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Can someone explain to me what just happened?
    #26581504 - 04/06/20 11:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I’ve tripped 3 times:
3g - very slight visuals, felt very serene on a hike, safe, happy and extremely meditative.
3.5 - again mostly the same experience as above
5g - most profoundly insightful experience of my life. Started out on a hike and then ended up laying in the back of my car, eyes closed and went to the most beautiful place I’d ever been. I was taught and shown so many things I lost track. Was such a great trip, it’s going to be hard not to compare all my trips to that one! Which is what’s leading me this this:
6g, last night in my bed: I just couldn’t settle in, there was a lot of mind chatter, my back was kind of hurting which was interfering with me lying down and letting. I had this annoying anxiety the whole time. Not scary like bad trip - down the rabbit hole kind of experience; but I just couldn’t get back to that place I was a week prior on the 5g trip. I did experience much crazier visuals. Looking at myself in the mirror was very trippy, kina freaky but necessary for me to look at myself and work through some acceptance stuff.

Look, I just didn’t get into that dream land place where I was shown so many things like I had been the week prior. Maybe I need a break for a month? Maybe it was being in my bedroom that made me feel slightly angsty, I dono...I just couldn’t “get there” if that makes sense. Some stuff was way more intense than the week prior, certain moments of thought felt more profound, it just wasn’t extremely insightful, serene, beautiful, like it had been on 5g. I kept talking to myself, like for two hour straight I couldn’t settle down and stop the chatter. It’s like...maybe I was frustrated I couldn't replicate the same experience?? I dono, can anyone relate here? What happened exactly? I felt fine prior to the trip, but it was late at night, different setting, slightly higher dose etc...I just wanted to go a step further than I had the week prior but I learned that the depth of your trip is not always dependent upon dose! Set and setting may > than


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    #26581536 - 04/06/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

As you said, set and setting are everything. It' not the dose at all. Sometimes small doses like a single gram taken in the right setting can teach you more than haf an ounce.

Maybe it was you seeking the same experience as before, that hindered you from letting go..
Trips will never be identical, no matter how hard you try. In fact, the more you try to replicate an earlier experience, the more disappointing and frustrating it will get.

Learn to be happy with the experiences you'll be put in.

Expectations will not come true. Don't be disappointed but work with whatever will come.
Let it be and go with the flow. Don't try to direct it, you can't do it. Shrooms will show you what you need to be shown. Each trip is unique and magical.

:sun: :mushroom2: :smirk:

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Re: Can someone explain to me what just happened? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26581558 - 04/06/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I way prefer tripping in nature.

But yeah, you have to let the shrooms take you to the ride, you can't just ask them to take you to the same place.


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Re: Can someone explain to me what just happened? [Re: poisoned]
    #26581584 - 04/06/20 12:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Pandemoon said:
As you said, set and setting are everything. It' not the dose at all. Sometimes small doses like a single gram taken in the right setting can teach you more than haf an ounce.

Maybe it was you seeking the same experience as before, that hindered you from letting go..
Trips will never be identical, no matter how hard you try. In fact, the more you try to replicate an earlier experience, the more disappointing and frustrating it will get.

Learn to be happy with the experiences you'll be put in.

Expectations will not come true. Don't be disappointed but work with whatever will come.
Let it be and go with the flow. Don't try to direct it, you can't do it. Shrooms will show you what you need to be shown. Each trip is unique and magical.

:sun: :mushroom2: :smirk:

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I way prefer tripping in nature.

But yeah, you have to let the shrooms take you to the ride, you can't just ask them to take you to the same place.





I kept reminding myself to let down and let it be whatever it needs to be but for some reason I was stuck in a loop of feeling uncomfortable and that got in the way. BUT I’m a very nostalgic person, I love creating meaningful moments that I can carry with me forever and I feel like I was so stuck in getting back to that place I was in last week, it was like I couldn’t wait to go
Back. And as soon as I realized that trip can’t be replicated I started to enjoy it a bit more but it was just observational, not so much introspective. At about the two hour mark I settled in but within the hour things started to end; that burst of energy, clarity and almost euphoria that washes over you when that heavy body load lifts of you. I dono, I just kind of felt like it was a dud, like the trip didn’t teach me much; but maybe expecting to take away huge life lessons everytime is greedy and I net to lay down my expectations for future trips.


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Re: Can someone explain to me what just happened? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26581598 - 04/06/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Pandemoon said:
As you said, set and setting are everything. It' not the dose at all. Sometimes small doses like a single gram taken in the right setting can teach you more than haf an ounce.

Maybe it was you seeking the same experience as before, that hindered you from letting go..
Trips will never be identical, no matter how hard you try. In fact, the more you try to replicate an earlier experience, the more disappointing and frustrating it will get.

Learn to be happy with the experiences you'll be put in.

Expectations will not come true. Don't be disappointed but work with whatever will come.

Let it be and go with the flow. Don't try to direct it, you can't do it. Shrooms will show you what you need to be shown. Each trip is unique and magical.

:sun: :mushroom2: :smirk:

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This is sage advice.

Last weekend I had a 0.5g trip of some slightly more potent than average cubes. I cried for two hours, a cleansing pleasurably cathartic weep. Such a low dose and much more emotional than most of my 3-3.5g trips.
Yesterday I took 1.5g of a new batch to test. The CEVS for the first hour were some of the strongest I’ve had.
Then I’ve had doses In the past of 3g where I just tumbled around uncomfortably in my bed. I think expectations play a big role. I had no expectations of these last two smaller doses and I was blown away. Yet in the past I expected my doses of 3g and above to be as powerful and life changing as my first. Doesn’t happen that way.

Pandemoon is spot on. Be happy with the experiences you’ve had. If you continue this journey, you will have an unbelievable range of experiences on every dose. From intense to barely noticeable. From profound to just downright entertaining. From dull to momentous. That’s the beauty, you don’t repeat one experience endless times. You blossom anew each time.


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Re: Can someone explain to me what just happened? [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26581607 - 04/06/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

Pandemoon said:
As you said, set and setting are everything. It' not the dose at all. Sometimes small doses like a single gram taken in the right setting can teach you more than haf an ounce.

Maybe it was you seeking the same experience as before, that hindered you from letting go..
Trips will never be identical, no matter how hard you try. In fact, the more you try to replicate an earlier experience, the more disappointing and frustrating it will get.

Learn to be happy with the experiences you'll be put in.

Expectations will not come true. Don't be disappointed but work with whatever will come.

Let it be and go with the flow. Don't try to direct it, you can't do it. Shrooms will show you what you need to be shown. Each trip is unique and magical.

:sun: :mushroom2: :smirk:

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This is sage advice.

Last weekend I had a 0.5g trip of some slightly more potent than average cubes. I cried for two hours, a cleansing pleasurably cathartic weep. Such a low dose and much more emotional than most of my 3-3.5g trips.
Yesterday I took 1.5g of a new batch to test. The CEVS for the first hour were some of the strongest I’ve had.
Then I’ve had doses In the past of 3g where I just tumbled around uncomfortably in my bed. I think expectations play a big role. I had no expectations of these last two smaller doses and I was blown away. Yet in the past I expected my doses of 3g and above to be as powerful and life changing as my first. Doesn’t happen that way.

Pandemoon is spot on. Be happy with the experiences you’ve had. If you continue this journey, you will have an unbelievable range of experiences on every dose. From intense to barely noticeable. From profound to just downright entertaining. From dull to momentous. That’s the beauty, you don’t repeat one experience endless times. You blossom anew each time.






That’s it, it felt like a dull trip, minus when I turned the lights on a little and my visuals were bonkers!! But that stuff doesn’t really do much for me because I enjoy my eyes closed and my mind to wander. Unfortunately 6g did not yield the same experience as before, but also the same experience won’t happen again; they’ll all be distinctly different. Perhaps in the days to come I’ll have more clarity, but as of right now I just felt like during the trip was disappointed even though I felt the effects of the trip really strongly, I just didn’t journey if that makes sense. Like you said, tumbling around in bed, that’s exactly what I did for 80% of the trip.


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Re: Can someone explain to me what just happened? [Re: Orange24]
    #26581614 - 04/06/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Some trips just are this way.
I remember my third or fourth trip to be not very profound. I took a medium to large dose but didn't feel much. I had visuals and an altered mind, thoughtloops and stuff like that, but there was no depth at all.
Felt disappointing, yes.

But that's just how it is sometimes. :shrug:

I bet your future trips will be more entertaining again.

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Re: Can someone explain to me what just happened? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26581620 - 04/06/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Pandemoon said:
Some trips just are this way.
I remember my third or fourth trip to be not very profound. I took a medium to large dose but didn't feel much. I had visuals and an altered mind, thoughtloops and stuff like that, but there was no depth at all.
Felt disappointing, yes.

But that's just how it is sometimes. :shrug:

I bet your future trips will be more entertaining again.

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I wish I could have explained it as simply as
You just did haha. That’s how it was! I was annoyed! I just need to take another week or a month off and try again but probably back down to 4-5g


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Re: Can someone explain to me what just happened? [Re: Orange24]
    #26581634 - 04/06/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Everyone already said the right things, and it seems like you are open to trying again with a fresh mindset.

So, I will only mention two things, how far out are you spacing your trips? You might try waiting 2-3 weeks and doing like 4g. Edit: saw you answer, good idea. 

I also want to restate the ideas presented here already by saying; Approach your trips with less concern over achieving certain states or certain dosages. There is so much strangeness to explore, it would be a disservice to your future and present experiences to always compare them to previous experiences. Soon and over time, with more experience, it will become easier to be able to appreciate all of the various nuances surrounding set and setting, dosages and/or states, rather than possibly creating a “chasing the dragon” scenario for yourself. Which it appears to me you are already aware of with your tendency towards with nostalgia.


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Re: Can someone explain to me what just happened? [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26581651 - 04/06/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Shr00mEater said:
Everyone already said the right things, and it seems like you are open to trying again with a fresh mindset.

So, I will only mention two things, how far out are you spacing your trips? You might try waiting 2-3 weeks and doing like 4g. Edit: saw you answer, good idea. 

I also want to restate the ideas presented here already by saying; Approach your trips with less concern over achieving certain states or certain dosages. There is so much strangeness to explore, it would be a disservice to your future and present experiences to always compare them to previous experiences. Soon and over time, with more experience, it will become easier to be able to appreciate all of the various nuances surrounding set and setting, dosages and/or states, rather than possibly creating a “chasing the dragon” scenario for yourself. Which it appears to me you are already aware of with your tendency towards with nostalgia.





This is why I feel like I’m getting greedy, because I’ve tripped 3 times the last month. I need more time
Between trips. I’m just excited to explore and when the opportunity to trip presents itself I think “this is a perfect time”. But, I’m gonna give it a few weeks or possibly longer to allow my brain to sort of let go of the experiences I’m trying to recreate. Create a blank slate if you will.


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Re: Can someone explain to me what just happened? [Re: Orange24]
    #26581847 - 04/06/20 02:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I would also add, Orange24, that tolerance was involved. You took 5g, the most profound experience of your life, then one week later you take 6g. After such a strong trip you need a minimum two weeks to replicate “the magic”. Some will advocate 4 weeks. After 2 quite heavy trips, try waiting now for a full month, then try the 6g again. You won’t be disappointed :thumbup:


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Re: Can someone explain to me what just happened? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26581856 - 04/06/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I would also add, Orange24, that tolerance was involved. You took 5g, the most profound experience of your life, then one week later you take 6g. After such a strong trip you need a minimum two weeks to replicate “the magic”. Some will advocate 4 weeks. After 2 quite heavy trips, try waiting now for a full month, then try the 6g again. You won’t be disappointed :thumbup:




Yep, definitely part of it! Going to try and wait a month. Maybe do it outside the home, in nature lying down again.

I did have one very profound moment, the though that the whole world right now is shut down due to the virus. When you really think about our entire planet being affected by this, it’s quite alarming. Haha it didn’t get much deeper than than that though. Spending time looking at my face in the mirror was trippy, when my vision was relaxed my face was split into quadrants. Strange stuff but none of the exciting stuff I had a week prior. Time for a good break and then we’ll try again.


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Re: Can someone explain to me what just happened? [Re: Orange24]
    #26581862 - 04/06/20 02:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You can still have quite strong aspects to the follow on trip, quite intense at times, but never “magical”. I cannot put it into words eloquently, but I think you can now understand exactly what I am trying to get across. I’ve had it loads of times, sir. It’s all down to respecting the mushrooms so they give you their all; and you have to live and learn that respect by making lots and lots of mistakes. Don’t despair, awesomeness awaits :acidfire: and this is now your life journey


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Re: Can someone explain to me what just happened? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26581868 - 04/06/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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You can still have quite strong aspects to the follow on trip, quite intense at times, but never “magical”. I cannot put it into words eloquently, but I think you can now understand exactly what I am trying to get across. I’ve had it loads of times, sir. It’s all down to respecting the mushrooms so they give you their all; and you have to live and learn that respect by making lots and lots of mistakes. Don’t despair, awesomeness awaits :acidfire: and this is now your life journey




It’s all about the journey, sometimes you get a chance to touch the sky and other times you can’t get off the ground. I know this isn’t the end of my experiences. I’m definitely on to something special here.


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Re: Can someone explain to me what just happened? [Re: Orange24]
    #26581874 - 04/06/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Good luck on your journey, I’ve really enjoyed your posts so far.

Sending love and peace, brother
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Re: Can someone explain to me what just happened? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26581908 - 04/06/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Good luck on your journey, I’ve really enjoyed your posts so far.

Sending love and peace, brother
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Thanks brother. Just trying to navigate my way through new experiences the best I can


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Re: Can someone explain to me what just happened? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26583657 - 04/07/20 10:23 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Pandemoon said:
As you said, set and setting are everything. It' not the dose at all. Sometimes small doses like a single gram taken in the right setting can teach you more than haf an ounce.

Maybe it was you seeking the same experience as before, that hindered you from letting go..
Trips will never be identical, no matter how hard you try. In fact, the more you try to replicate an earlier experience, the more disappointing and frustrating it will get.

Learn to be happy with the experiences you'll be put in.

Expectations will not come true. Don't be disappointed but work with whatever will come.
Let it be and go with the flow. Don't try to direct it, you can't do it. Shrooms will show you what you need to be shown. Each trip is unique and magical.

:sun: :mushroom2: :smirk:

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Yeah this was a hard lesson to learn, I really wanted to go through the same experiences again but that mindset ruined a few trips for me. I once replicated a beautiful experience almost perfectly but at the end it felt wrong and got derailed (like it's supposed to but I didn't want that), it was a poor copy that never should have been.


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