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I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan.
    #26583915 - 04/07/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hey guys, I've grown some Blue oysters in the past, about 3-4 years ago, and just stopped doing it. I'm wanting to get back into it so I inoculated some WBS with pink, blue, golden, and king syringes that were a year or two old (hopefully they are still good).


I ordered some things on amazon and plan on setting up a little fruiting chamber but I need some feedback.

I purchased the following:
4 Inch 150 CFM Duct Inline Fan Blower
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71UBx3Yu6GL._AC_SL1417_.jpg

I plan on hooking that blower up to piping, piping it to a 5 gallon bucket with a sealed lid that contains water and this mister:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/612WvSVFWFL._AC_SL1000_.jpg

Then I plan on piping that into this little grow chamber:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71MdRHJSPNL._AC_SL1364_.jpg

The air and humidity will be controlled by a humidity controller so that I can control how humid it is inside of the chamber.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/716nJPhxpLL._AC_SL1500_.jpg


My questions are, how much FAE does a chamber like this need?

Should I keep the blower going after the mister turns off or should there always be humidity with the fresh air coming in?

Do I have to worry about spores with the positive pressure I'm creating?

How can I cool my chamber? I'm putting it in a room that is warm, it's by my furnace, I would guess the room hovers around 80-85 degrees but wont know until I get my thermometer.

Any suggestions you would make to make me more successful?


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: cyclones]
    #26584139 - 04/07/20 02:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yes always worry about spores with oysters. Unless your chamber is airtight except for the outlet (which needs to be outdoors) youre going to get spores in the area around your chamber.

I would put a pre filter on your intake fan and definitely run it several times per hour even without the fogger running.

if you want to cool your chamber, cool the air in the room where the intake is drawn from. 80-85 is too warm for kings and i think blues like colder air as well but i could be wrong.

also i think that six disc fogger is a bit overkill for such a small grow tent. you could get away with a single disc.



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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: deadmandave]
    #26585143 - 04/07/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Don't blow it into the chamber. Suck it out. Leave it on 24/7. And for the fogger bucket don't put any fan on it as the inline fan you got pulling exhaust will pull just fine through the fogger bucket. Will work great for oysters and such FAE needs.


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: seagu]
    #26585310 - 04/08/20 12:02 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, I have to jump in on this one.

The above statement is correct pull the air out of the chamber. But don't leave it on 24/7 that is a small chamber and pulling 150cfm through it you will not keep any humidity in the chamber. The fan is really too big for that chamber.

I would set it up as a passive system. Meaning as air is pulled out through a bottom hole fresh air is sucked in through a top hole in the opposite corner. I used a  backdraft damper (flapper) to close the chamber when the fan was not on. You will need a fan to push humidity from the bucket to the chamber. You will need 3 to 6 air exchanges an hour for oysters so buy a cycle timer I used this one...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G6O28NA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Each time the exhaust fan comes on should be very short a few seconds with that strong of a fan. You did not give a link to the chamber so I can not tell you how long to start with because I don't know the size of the chamber.

Backdraft damper. opens when the fan is on and closes when the fan shuts off...

https://www.amazon.com/Dundas-Jafine-DB4ZW-Dryer-Blocker/dp/B000DZDPPE/ref=sr_1_44?crid=1TW49WOXEMSZU&dchild=1&keywords=backdraft+damper+4+inch&qid=1586325520&sprefix=back+draft+damper%2Caps%2C161&sr=8-44



For the humidity bucket, you need an IP68 fan. IP68 is the water and dust rating on the fan. I used this one for a year then I switched to a high-pressure mist system. It is a good fan and cheap for the IP68 rating...

https://www.amazon.com/Protechnic-120mm-airflow-compared-others/dp/B00MP2M9YQ

For future reference that pond fogger you bought more than likely will not last long. In the future look for one that does not have a led light on it. They tend to leak at the light and cause problems.


Edited by SHROOMSISAY01 (04/08/20 12:41 AM)


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26585659 - 04/08/20 06:35 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That grow chamber, there is a pic in a link above you missed it, is about the same size I was using with my shelf unit I had setup. Its the same one a lot of people use. Now I didn't check if he has a speed controller on his fan like I do, but my CFM  is either 156 or 195 or something around there. And I definitely needed it on 24/7 on low. OK I just scrolled up and he does have a speed controller like I do. So he will need to put it on low or even medium( yea I had needed to make it stronger for my Lion's Mane) as he dials everything in. With an inkbird humidity controller on his humidi-bucket he will be able to easily keep that chamber at humidity with np. And I see he has one listed. For that sized chamber a 3 disc fogger would work just fine.

This is way easier than trying to fiddle with air exchanges and a dampener, a timer, etc.. And there is no way when I was growing LM that it would have tolerated anything but a constant exhaust. The LM demanded much higher FAE than blue oysters. And so I say from experience the spec sheets are only a starting point - MOAR FAE....

You need to exhaust the spores anyways. You don't want them blown into your room :eek: from leaks and cracks in the grow chamber. So the inline fan on the exhaust out the window or wherever to outside, pulling through the chamber, which pulls FAE in through the humidi-bucket and thus constantly over water helping to keep a constant humidity in the chamber even when the fogger is not fogging. Is super simple. And is loosely based on the old tek of 2 humidifiers. 1 for constant low humidity and the ultrasonic for the blast to raise the RH roof in da house. But simpler and with less moving parts. Make the intake pipes total size on the humidi-bucket slightly smaller than the 4 inch exhaust and you will have a nice suction on your grow chamber that will help seal any leaks and make sure the spores go out the house. And if for some reason you don't have a perfect air tight seal on your chamber all you need to do is cut some cheapo plastic tarp strips and let the air suction do all the work.


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: seagu]
    #26586018 - 04/08/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, I stand corrected you have about 200 cubic feet in that chamber. I didn't want to look up the size of the chamber. That's why an actual link is better than a picture. I don't see a problem with seagu's setup. It is actually easier I must admit. I was using a 1 disk pond fogger now that I think about it so I had to cycle on and off my fan. It has been a long time since I ran such a small set up.

Good job seagu!! I would have had him going down the wrong path. The lesson here is... Do the math and avoid problems.


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: seagu]
    #26586250 - 04/08/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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That grow chamber, there is a pic in a link above you missed it, is about the same size I was using with my shelf unit I had setup. Its the same one a lot of people use. Now I didn't check if he has a speed controller on his fan like I do, but my CFM  is either 156 or 195 or something around there. And I definitely needed it on 24/7 on low. OK I just scrolled up and he does have a speed controller like I do. So he will need to put it on low or even medium( yea I had needed to make it stronger for my Lion's Mane) as he dials everything in. With an inkbird humidity controller on his humidi-bucket he will be able to easily keep that chamber at humidity with np. And I see he has one listed. For that sized chamber a 3 disc fogger would work just fine.

This is way easier than trying to fiddle with air exchanges and a dampener, a timer, etc.. And there is no way when I was growing LM that it would have tolerated anything but a constant exhaust. The LM demanded much higher FAE than blue oysters. And so I say from experience the spec sheets are only a starting point - MOAR FAE....

You need to exhaust the spores anyways. You don't want them blown into your room :eek: from leaks and cracks in the grow chamber. So the inline fan on the exhaust out the window or wherever to outside, pulling through the chamber, which pulls FAE in through the humidi-bucket and thus constantly over water helping to keep a constant humidity in the chamber even when the fogger is not fogging. Is super simple. And is loosely based on the old tek of 2 humidifiers. 1 for constant low humidity and the ultrasonic for the blast to raise the RH roof in da house. But simpler and with less moving parts. Make the intake pipes total size on the humidi-bucket slightly smaller than the 4 inch exhaust and you will have a nice suction on your grow chamber that will help seal any leaks and make sure the spores go out the house. And if for some reason you don't have a perfect air tight seal on your chamber all you need to do is cut some cheapo plastic tarp strips and let the air suction do all the work.




Awesome, sounds like a good plan, thanks for the help. I unfortunately don't have access to the outside through my room, is there a way to solve for this so that I don't end up with spore lung cancer?


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: cyclones]
    #26586296 - 04/08/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I would try and make a water trap. Run the duct after your exhaust fan into a 5-gallon bucket and fill the bucket with water. Make the section going into the water easy to remove. You will probably have to clean it often. This will also make your exhaust fan less effective. How do you not have a window in the room?

The water should trap any spores.



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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26586304 - 04/08/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I would try and make a water trap. Run the duct after your exhaust fan into a 5-gallon bucket and fill the bucket with water. Make the section going into the water easy to remove. You will probably have to clean it often.

The water should trap any spores.






Ok that seems like a good suggestion, I was wondering if that would solve that issue. I don't need spores in my room or lungs. Thanks for the help! Now I need to solve for the temps of the room. Maybe a small portable AC or something.


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: cyclones]
    #26586314 - 04/08/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

How will you put an AC in the room without a window? You are better off growing the proper mushroom. I grow my 3015 in the 90'S sometimes because I don't have a temp controlled room. You can also grow yellow or pink oysters. Blue Oyster is a cold-weather mushroom so it will be much harder to grow in higher temps.


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26586360 - 04/08/20 01:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I have Amycel 3015 oyster and Aloha Pink oyster if you are interested PM me. I may have Aloha yellow also.


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26586388 - 04/08/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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How will you put an AC in the room without a window? You are better off growing the proper mushroom. I grow my 3015 in the 90'S sometimes because I don't have a temp controlled room. You can also grow yellow or pink oysters. Blue Oyster is a cold-weather mushroom so it will be much harder to grow in higher temps.




Ah shit, yeah I didn't think of the exhaust...... I'll see what the temp of the room is.


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26586395 - 04/08/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I have Amycel 3015 oyster and Aloha Pink oyster if you are interested PM me. I may have Aloha yellow also.





Unfortunately I've already inoculated a bunch of grain lol



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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: cyclones]
    #26586408 - 04/08/20 01:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You may have missed my last post. I have what you need to be growing in high temps. I actually sent seagu some 3015 and some pink and also some sporeless oyster that he just received yesterday.

You can try growing the blue that you have already inoculated. I just don't think it's going to go very well. It's best to get the right mushroom going.


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26586415 - 04/08/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I would stick the blue grain in the refrigerator and wait for the temps to drop. But that's just me


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: cyclones]
    #26586469 - 04/08/20 01:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

seagu said:
That grow chamber, there is a pic in a link above you missed it, is about the same size I was using with my shelf unit I had setup. Its the same one a lot of people use. Now I didn't check if he has a speed controller on his fan like I do, but my CFM  is either 156 or 195 or something around there. And I definitely needed it on 24/7 on low. OK I just scrolled up and he does have a speed controller like I do. So he will need to put it on low or even medium( yea I had needed to make it stronger for my Lion's Mane) as he dials everything in. With an inkbird humidity controller on his humidi-bucket he will be able to easily keep that chamber at humidity with np. And I see he has one listed. For that sized chamber a 3 disc fogger would work just fine.

This is way easier than trying to fiddle with air exchanges and a dampener, a timer, etc.. And there is no way when I was growing LM that it would have tolerated anything but a constant exhaust. The LM demanded much higher FAE than blue oysters. And so I say from experience the spec sheets are only a starting point - MOAR FAE....

You need to exhaust the spores anyways. You don't want them blown into your room :eek: from leaks and cracks in the grow chamber. So the inline fan on the exhaust out the window or wherever to outside, pulling through the chamber, which pulls FAE in through the humidi-bucket and thus constantly over water helping to keep a constant humidity in the chamber even when the fogger is not fogging. Is super simple. And is loosely based on the old tek of 2 humidifiers. 1 for constant low humidity and the ultrasonic for the blast to raise the RH roof in da house. But simpler and with less moving parts. Make the intake pipes total size on the humidi-bucket slightly smaller than the 4 inch exhaust and you will have a nice suction on your grow chamber that will help seal any leaks and make sure the spores go out the house. And if for some reason you don't have a perfect air tight seal on your chamber all you need to do is cut some cheapo plastic tarp strips and let the air suction do all the work.




Awesome, sounds like a good plan, thanks for the help. I unfortunately don't have access to the outside through my room, is there a way to solve for this so that I don't end up with spore lung cancer?





Its allergies not cancer. And a water trap like SHROOMSISAY01 is saying or a filter. But those filters will fill and its an added cost that I don't think anyone really makes. You could run a flexible hose to the outside?

So yea once you calibrate and then set the RH on the inkbird all you have to do is dial-in the speed setting on your inline fan and it will keep things running smooth. Read the mushrooms.


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26586487 - 04/08/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I would stick the blue grain in the refrigerator and wait for the temps to drop. But that's just me




I may end up doing that, these syringes are a couple/few years old so I'm not sure if they are even viable anymore. The whole thing is a giant experiment haha.


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: seagu]
    #26586495 - 04/08/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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seagu said:
Quote:

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Quote:

seagu said:
That grow chamber, there is a pic in a link above you missed it, is about the same size I was using with my shelf unit I had setup. Its the same one a lot of people use. Now I didn't check if he has a speed controller on his fan like I do, but my CFM  is either 156 or 195 or something around there. And I definitely needed it on 24/7 on low. OK I just scrolled up and he does have a speed controller like I do. So he will need to put it on low or even medium( yea I had needed to make it stronger for my Lion's Mane) as he dials everything in. With an inkbird humidity controller on his humidi-bucket he will be able to easily keep that chamber at humidity with np. And I see he has one listed. For that sized chamber a 3 disc fogger would work just fine.

This is way easier than trying to fiddle with air exchanges and a dampener, a timer, etc.. And there is no way when I was growing LM that it would have tolerated anything but a constant exhaust. The LM demanded much higher FAE than blue oysters. And so I say from experience the spec sheets are only a starting point - MOAR FAE....

You need to exhaust the spores anyways. You don't want them blown into your room :eek: from leaks and cracks in the grow chamber. So the inline fan on the exhaust out the window or wherever to outside, pulling through the chamber, which pulls FAE in through the humidi-bucket and thus constantly over water helping to keep a constant humidity in the chamber even when the fogger is not fogging. Is super simple. And is loosely based on the old tek of 2 humidifiers. 1 for constant low humidity and the ultrasonic for the blast to raise the RH roof in da house. But simpler and with less moving parts. Make the intake pipes total size on the humidi-bucket slightly smaller than the 4 inch exhaust and you will have a nice suction on your grow chamber that will help seal any leaks and make sure the spores go out the house. And if for some reason you don't have a perfect air tight seal on your chamber all you need to do is cut some cheapo plastic tarp strips and let the air suction do all the work.




Awesome, sounds like a good plan, thanks for the help. I unfortunately don't have access to the outside through my room, is there a way to solve for this so that I don't end up with spore lung cancer?





Its allergies not cancer. And a water trap like SHROOMSISAY01 is saying or a filter. But those filters will fill and its an added cost that I don't think anyone really makes. You could run a flexible hose to the outside?

So yea once you calibrate and then set the RH on the inkbird all you have to do is dial-in the speed setting on your inline fan and it will keep things running smooth. Read the mushrooms.





I'll probably end up making a water trap like SHROOMSISAY01 is saying, I've got time because of the virus to mess around with some stuff and make it nice.

So now my plan is to set up the tent, have my fogger in a closed bucket with an intake that is smaller than the inline fan to create suction, and suck humidity in through the tent and then dispose of the stale air into a water filter bucket to deal with spores. Sound right?


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: cyclones]
    #26587093 - 04/08/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It does. Although I don't know anyone who has been successful with the water trap. AS far as I know its just an idea that has been bandied about on a previous thread as a proof of concept idea of people trying to come up with a solution. As yours is a common problem with people wanting to grow mushrooms and oysters in particular.. having no easy window access. But everything else is tried and tested. But it should work well as a same concept as a bong works I would think.


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: seagu]
    #26587579 - 04/08/20 10:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Well I guess I’ll try it out and see how it goes.


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: seagu]
    #26587622 - 04/08/20 11:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If that filter idea works like a bong I don't think it will work very well.

A bong cools the smoke but most of it passes right through. Spores and smoke particles aren't much different in size.

Am I missing something?


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: deadmandave]
    #26588068 - 04/09/20 05:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

heh.. I was worried about that part of the bong aspect as I typed pointing out the corollary. But I am also thinking that spores will act differently than smoke passing through the water. Could also do a double pull through the water for extra cleaning. He is only growing on a hobby level and not commercially so I don't think there will be as many growing at once to need to clean boat loads of air in comparison. But we won't know until someone tries this concept and posts results. I have a window and vent for both my grow areas so I don't have the problem and need to try it out.


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: seagu]
    #26588199 - 04/09/20 07:32 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I will be the guinea pig


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: cyclones]
    #26588664 - 04/09/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The difference here is you have two different animals. One is a solid the other is a vapor. The solid should get wet and be weighted down and hopefully stick to the water. But yea you are the guinea pig. You can always just grow sporeless oyster if you want some I have them. Be safe and wear a mask until you know what is going on or you could look like this...



I made that pic when someone asked about growing mushrooms on alfalfa. I told them I got a really small flush and put that pic in. You have to have a few years on you to understand that pic.


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    #26588821 - 04/09/20 12:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I prefer spanky.


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    #26588827 - 04/09/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe some growth on the golden today, but also could be a contam lol




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    #26589087 - 04/09/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I prefer spanky.




Now everyone knows your old like me!! You little rascal.


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    #26589125 - 04/09/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I prefer spanky.




Now everyone knows your old like me!! You little rascal.




How old is old? I’m 31 haha


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    #26589200 - 04/09/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, I misspoke you are still young. Your parents must have watched the little rascals while you were around. I got 18 years on you and that show was old when I watched it.


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    #26589232 - 04/09/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Ok, I misspoke you are still young. Your parents must have watched the little rascals while you were around. I got 18 years on you and that show was old when I watched it.




Probably, I watched it long ago. Good movie.


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    #26589291 - 04/09/20 05:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Oh, I forgot they made a movie. I was talking about the original series. Which was in the mid 50's. It is older than I thought.


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    #26590997 - 04/10/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I would try and make a water trap. Run the duct after your exhaust fan into a 5-gallon bucket and fill the bucket with water. Make the section going into the water easy to remove. You will probably have to clean it often. This will also make your exhaust fan less effective. How do you not have a window in the room?

The water should trap any spores.






That's an interesting concept, but has anyone ever tried it? Low-rpm blowers for growrooms or the computer-type ones usually have a static pressure of the order of millimetres. Which means putting the duct into a bucket of water will pretty much choke the fan completely, I guess? Unless you only submerge it a few mm.


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    #26591030 - 04/10/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I would try and make a water trap. Run the duct after your exhaust fan into a 5-gallon bucket and fill the bucket with water. Make the section going into the water easy to remove. You will probably have to clean it often. This will also make your exhaust fan less effective. How do you not have a window in the room?

The water should trap any spores.






That's an interesting concept, but has anyone ever tried it? Low-rpm blowers for growrooms or the computer-type ones usually have a static pressure of the order of millimetres. Which means putting the duct into a bucket of water will pretty much choke the fan completely, I guess? Unless you only submerge it a few mm.




We are going to find out.


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    #26591107 - 04/10/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I would try and make a water trap. Run the duct after your exhaust fan into a 5-gallon bucket and fill the bucket with water. Make the section going into the water easy to remove. You will probably have to clean it often. This will also make your exhaust fan less effective. How do you not have a window in the room?

The water should trap any spores.






That's an interesting concept, but has anyone ever tried it? Low-rpm blowers for growrooms or the computer-type ones usually have a static pressure of the order of millimetres. Which means putting the duct into a bucket of water will pretty much choke the fan completely, I guess? Unless you only submerge it a few mm.




The fan he has should at least blow through the water. This is where trial and error come into play. I would put a float valve on the bucket to keep the water level the same all the time. I am sure he does not have access to water in that room so I would do this...



bulkheads to connect the two buckets are about a dollar to make yourself. So don't waste your money buying them.


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    #26591108 - 04/10/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I would try and make a water trap. Run the duct after your exhaust fan into a 5-gallon bucket and fill the bucket with water. Make the section going into the water easy to remove. You will probably have to clean it often. This will also make your exhaust fan less effective. How do you not have a window in the room?

The water should trap any spores.






That's an interesting concept, but has anyone ever tried it? Low-rpm blowers for growrooms or the computer-type ones usually have a static pressure of the order of millimetres. Which means putting the duct into a bucket of water will pretty much choke the fan completely, I guess? Unless you only submerge it a few mm.




The fan he has should at least blow through the water. This is where trial and error come into play. I would put a float valve on the bucket to keep the water level the same all the time. I am sure he does not have access to water in that room so I would do this...



bulkheads to connect the two buckets are about a dollar to make yourself. So don't waste your money buying them.




I actually do have access to water :cool: but my wife will kill me if I'm running hoses everywhere.


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: cyclones]
    #26591135 - 04/10/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Don't run a hose get a float valve that fits an icemaker fill hose (1/4 In.) and just tap into the water supply with what comes in the icemaker kit...

depending on what you have in your house one of these should work...

https://www.amazon.com/iSpring-ICEK-Connection-Installation-Reverse/dp/B008H71Q4C/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=ice+maker+water+fill+kit&qid=1586547748&s=industrial&sr=1-1

Or this

https://www.lowes.com/pd/EASTMAN-15-ft-L-1-4-in-OD-Inlet-x-1-4-in-Outlet-Copper-Ice-Maker-Installation-Kit/3197163

test it first and make sure you get the desired results from the water trap. Before you mess with running a water line.


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    #26591160 - 04/10/20 01:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I think for now I'll just manually fill it, but will eventually convert it.


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    #26592308 - 04/10/20 10:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Well look what came in the mail today (And some asparagus crowns)



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    #26592862 - 04/11/20 07:18 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, so that fan only has 0.0261068 PSI which I doubt is enough for the water trap. Can you install a dryer vent on the house? That is how I exhast my room out of the house.


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    #26592941 - 04/11/20 08:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Ok, so that fan only has 0.0261068 PSI which I doubt is enough for the water trap. Can you install a dryer vent on the house? That is how I exhast my room out of the house.




I have a dryer vent in the room I could maybe hook into potentially, not sure if that would be good though.


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    #26593071 - 04/11/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

dryer vents are Ace. Is there currently a dryer using it? you can put in a T with a check valve so that no fruiting room air will creep into the dryer.


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    #26593118 - 04/11/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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dryer vents are Ace. Is there currently a dryer using it? you can put in a T with a check valve so that no fruiting room air will creep into the dryer.




Yeah there’s a dryer using it, could you link to a valve you’re talking about?


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Re: I've been out of growing gourmet mushrooms for a while, critique my plan. [Re: cyclones]
    #26593324 - 04/11/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I already sent you a link in my 1st post. But this one would work better for this application...

https://www.amazon.com/Blocker-Backdraft-Extractor-Draught-Shutter/dp/B084BP47PT/ref=sr_1_15?dchild=1&keywords=4+inch+damper&qid=1586626570&sr=8-15

Make sure not to get it to close to the dryer so it does not melt it or get a metal one.


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    #26593355 - 04/11/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That is a low powered fan so if it was me I would not use a flex pipe I would use 4 inch PVC or something that is smooth on the inside or you will greatly reduce the output of the fan. I installed ductwork for the union so trust me you want a smooth pipe for low output fan. You will probably need to reduce the ID of the PVC to fit the backdraft. If so cut a couple of inches of the 4 inch PVC then cut it longways and push it in the pipe.


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    #26593368 - 04/11/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I forgot to send you this...


4" Yee

https://www.amazon.com/POWERTEC-70106-4-Inch-Y-Fitting-Connector/dp/B005VRJIW8/ref=sr_1_25?dchild=1&keywords=4+inch+tee&qid=1586628213&sr=8-25

If you install this properly there is no need for the backdraft. But it is a good safety precaution.

The way the Yee is angled it prevents backdraft.


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    #26593746 - 04/11/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

More things came in the mail today



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    #26601692 - 04/14/20 09:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Cooked off some more grains, this time in a bag. Have about 5 lbs in there. Also my blue oyster is looking healthy! Probably going to transfer it to the bag soon.



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    #26601770 - 04/14/20 10:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I would only use half the jar just in case you have a problem you will have another chance. 1/2 of a jar is more than enough anyway. I use spoodle to spawn my sub bags. It makes the process way easier. one 4 oz scoop per 6 lb bag. Place the spoodle in a spawn bag and PC for 15 mins at 15 psi.

5 to 6 lb bags 4 oz spoodle with no holes...

https://www.amazon.com/Winco-FPS-4-Solid-Portioner-4-Ounce/dp/B004UN8B72/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=4+oz+spoodle&qid=1586926555&sr=8-2

10 to 12 lb bag 8 oz spoodle with no holes...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/8-ounce-Spoodle-Portion-Control-Spoon-Ladle-Server-Blue-Handle-Choose-Style/193049445548?hash=item2cf2a4c4ac:m:mdJipIoDuxe0V_wdCw4l2jA


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    #26602946 - 04/15/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I would only use half the jar just in case you have a problem you will have another chance. 1/2 of a jar is more than enough anyway. I use spoodle to spawn my sub bags. It makes the process way easier. one 4 oz scoop per 6 lb bag. Place the spoodle in a spawn bag and PC for 15 mins at 15 psi.

5 to 6 lb bags 4 oz spoodle with no holes...

https://www.amazon.com/Winco-FPS-4-Solid-Portioner-4-Ounce/dp/B004UN8B72/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=4+oz+spoodle&qid=1586926555&sr=8-2

10 to 12 lb bag 8 oz spoodle with no holes...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/8-ounce-Spoodle-Portion-Control-Spoon-Ladle-Server-Blue-Handle-Choose-Style/193049445548?hash=item2cf2a4c4ac:m:mdJipIoDuxe0V_wdCw4l2jA




Nice I'll probably use half the jar for this bag to see what it does.

Also the blue oyster looking really good currently, king and pink are slow but I shook them last night and they seem to be recovering already:



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    #26602987 - 04/15/20 01:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So I bought this fan, I'm trying to make a laminar flow hood so I can do things more sterile.

Is this good enough to push air through a HEPA filter that is 2x2'?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DWVHVJF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I bought this HEPA, if that fan isn't enough to push air through I'll use the other fan to push air from my chamber outside and get another fan.

https://www.spycor.com/99-97-HEPA-Filter-Wood-Frame-24-x-24-x-11-1-2-p/magpb2424b5a.htm?CartID=1


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    #26603293 - 04/15/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You are ready to tranfer 1/2 the jar to the bag don't wait to long or the jar will be very hard to break up.

There is not enough info on the filter to decide what fan you need. But since it is 12" think I don't think that fan will be big enough. I bought a fan that has more power than is needed and I block the intake air. That way I can easily adjust the power of the fan as the filter gets clogged by opening up the intake air.

https://blog.freshcapmushrooms.com/learn/keeping-it-clean-how-to-design-and-build-a-laminar-flow-hood/

I have only built one flow hood and then I just bought 2 fan filter units from HGR. I got them for $70 each and they were brand new. They cost $1200 each when not bought from somewhere like HGR. I will send you a link.


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    #26603830 - 04/15/20 07:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Lol I winged it, expecting it to be contaminated, but we shall see. I winged it without a flow hood.....


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    #26609287 - 04/17/20 10:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Things are looking good with the grain transfer and shoutout to SHROOMSISAY01 for the bucket idea it turned out very well.



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    #26610086 - 04/18/20 10:23 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

lookin good. Is that auto-fill bucket for your humidifier or for the spore catcher?

what bulk substrate are you going to use? and what kind of temps are you looking at now?


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    #26610475 - 04/18/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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lookin good. Is that auto-fill bucket for your humidifier or for the spore catcher?

what bulk substrate are you going to use? and what kind of temps are you looking at now?




The auto fill is for the humidifier, still have to check temps, I plan on using these for spawn:



I also found some whole oats for $10 for 50 lbs so I will be using that instead of bird seed from now on to spawn.



Here's the auto fill bucket in action:



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    #26610763 - 04/18/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I may convert this room in my garage into a fruiting chamber this summer, I think it’s laid out pretty well for it, just have to figure out drainage.



Bonus grain cooking helper



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    #26613429 - 04/19/20 05:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Lions mane, never grown it before, is this what the mycelium looks like?



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    #26613524 - 04/19/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Lions mane, never grown it before, is this what the mycelium looks like?






How long ago did you inoculate that?

It looks like it is fruiting.  And your grains look too wet.


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    #26613572 - 04/19/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Lions mane, never grown it before, is this what the mycelium looks like?






How long ago did you inoculate that?

It looks like it is fruiting.  And your grains look too wet.




Lol I inoculated it last week or so and the grains didn’t look that wet until recently, not sure what’s going on here haha


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    #26613579 - 04/19/20 06:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ok so I inoculated it 4/8


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    #26613798 - 04/19/20 08:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm thinking its got bacteria in it. but I just started a 5 lb grain bag of LM so I don't know. I started the bag from an agar wedge 5 days ago and it was about 1/2 way colonized. It did not look that great to be honest but again it's my 1st grow of LM so we will see. I did give it a sniff and it did not smell bad, so I will hope for the best.


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    #26613810 - 04/19/20 08:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

11 days I would think it should have more growth than that. Again I would guess bacteria. I know bacteria will cause oysters to want to fruit in the bag before full colonization. Because they try to fruit and drop spores before they are overrun by bacteria.


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    #26613893 - 04/19/20 09:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Weird, I’m going to let it go for a while longer to see what happens haha


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    #26614347 - 04/20/20 04:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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11 days I would think it should have more growth than that. Again I would guess bacteria. I know bacteria will cause oysters to want to fruit in the bag before full colonization. Because they try to fruit and drop spores before they are overrun by bacteria.





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    #26618090 - 04/21/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Lol yeah the lions mane is fruiting, the others are colonizing pretty well, just transferred spawn to whole oats yesterday to see how they do.


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    #26620030 - 04/22/20 01:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The growth on the whole oats seems to be faster than on wbs so I’m liking it so far.



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    #26620117 - 04/22/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I am sure your birdseed was not hydrated properly. I do a 50/50 whole oats/millet or birdseed their the same thing. I used this tek for the first time and my spawn finished in 6 days from an agar wedge. I am sure it would be even faster with G2G...



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    #26620341 - 04/22/20 03:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It seemed good to me but who knows, I think I’ll stick with oats as they are easier so far and cheaper


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    #26621036 - 04/22/20 08:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You have to understand that once you spawn you will have fewer inoculation points using whole oats. Which will slow down the colonization of your sub bags. It is not a big deal but I just thought you might want to know that.


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    #26621198 - 04/22/20 10:56 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That makes sense, not too big of a deal to me right now, maybe in the future though.


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    #26636770 - 04/29/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

So my rye bags are fully colonized and I’m going to be transferring the spawn to my wood pellets (going to pressure cook them today) how much spawn per 5 lbs of hydrated wood pellets is a good ratio?



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    #26636912 - 04/29/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Testing laminar flow, what the hell am I looking for lol



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    #26637054 - 04/29/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Lol I let the lions mane grow and it’s been interesting to watch, so I don’t know if it was comtaminated or just wanted to fruit in the jar



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    #26637494 - 04/29/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That is fruiting in the jar. I know nothing about lions mane but that is definitely fruiting!!
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So my rye bags are fully colonized and I’m going to be transferring the spawn to my wood pellets (going to pressure cook them today) how much spawn per 5 lbs of hydrated wood pellets is a good ratio?






I would colonize the wood inside in a tote. Once the wood is colonized then place it outside. For a 5 lb bag of sawdust, I use 4 oz's of spawn. but wood chips are going to be harder to colonize so I would use something like 20 oz's or more per 5 lbs.


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    #26637550 - 04/29/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I think I’m going to colonize 5lb blocks and put them into my humidity chamber.


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    #26638614 - 04/30/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Testing laminar flow, what the hell am I looking for lol





That looks like a bit much! 

Others might have a different opinion, but I'd tone down the blower a bit.


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    #26639067 - 04/30/20 01:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I have been asking him what type of pre-filter he is using. I bet it is cheap and basically nonexistent.

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    #26639343 - 04/30/20 03:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I have been asking him what type of pre-filter he is using. I bet it is cheap and basically nonexistent.

OP Take a pic of your pre-filter and post it here.



Are you going to pre filter shame me lol


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    #26639629 - 04/30/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

LOL, not my intention. I just think if you put a higher Merv rating filter in. You will cut down on how much air you are getting from your HEPA filter. It will also protect the HEPA better.


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    #26648494 - 05/04/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Was only able to sterilize wood pellets for 1.5 hrs at 15 psi, I was running out of water I think and got scared lol, hopefully that’s enough time...... I’m going to do some more tomorrow and try to hit 2.5 hrs, any tips to not run out of water? I filled it with water about 3/4 up the way of the grow bag. The only thing I can think of is to raise the canning platform on the bottom.


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    #26648752 - 05/04/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Put more water in the PC. I use an old squirrel cage fan piece to raise my bottom rack then set the bottom rack on the fan. I put my bags in and put another rack on top of the bags. I fill the water up to about 1/2 inch above the fan and rack. I also bought some washers to go on my weight. You will not get the wabbling of the weight as before but you won't lose as much water. My PC is PID controlled after a few modifications. So I just press a button and come back the next day. As you can see in the pics I only lose about 1/2 inch of water running my PC for 3 1/2 hours

squirrel cage fan piece. You can use anything to lift the rack and allow more water without flooding the bags...



squirrel cage fan piece with rack on top (back of pic)...



how much water I lost after 3 1/2 hours. I could run my PC for 8 or more hours with no problem...



Hard to tell but the water is basically level with the rack so I still have 2 1/2 inches of water in the PC after the 3 1/2 hours of run time.


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    #26648803 - 05/04/20 06:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Looks like I fucked up and ran the PC dry and now the bottom is bowed.....don’t know if that ruins the PC or not


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    #26648843 - 05/04/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I did that once before I made the modifications actually that is why I made the modifications. I put down a blanket (make sure to use a blanket or something to protect the seal) put the open part of the pot on the blanket and took a heavy hammer put a 2 x 4 on the bottom and straightened it out. If you bend it in too far as I did just use the 2 x 4 long ways to straighten it out from the inside. Be sure to use wood to hit don't hit the aluminum directly with the hammer. of course, do this on a solid surface like a concrete floor.


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    #26648859 - 05/04/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Lol nice, I’ll try that out


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    #26650608 - 05/05/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Checked my blocks today and they are starting to yellow, I think that they are fine, but just wanted to check in, they smell mushroomy still, but they have been sitting for a while, which I bet is causing them some stress, what say you all? No pictures unfortunately as I mixed them up before I thought of that. Thinking it's just metabolites from sitting fully colonized for a while.


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    #26650686 - 05/05/20 12:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I wouldn't worry too much about it. I have had blocks sit so long they start to fruit through the filter patch and through the top of the bag where I twist the bag together and put a zip tie on. You will probably get a smaller yield. But they will fruit when they get fresh air and they will fruit quickly.


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    #26650806 - 05/05/20 01:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'm moving them to a wood pellets to colonize so hopefully that works out well.


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    #26650861 - 05/05/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Well, that didn’t go well, I need to work on my sterile process lol. I bought an impulse sealer and it seemed to not seal very well at all so I bet I have contaminated everything.


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    #26652930 - 05/06/20 01:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

But I like the impulse sealer lol


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    #26664319 - 05/11/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

So my wood pellet substrate is taking forever to colonize, not quite sure why. I didn't add any enrichment at all to it so maybe that is why.


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    #26665508 - 05/11/20 09:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Did you test your water content? What percent of water did you have?


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    #26666425 - 05/12/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I have no idea how to do that, I just followed a video I found on it lol


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