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How do people deal with the long LSD trips 1
#26584786 - 04/07/20 07:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have done at most 5g magic mushroom and handled it good. However when it comes to LSD i find it much harder, simply cause it lasts so long. I took 150ug, and though it was much less intense than a 5g mushroom trip, it goes on and on and on ... and if you first get in a bad state on lsd you might just have to accept that you'll stay there for the next 8 hours or more. At the end of my trip I was tired of tripping (thats a first) and just wanted to sleep.
As far as the effect, I think I enjoy mushrooms more. LSD is a lot like mushrooms but without that primordial shamanic force/feeling, and as a result, on LSD i stay in my head, get funny ideas and so on. With mushrooms I have more interesting things to think about than thoughts.
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different strokes for different folks. i think it's easier to change your state of mind on acid than it is on mushrooms, and although it may feel like it's gonna last forever, most times anxiety usually goes away in a few minutes if you change your setting
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: dk-1] 3
#26585113 - 04/07/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Deal with it? Ideally you're loving it!
In my experience, bad thought loops on acid trips are quite easy to change by doing / looking at something else. Shrooms, on the other hand, control you more than you control them.
The long timespan really does make acid feel more like a trip. I remember being really stressed in college, so I took wednesday off and dropped acid + mesc in the morning. The timespan and time dilation made me feel like I'd gone on a long vacation filled with pure ecstacy. I felt refreshed and relaxed the next day in a way I wouldn't have had I only tripped for a few hours.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Korean Jesus] 1
#26585144 - 04/07/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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You go into the trip with the knowledge that you will be in another state for at least 6 to 8 hours. This long trip I find is easier to reflect when you come down, the ggradul return can lead to deep introspection at times. So.etimes it ca be a trial and sometimes it flows smoothly like water.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: SonicTitan] 2
#26585722 - 04/08/20 07:14 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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If I hit difficult water on the tail end of a heavy acid trip I just let it flow over me. There's things that acid brings up that you just have to face. When you're sober you can ignore the issues or the feelings or whatever is going on, but on the tail end of an acid trip you have to accept that shit or it will eat you alive. I even dive deeper into the feelings. If I'm feeling joy I'll listen to music, if I'm feeling artistic I'll make music or paint, if I'm feeling fear I'll watch scary movies, if I'm feeling mystic I'll meditate... whatever it is I'll fall into it.
Fighting it is always a mistake for me though. It's like swimming the opposite way in a flowing river. I cannot succeed, there is only angst and futility. Surrender is the only option.
A shower towards the end of the trip always cleans away all the sweat, muck and fatigue from the hardest part of the trip, then some fruit and yoghurt or something light like that gives some energy to ride out the last few hours before sleep is possible.
Learning to ride out LSD solo can be a bit of an art, especially when you start to push the doses a little higher. Surrender, forgive, release, accept. So many internal processes to deal with at times... then other times it's just smooth sailing in bliss, and I never want to leave that place.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Northerner]
#26585746 - 04/08/20 07:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Short trips are the main reason i don't do shrooms... LSD is the exact length i like.. i usually drop around 4pm and end up asleep around 1-3am.. it's a perfect saturday for me:)
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: icetech] 1
#26585904 - 04/08/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Lucky you're one of those ppl who can sleep the come down for me is just as long as the trip, and it's sleepless, 150ug usually has me awake and stimulated for 16 hours. I've tried to sleep and it doesn't work for me I plan to stay up. Higher doses increases that time, one time I couldn't sleep for 36 hrs off something like 400ug. I prefer mush myself for the duration alone, but you also can't beat the stimulation acid gives in the right situations and when you don't want to be tired in that case I microdose
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Eclipse3130] 3
#26585910 - 04/08/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said: Lucky you're one of those ppl who can sleep the come down for me is just as long as the trip, and it's sleepless, 150ug usually has me awake and stimulated for 16 hours
I do 300ug every saturday, so i'm kind of used to it trick is to trip early, don't wait til like 6pm or you ill be up til the next day... And honestly... after midnight.. have a wank or 2 and you will pass out.. it's god's sleeping pill
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: icetech] 1
#26586271 - 04/08/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I do 300ug every saturday, so i'm kind of used to it trick is to trip early, don't wait til like 6pm or you ill be up til the next day...
There was a time when I was tripping on L just about every Saturday. And yeah, even though I love a good night experience, these days I start my trips pretty early. Like 9 am early. If I dose, say at 4 pm, I'll be up til 5 or 6 am.
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Anyway OP, call me crazy, but for me the longer the better.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Niffla] 1
#26586356 - 04/08/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I concur, I love the length of a lsd trip.. there is beauty in knowing I am in for a long ride and I try and turn it into something to be grateful for. To me, the beauty of an acid experience is worth the consequence of being up until sunrise. Sometimes mushrooms feel like they throw me around and drop me right back to earth in an instant, leaving me somewhat frazzled and having difficulty interpreting the experience. The duration and stimulation of lsd often allows me to focus clearly for extended periods on things that are important to me. That can look like playing musical instruments, bonding with my cat, sitting and thinking about loved ones, reflecting on diet and bad habits i need to break, contemplating god and my gratitude for it, etc...
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: icetech] 1
#26586455 - 04/08/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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icetech said: have a wank or 2 and you will pass out.. it's god's sleeping pill 
If that really worked my life would be a lot easier.  Sometimes it really has to be a benzo for me, even though I like to avoid that because it kind of makes you forget the crazy experience you just had.
Like others said, LSD is ideally a day thing because its like 12h for me so I usually take it at around noon and then I'll be able to sleep at around 2am which is more or less a normal bedtime for me when I don't have to work. I just accept that this going to be an eternity, 12h with time dilation is just that. Instead of being couch locked with shrooms I find it more energizing/speedy and stable than the mushroom experience. I also feel that I have more control over the trip and that I can work things out for myself because there is so much time. Even the long residual stimulation can improve integration because there is a long time where you are in between states. So that does not have to be a bad thing in all cases.
It just gets a bit ugly when you have the trip in full swing with thought loops and all at 5 in the morning because this can be pretty exhausting.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Psicomb] 1
#26586457 - 04/08/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The length of the LSD experience isn't all that bad...part of it is come-up, part come down, so not all the span is trippin' yer face off.
My preference is to start around 2am after going to bed early. That way, you are rested at the start, and by the time the next evening rolls around, chances are excellent you will be able to sleep, at least some. As an added bonus (if you play your cards right) you'll see a sunrise so beautiful it will make you cry, plus a nice, mellow mindset at sunset.
Like someone said, wank it once or twice the next night and you WILL, in all likelihood, conk right out.
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I like Nature Boy's plan above.
Or take them early afternoon.
But the duration is another factor why I think shrooms are king
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#26586509 - 04/08/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I got all wax lyrical earlier compared to what other people thought the op wanted to hear about.. 
Skipping a night's sleep is fine by me. I normally drop early evening, trip through the night and plateau right up till midday the next day. Lazy afternoon in the garden or watching tv then early bed and wake up the following day feeling golden.
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#26586541 - 04/08/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well.. the other thing i love bout LSD.. is if i am up til 5-6am. i sleep for 3 hours and wake up feeling like fucking rick flair WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO just amazing with a ton of energy 
BTW.. first time i took shrooms it was like 4pm... by 8pm i was sober and pissed off.. wtf is that shit.. 4 hours.. paalleease
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: icetech]
#26586571 - 04/08/20 02:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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For me i just pre plan my tripp especially if im doing a solo tripp. I have weed ready an snacks as well. I try to be as organized as possible that really helps when your tripp sets in.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Nature Boy] 1
#26586630 - 04/08/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said: My preference is to start around 2am after going to bed early. That way, you are rested at the start, and by the time the next evening rolls around, chances are excellent you will be able to sleep, at least some. As an added bonus (if you play your cards right) you'll see a sunrise so beautiful it will make you cry, plus a nice, mellow mindset at sunset.
That sounds ideal, however you need to go to bed at like 8pm to get a decent amount of sleep in before the trip. Whatever part of the population can pull that off, I am not part of it.
Did anyone trip for breakfast here before? I had a surprisingly good time with mushroom chocolate and some decaf (to not fuel my anxiety) and then I cuddled back into bed with headphones. The whole thing was over at around 1pm with a nice but functional afterglow.
Anyways another thing for the long distance with LSD is preparing food and drink beforehand. I might feel bad somewhere in the 8-12h of tripping without knowing why. The reason is often that I have not eaten drunk anything in a long time. This can manifest as a headache or bad mood or both.
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I often take lsd for breakfast. Just like yesterday after getting up at 10 o'clock I took a 150mics 1p microdot, with no food before, just some coffee. Hit me pretty hard and made my day. Was able to sleep arund midnight.
Usually I'm awake for 14 to 16 hours after dosing. Tripping in the evening makes me beeing up all night, totally unable to sleep.
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But that's the best part man! 
Mushrooms if you're having a bad trip can feel like 12 hours anyway. But I get it, I've sometimes been tripping on a lysergamide and wanting it to end and it just takes forever. I get where you're coming from there. But the length is still one of my favorite parts of LSD.
One way you might be able to deal with it is by trying to take control of the trip and force it in a different direction, by listening to some music or doing something engaging that takes you out of whatever bad place you were in. Maybe move yourself physically to another room and try to do something completely different. LSD and the lysergamides in general are much more controllable than mushrooms, and I think if you're having a bad experience it might be possible to bend it to a good experience if you sufficiently alter your environment and mindset.
So put on some different music, do something different, play a video game, watch a movie, maybe even something you wouldn't normally play or listen to or watch. Try different things and see if you can't change it if you're having a bad time.
I actually find bad trips on lysergamides to be a bit more manageable than mushrooms also partially because of the stimulant effect. Time goes faster rather than slowing down (generally).
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: nooneman] 1
#26586938 - 04/08/20 05:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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My preference is to start around 2am after going to bed early. That way, you are rested at the start, and by the time the next evening rolls around, chances are excellent you will be able to sleep, at least some. As an added bonus (if you play your cards right) you'll see a sunrise so beautiful it will make you cry, plus a nice, mellow mindset at sunset.
Man I need to try this. Would love to see a sunrise at or near the peak.
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Anyways another thing for the long distance with LSD is preparing food and drink beforehand. I might feel bad somewhere in the 8-12h of tripping without knowing why. The reason is often that I have not eaten drunk anything in a long time. This can manifest as a headache or bad mood or both.
Oh yeah absolutely. Time will fly and before you know it you can be 8 hours into a trip with no food or even water.
One of my favorite things to do now during my trips is the food. Yes the food. I always stock the fridge with some really good food. Real food and no junk food either. Cooking an awesome meal while I'm drinking a beer and listening to some music, with the smell of the food wafting out of the kitchen -- I love it. And yes it will make you feel worlds better, too. It gives you much needed energy so you're not drained.
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One way you might be able to deal with it is by trying to take control of the trip and force it in a different direction, by listening to some music or doing something engaging that takes you out of whatever bad place you were in. Maybe move yourself physically to another room and try to do something completely different. LSD and the lysergamides in general are much more controllable than mushrooms, and I think if you're having a bad experience it might be possible to bend it to a good experience if you sufficiently alter your environment and mindset.
So put on some different music, do something different, play a video game, watch a movie, maybe even something you wouldn't normally play or listen to or watch. Try different things
This is really good advice. Advice I need to utilize more. Just doing something different. Exploring completely new things on an acid trip can be so epic. I tend to always stick with the same things, things I'm very comfortable with, but doing something totally different can swing an entire trip and be so much fun.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Niffla] 1
#26587558 - 04/08/20 10:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I do 300ug every saturday, so i'm kind of used to it trick is to trip early, don't wait til like 6pm or you ill be up til the next day...
There was a time when I was tripping on L just about every Saturday. And yeah, even though I love a good night experience, these days I start my trips pretty early. Like 9 am early. If I dose, say at 4 pm, I'll be up til 5 or 6 am.
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Thats the best way in my opinion. Dose right when u wake up, that way u get proper sleep at night. If u stay up all day THEN drop Acid, thats prettu tough cauze u will be up for another 12 hours. Definitely not recommended.
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Ha, in high school my friends and I would sometimes watch the clock and everybody doses at the same moment, say 7:30am. But instead of meeting up to walk to school we met up and walked to a local private golf course for a day of a acoustic guitars and frisbee and laughs. One morning I ate my blotter acid at the proper time while chatting with my parents and sibs at breakfast and my blob of paper popped out of my mouth, right to the center of the table. Everybody stopped talking, they were looking at it. I pick it up, pop it back into my mouth and said, "Sorry. Chicklet."
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The very worst trips were reckless college. Dosing early evening then drunk as fuck till 3 am then the hangover on acid. "Please God let this be over." till the next afternoon. Really stupid.
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#26587717 - 04/09/20 12:05 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know the feel. Ive tried to sleep on the second-half of an Acid trip. Might as well not even try, u cant sleep (unless u take a benzo or something).
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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If I'm tired and relaxed I can sleep while tripping, then wake up still tripping. Especially if it's cold and I can snuggle in blankets and just fall into the fractals and lose myself. Sleeping on acid is so nice when I've done it.
I know the tense neck and and wired awake second half feeling as well too though. I don't even bother trying then.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: LittleBoard] 1
#26588020 - 04/09/20 05:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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LittleBoard said: That sounds ideal, however you need to go to bed at like 8pm to get a decent amount of sleep in before the trip. Whatever part of the population can pull that off, I am not part of it.
I get that. Read the first paragraph of this post to see how! Spoiler alert: Ya gotta travel west! (LOL!) Epic trip. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26051669#26051669
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Northerner]
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I will say, sometimes I can sleep on Acid, but its a weird type of sleep. My teeth chatter and i feel awake even thou im "sleeping" sorta like when u try to sleep but dont need to.
But typically, i cant sleep on an Acid trip. It has to be around the 14 hr mark (with a full dose) to get some actual sleep, at least in my experience.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#26591390 - 04/10/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Lsd is so fun
Plan accordingly
No sleep til 12 hours after ingested
Night tripping can be great. Start around 6pm
Day trips are dope. Ride my bike all over and watch the birds, trees, clouds, water, sun
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With the amount of mushrooms I ingest when I do them, I cannot be around a bad environment. The worst movie I've ever seen when I was tripping nuts off some mushrooms was Into the Void. When the girl towards the end was screaming and kept saying the same thing over and over. I'm pretty sure she was saying something about killing herself LOL. Fucking crazy movie!!!
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Lsd on the other hand is a long trip, but it's amazing in its own way also. I just love the perfect geometrical shapes and patterns it gives you every single time. When I move my hands around, I can make perfect shapes with them. Haha.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Cojack69]
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Cojack69 said: With the amount of mushrooms I ingest when I do them, I cannot be around a bad environment. The worst movie I've ever seen when I was tripping nuts off some mushrooms was Into the Void. When the girl towards the end was screaming and kept saying the same thing over and over. I'm pretty sure she was saying something about killing herself LOL. Fucking crazy movie!!!
You mean Enter the Void?
If we're talking about the same film, yes, it's disturbing. Visually it's out of this world but it's a nightmarish film to trip to. I know...I've done it. I actually have the blu-ray disc in my closet. Last time I watched it tripping I told myself to never go down that rabbit hole again.
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One time i was tripping on mushrooms and my roomate came home to ruin it and insisted on watching Split.
I just went with it instead of leaving.
I could feel every single emotion the captives felt
I gotta check that void movie out. Sober though
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Enkidu] 1
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Yes, I was actually voice texting and not paying attention. It's Enter the Void. That movie is fucking nuts!!!!
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Cojack69]
#26591832 - 04/10/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Speaking of rabbit holes, Alice in Wonderland is like the best movie ever to watch. I love the new one with Johnny Depp. They also have a Alice through the looking glass.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Cojack69] 1
#26591858 - 04/10/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cojack69 said: Speaking of rabbit holes, Alice in Wonderland is like the best movie ever to watch. I love the new one with Johnny Depp. They also have a Alice through the looking glass.
I still haven't seen that. I need to put that on the trip list.
Here's a few of my must watch at least once tripping recommendations:
Coraline Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas Tree of Life The Boxtrolls
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Cojack69]
#26592818 - 04/11/20 06:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cojack69 said: Lsd on the other hand is a long trip, but it's amazing in its own way also. I just love the perfect geometrical shapes and patterns it gives you every single time. When I move my hands around, I can make perfect shapes with them. Haha.
I wish i could still experience that.. i have only had visuals like 3 times over the years
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Niffla]
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Cojack69 said: Speaking of rabbit holes, Alice in Wonderland is like the best movie ever to watch. I love the new one with Johnny Depp. They also have a Alice through the looking glass.
I still haven't seen that. I need to put that on the trip list.
Here's a few of my must watch at least once tripping recommendations:
Coraline Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas Tree of Life The Boxtrolls
No way... Watch Airplane on acid.. i have seen that movie at least 100 times since i was a kid, but a few months ago on acid i thought i was going to die from laughing.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Cojack69] 1
#26592845 - 04/11/20 07:00 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cojack69 said: Speaking of rabbit holes, Alice in Wonderland is like the best movie ever to watch. I love the new one with Johnny Depp. They also have a Alice through the looking glass.
Love that movie, tripping or not. The gal in that movie looks exactly like a nurse I lived with for three years back in 1979 - 1982. The resemblance is astounding. She loved to get high and *&^%. Good times.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Niffla] 1
#26592935 - 04/11/20 07:59 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cojack69 said: With the amount of mushrooms I ingest when I do them, I cannot be around a bad environment. The worst movie I've ever seen when I was tripping nuts off some mushrooms was Into the Void. When the girl towards the end was screaming and kept saying the same thing over and over. I'm pretty sure she was saying something about killing herself LOL. Fucking crazy movie!!!
You mean Enter the Void?
If we're talking about the same film, yes, it's disturbing. Visually it's out of this world but it's a nightmarish film to trip to. I know...I've done it. I actually have the blu-ray disc in my closet. Last time I watched it tripping I told myself to never go down that rabbit hole again.
I watched that first time on acid too, blew my mind. Towards the end there I had to stop it and walk away several times. So hectic.
Recently I watched Apocalypto for the first time on acid as well. Also blew my mind. Hectic, so hectic, but so totally worth it as well. Loved it, and despite being very intense only had to stop it once. Highly recommended tripping film, for those who can handle a bit of dark.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Northerner] 1
#26592961 - 04/11/20 08:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've always dealt well with my trips by having tons weed on stand-by. It's to the point where I'm afraid to trip without having, any just in case!
And I can agree with the consensus that mushrooms definitely put you in a mindset more susceptible to negative energy... or whatever you'd call it.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Chaleq]
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3pm comin.. .300ug again this weekend:) (i really need to find a source soon)
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: icetech]
#26593337 - 04/11/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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you would probably like 1cp, if you can't find your usual tabs.
anyway, this global lockdown satisfies most of my problems about time, tho it creates a few new ones.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: redgreenvines]
#26594998 - 04/12/20 03:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I can't deal with it, I've tried LSD a couple times alone at home. Took the tabs at 18:00 as if I was taking mushrooms without quite realizing there is actually way more than 12 hours ahead before I have any chance of falling asleep. So there I sat at 9am listening to Alan Watts and stuff, not a bad trip by any means but never again. That's too long and I prefer the feeling of mushrooms anyway.
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Turvenuija said: I can't deal with it, I've tried LSD a couple times alone at home. Took the tabs at 18:00 as if I was taking mushrooms without quite realizing there is actually way more than 12 hours ahead before I have any chance of falling asleep. So there I sat at 9am listening to Alan Watts and stuff, not a bad trip by any means but never again. That's too long and I prefer the feeling of mushrooms anyway.
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Turvenuija said: I can't deal with it, I've tried LSD a couple times alone at home. Took the tabs at 18:00 as if I was taking mushrooms without quite realizing there is actually way more than 12 hours ahead before I have any chance of falling asleep. So there I sat at 9am listening to Alan Watts and stuff, not a bad trip by any means but never again. That's too long and I prefer the feeling of mushrooms anyway.
Did you not read the warnings on the label man? 
Should probably try dosing on sunrise rather.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Northerner]
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Last few hours are usually pretty easy once the peak has passed and effects begin to taper. Compared to where you just were two hours ago (the peak), it usually feels like it just aint no thang sailin' back to baseline
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: chutney] 2
#26596101 - 04/12/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's when you break out the changa.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Northerner]
#26598099 - 04/13/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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icetech said: Well send me whatever you have left over 
Ate them all!
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Should probably try dosing on sunrise rather.
Honestly at the time I thought I was some kind of mushroom eating god (nope ) and I assumed LSD wouldn't be a problem. I knew it lasts longer, I just did what I always do because I'm a dummy.
The trips themselves were fine so if I decide to try again, I'll dose in the afternoon I think because I do like to go to sleep as soon as I can.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Turvenuija]
#26598213 - 04/13/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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icetech said: Well send me whatever you have left over 
Ate them all!
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Should probably try dosing on sunrise rather.
Honestly at the time I thought I was some kind of mushroom eating god (nope ) and I assumed LSD wouldn't be a problem. I knew it lasts longer, I just did what I always do because I'm a dummy.
The trips themselves were fine so if I decide to try again, I'll dose in the afternoon I think because I do like to go to sleep as soon as I can.
Yeah, i have a buddy that doses at like 1pm and goes to bed around midnight.. works fine
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I fucking love lsd
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Psicomb]
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: icetech]
#26601937 - 04/15/20 02:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just go on a long bike ride.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: malfenderson]
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I mountain bike 4-6 nights a week during summer... and road bike when the trails are too bad for mountain biking, it's not like we just sit around doing acid.
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Haven't had that problem yet unfortunately haha. I seem to flush drugs out of my system quick (Also hard headed) and im always disappointed with the length of any trip
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: MychaelJackson] 1
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I decided to try LSD again, I took three 100ug tabs (so let's assume in reality it was more like 250ug max) at 3pm. One hour in I barely felt anything and for a moment I thought I got screwed over but eventually it kicked in pretty hard. It didn't go very well because unlike with mushrooms where visions, sensations and thoughts flow from one to the next smoothly and without your own input, on LSD I couldn't go very deep at all. I had strong visuals and a heavy body high but eyes closed nothing special happened.
If the trip is a big old water slide or something, I never stepped off the starting pad. I eventually gave up and started watching movies, that was alright. I still have three tabs which I'll take in 3-4 weeks. Am I doing something wrong if I try to trip as if I was taking mushrooms, or perhaps my set was off? Trying to fall into a sort of trance and sink down didn't work, I guess you need to steer the experience more on LSD?
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Lysergamides are not tryptamines. They do not induce visions. Next time try listening to or making music, painting a picture, walking in the forest, even tripping with a close friend. Do something, be in the moment, go with your impulses. There is a whole range of experience to be had with lsd in its fractal swarm, the most interesting and euphoric experiences you are ever likely to encounter, but it won't be found behind your eyelids.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Northerner] 1
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loving the term fractal swarm.
I think visions come if they come no matter what drug, and it is not fair to say lysergamides won't help induce them.
the stimulant effects may prevent dreamlike episodes unless you purposedly close your eyes and get into some shamanic journey thing.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: InfraredRick]
#26628943 - 04/26/20 06:07 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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InfraredRick said: The very worst trips were reckless college. Dosing early evening then drunk as fuck till 3 am then the hangover on acid. "Please God let this be over." till the next afternoon. Really stupid.
A couple times in college i went to a day time keg party, got drunk, came home and dropped acid, then fell asleep to wake a short time later tripping. Weird experience for sure cause you don't know you are triping at first and then you are confronted by it and memories of drunkenly taking acid flood in. Don't recommend this because of the confusion and hangover.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: redgreenvines]
#26628947 - 04/26/20 06:09 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Northerner said: Lysergamides are not tryptamines. They do not induce visions. Next time try listening to or making music, painting a picture, walking in the forest, even tripping with a close friend. Do something, be in the moment, go with your impulses. There is a whole range of experience to be had with lsd in its fractal swarm, the most interesting and euphoric experiences you are ever likely to encounter, but it won't be found behind your eyelids.
I have been very ignorant about LSD then. I did my homework when I got into mushrooms but I must have gotten overconfident and lazy when jumping into LSD, thinking that tripping on it works the same just because they seem similar in my mind. I'll plan some actual activities to try for next time, sounds exciting.
I almost always dive into the visions when eating mushrooms so actually doing something different sounds good to me, going outside is impossible though. I don't want neighbors or anyone getting wind of my weird hobbies. A summer cottage retreat with mushrooms or LSD would be amazing though.
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I think visions come if they come no matter what drug, and it is not fair to say lysergamides won't help induce them.
the stimulant effects may prevent dreamlike episodes unless you purposedly close your eyes and get into some shamanic journey thing.
That dreamlike state is what I love about mushrooms, I guess LSD isn't optimal for that kind of thing.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: redgreenvines]
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Interesting. 
I've never had a vision from lsd. I've had the fractal tracers materialize into solid objects on high doses, but that's about it. One time I had the two pillars materialize in my living area. Had a silver rainbow texture to them. Very vivid, blew me away.
Tryptamines on the other hand have taken me to distant worlds and introduced me to sentient beings that I never knew before.
I thought that was kinda normal, if such a things can ever be classed as normal.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Northerner]
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I saw faces and various objects behind closed eyelids, I guess they count as visions but they didn't stick around and they were a far cry from mushroom visions that take you to other worlds like you said. Things materializing around you with open eyes always gets me, that happened a little bit on LSD too and those were fun to look at.
I think I prefer the open eye visual effects of LSD over mushroom visuals, they're very erratic and fun.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Turvenuija]
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Indeed, very bright and colourful open eye visuals.
Plants are amazing on LSD as well, they all appear to be growing. Even the texture of the melamine on the bench tops can be interesting. One time I was sat at my bench tripping and I noticed all these ants had started to walk around in circles. After looking at them for a while and trying to figure out why I squashed one with my finger. It was just a bit of dirt. lol. Clearly wasn't moving at all.
If you like DMT, you should smoke changa on the tail end of LSD. As said by the marvelous Dr Seuss "Oh the places you'll go, the things you'll see". It's one hell of a combination that I highly recommend. Complete transportation to other worlds with the most curious happenings.
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Northerner said: Lysergamides are not tryptamines. They do not induce visions.
I've had it go both ways. I would say in my personal experience, you are correct ~70% of the time. However (and I have no idea what influences the outcome) I absolutely have had visionary experiences on high(er) doses of LSD. Last June in Sedona comes to mind. I passed THROUGH the fractal swarm (the glyphs) and entered a VERY visionary state.
The visionary state IS there to be had within the mind/molecule interaction. You just have to stumble upon the set of conditions, dose, or (perhaps long lay-off of LSD) that leads you there. I offer this trip report (for those who have not read it) as an example. I'm sure you can find other members who have similar reports/experiences.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26051669#26051669
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Nature Boy]
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I am under the impression that Alex Grey's art was inspired a lot by LSD in particular, so I think it can definitely produce visions based on this. I have no personal experience really other than a Jester or trickster figure appearing on AL-LAD once.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Nature Boy]
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That's a great report. I've been taking lsd for a very long time and not had anything that compares with that. Would be so super stoked if that did happen. Maybe if I lie down and relax on the come up I could jump in that pool too.
Thanks a bunch for sharing it.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Northerner]
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I tend to get visions from LSD. Always have but at the end of the day, it’s the effect on the mind that draws me in. The introspection & ability to imprint/change perspective & therefore is what I really love about LSD. But it’s plenty deep for me, and full of visions when I eat 200+ mics.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Northerner]
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Plants are amazing on LSD as well, they all appear to be growing.
Yeah! 
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If you like DMT, you should smoke changa on the tail end of LSD.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Northerner]
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Northerner said: That's a great report. I've been taking lsd for a very long time and not had anything that compares with that. Would be so super stoked if that did happen. Maybe if I lie down and relax on the come up I could jump in that pool too.
Thanks a bunch for sharing it.
 I have been meaning to tell you that I adore the animation in your avatar these days.
just had some hash while cleaning my old vape pipe thing, to test if it worked properly... anyway I keep imagining I am on a quarter hit of acid, which I am not, ironically, but I must say that visionary stuff does ordinarily happen with this, I mean with lsd, but it is usually more like your avatar than like an allegorical waking dream. (which I feel on the cusp of ATM but hash.vape.test not acid)
with mushrooms I feel nearly exactly as I do on lsd, except maybe better fed.
to immerse into an allegorical state, one needs to invoke something more narcotic (or just let yourself doze which is natural narc-ing)
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: redgreenvines]
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Got lucky last night and dropped around 4:30 and still made it to sleep by 3am great night! I have some enhanced leaf i made but haven't tried yet.. was going to last night but couldn't bother to get out of bed to get it
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: redgreenvines]
#26630820 - 04/26/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm amazed at so many people having visionary experiences with LSD. I seriously did not know that was possible. Thanks everyone for letting me know. I don't even know how I haven't heard of this before.
When I first did mushrooms it was much like LSD for a very long time. Then after I had done DMT for some time the effect of mushrooms became far more pronounced and visionary. I remember the first time I saw entities on mushrooms. I closed eyes just for a moment because of something else and instantly saw the matrix grid and the entities peering at me. It scared me for a moment because I wasn't expecting it, then I closed my eyes and just went with it. Very vivid and very crisp but no real interaction. Just more like DMT movie. Typical multi eyed humanoid entities and sheets of light and colour that are made of various fractals and geometry, depending what you focus on.
DMT itself, especially combined with harmalas, is the benchmark for visionary experiences for me. I don't really call some great visuals with some recognisable features a vision.
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 I have been meaning to tell you that I adore the animation in your avatar these days.
just had some hash while cleaning my old vape pipe thing, to test if it worked properly... anyway I keep imagining I am on a quarter hit of acid, which I am not, ironically, but I must say that visionary stuff does ordinarily happen with this, I mean with lsd, but it is usually more like your avatar than like an allegorical waking dream. (which I feel on the cusp of ATM but hash.vape.test not acid)
with mushrooms I feel nearly exactly as I do on lsd, except maybe better fed.
to immerse into an allegorical state, one needs to invoke something more narcotic (or just let yourself doze which is natural narc-ing)
Thanks RGV. I mucked around for ages to get the avatar just so. It's not my work originally though.
That's very close to what I see on LSD on solid objects, particularly as the dose steps up. Everything just fluxes, melts and swarms. Off the edge of objects fractals and tracers will fly off into the air and sometimes start making their own patterns as well. Depends how deep in the hole I am. 250ug puts me well and truly in that place. I accidentally dosed very high earlier this year and the world was insane to look at. There was no such thing as a solid object, everything was liquid and being pulled at by invisible forces. Unfortunately I blacked out after a few hours, I didn't get to see if there was anything behind my eyelids. I suspect it would just have been spectacular fractals, grids and tracers rather than visions. ie: not an allegorical waking dream. (great term, I'm gonna keep that one)
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: redgreenvines]
#26630903 - 04/26/20 10:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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to immerse into an allegorical state, one needs to invoke something more narcotic (or just let yourself doze which is natural narc-ing)
^^^^^ This. Opiated hash, which I have not seen since the mid 1970's was the most dreamy head I EVER had. Had two or three grams of it back in the day. OMG - So good!!!!
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Nature Boy]
#26631482 - 04/27/20 06:15 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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people have been selling gold seal and mazar sharif hash in the toronto area which is lovely and smells divine, though I doubt if it is actually opiated.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: redgreenvines]
#26633377 - 04/28/20 12:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Somewhere back circa 1973 or '74 I had legit opiated hash. A person or two had enough that they would eat it. I never had more then two, maybe three grams. It was here, then gone. Probably a good thing, because I liked it. A lot.
45 years later and I still think about it. If I could get an ounce or two today I probably would. It was like visiting Candyland when you closed your eyes. Dreamy, creamy, imaginings. I maintain it was the best head I ever had. There's plenty of drugs I've never done, so I don't know if I'd like them better, but short of a genuine, addictive narcotic - which I have never, ever done - I'd say it was probably closest in effects.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: Nature Boy]
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Nature Boy said: Somewhere back circa 1973 or '74 I had legit opiated hash. A person or two had enough that they would eat it. I never had more then two, maybe three grams. It was here, then gone. Probably a good thing, because I liked it. A lot.
45 years later and I still think about it. If I could get an ounce or two today I probably would. It was like visiting Candyland when you closed your eyes. Dreamy, creamy, imaginings. I maintain it was the best head I ever had. There's plenty of drugs I've never done, so I don't know if I'd like them better, but short of a genuine, addictive narcotic - which I have never, ever done - I'd say it was probably closest in effects.
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Re: How do people deal with the long LSD trips [Re: The Blind Ass] 1
#26633443 - 04/28/20 02:11 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I never pictured that goat as a nodding dope heap before.
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