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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26582649 - 04/06/20 08:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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It wouldn’t take much to kill all seven people in Wyoming




:canthelpbutlaugh:

and there's 12 people in Wyoming to be exact okay


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Asante]
    #26582650 - 04/06/20 08:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Hell yeah!  Thank you!
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] * 2
    #26582656 - 04/06/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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The CDC is in Atlanta, the Governor is oblivious.




Nah, worse, he’s a corrupt liar


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: doctorghosty] * 2
    #26582672 - 04/06/20 08:23 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

All these church rebels ive been reading about need to be handled harsher. Authorities should offer life in prison to anyone who holds  or attends religious gatherings


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: trees] * 3
    #26582676 - 04/06/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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All these church rebels ive been reading about need to be handled harsher. Authorities should offer life in prison to anyone who holds  or attends religious gatherings



or we could just incorporate that information into the triaging databases when resources become too limited


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #26582684 - 04/06/20 08:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Tax them and use the money to treat other patients



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When Gov. Greg Abbott issued his executive order Tuesday restricting nonessential activities, he made sure to note religious services are considered essential.

But in a time when people aren’t supposed to gather, what can and can’t houses of worship do? The governor’s office and the Office of the Attorney General released some guidance Wednesday.

Here’s a breakdown of what it says. Read the actual document here.

Remote services

Many religious groups often meet in large gatherings in one building, but that’s not what federal and state authorities are saying people should do during this pandemic. Under the governor’s order, houses of worship should conduct their services remotely whenever possible. That means via audio, video or teleconference.

What if a group can’t conduct a religious service remotely?

If a house of worship doesn’t have the technological or financial ability to provide remote service, Abbott's order says it should conduct its activities in accordance with White House guidelines.

That means:

    Telling staff, volunteers and attendees to stay home if they are sick
    Maintaining appropriate distance between people (6 feet per the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)
    Washing hands frequently, using hand sanitizer, coughing and sneezing into an elbow and not touching one's face
    Cleaning and disinfecting spaces frequently

Some houses of worship must avoid gatherings

The governor and attorney general say houses of worship should work with their city or county to evaluate the rate of local community spread of COVID-19 in their area and determine what level of mitigation strategies to implement. If a community is experiencing substantial community spread, all in-person gatherings of any size should be canceled, the guidance states. 

Community spread means people have been infected with the virus in that community, not from traveling, and they may not know where they got it.

Note: Austin-Travis County does have sustained person-to-person spread, according to health officials. The number of counties in Texas with at least one case of COVID-19 continues to increase. As of Wednesday, 135 of 254 counties are reporting at least one case of the disease.

If a community has moderate to substantial spread, the governor and AG’s offices say they should follow CDC recommendations: reduce activities in coordination with local health officials, smaller gatherings with social-distancing measures may be possible, cancel activities with 10 or more people when high-risk groups attend (people 65 and older or those with underlying health conditions), and use “creative means” to deliver services.

Creative means? The governor and AG’s offices have some ideas: Hold Easter service in the parking lot with people in their cars — windows down — in every other parking spot. The worship leader can talk over a loudspeaker. Or provide services, like communion or a blessing, via drive-thru.

What about local stay-at-home orders?

The governor says entities providing religious services should follow both the governor’s order and local orders. In situations where the two conflict, the governor’s order overrides. In Austin’s stay-at-home order, religious entities are not explicitly mentioned as essential services — as the governor’s order now makes them — but the local order does state church staff or clergy can travel in order to facilitate the production of remote religious services or for other ministries requiring travel.



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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Tantrika] * 1
    #26582700 - 04/06/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Their senator was aware of what was coming when she dumped all her stock


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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: cannabinated] * 1
    #26582723 - 04/06/20 08:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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An estimated additional 180 - 195 deaths per day occurring at home in New York City due to COVID-19 are not being counted in the official figures. "Early on in this crisis we were able to swab people who died at home, and thus got a coronavirus reading. But those days are long gone. We simply don't have the testing capacity for the large numbers dying at home. Now only those few who had a test confirmation *before* dying are marked as victims of coronavirus on their death certificate. This almost certainly means we are undercounting the total number of victims of this pandemic," said Mark Levine, Chair of New York City Council health committee




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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
    #26582728 - 04/06/20 08:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

everything's closed anyway no point in going out there


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: Niffla] * 2
    #26582758 - 04/06/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm not sure why you're trying to downplay everyone's knowledge here with regards to COVID19.  A lot of us, including myself, listen to the experts and read a lot of information regarding this. 





I'm not downplaying everyone's knowledge here, but I do find it a little amusing how virtually everybody now is a full blown coronavirus expert. Here or anywhere.

But yes I respect that you've put a lot of effort into researching it. And I am not saying that facetiously.

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Yes, Niffla, half a million people is a lot of people that can spread the virus to other parts of the country.




I wasn't trying to minimize or take light of what kind of damage a half million infected people could do. I mean that's pretty obvious. But again I think it's a quite a stretch from having 200 confirmed cases in 8 weeks to the entire state of population of WY being infected, no? And anyways my point was, having lived in Wyoming for two years, is that believe me when I tell you that people from Wyoming, the extreme vast majority of them want absolutely nothing to do with coming to any of our cities. You couldn't pay them to.

Shit they loathe their own "cities", which aren't even cities. Cheyenne last time I checked was their most populated "city" or town and when I left there in 2011 the population of Cheyenne wasn't even 60,000. The thought of Wyoming getting an explosion of cases and then panicking to the cities to be saved is hilarious to me. If it happens though, God forbid, I'll be the first one to admit how wrong I was (won't be the first time) and I promise you will have my vote to succeed Dr. Fauci when he retires.

Until then, yes, I will lean towards Wyoming's state government over yourself or anyone else's opinion who doesn't or has never lived there.



I get what you're saying  and i respect your opinion but i dont want to see something horrible happen in these states and people will say things like hindsight  is 2020 or if we only knew when we did know exactly how infectious and deadly this is.


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26582776 - 04/06/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I get what you're saying  and i respect your opinion but i dont want to see something horrible happen in these states and people will say things like hindsight  is 2020 or if we only knew when we did know exactly how infectious and deadly this is.




That is true, ST. I would feel pretty horrible (having my take on them not shutting down) if later on down the road the numbers and deaths spiked there.

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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: Niffla] * 3
    #26582799 - 04/06/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Just used my homemade mask. Its three parts: Medical mask (cheap) near my face, then the orange mountain bike mask then last the space festival dust mask mostly for looks but also filteration too.

Had a coffee mask and it was too hard to breathe thru so i didnt use it:


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: HamHead] * 2
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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26582812 - 04/06/20 09:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

LC did you start printing stuff on that 3d printer? You should print yourself a whole astronaut helmet.


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26582824 - 04/06/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I never doubted you wouldn't feel that way Niffy:hug: you've always had one of the biggest hearts here in the community. I also understand the sentiment that if it all possible that total shut down and people being out of work in Mass is a nightmare scenario but I do firmly believe that to get through this we have to have people alive at the end of the tunnel to work the jobs that are open for business right now. Also I believe the sooner the entire country takes unilateral action it will send a message to people that don't understand the dangers of this pandemic or the ones that still think it's overblown. On Facebook just in my friend community there's mostly people on board and preaching social distancing, washing your hands, public Gatherings Etc but there's also an alarming group of people that like to compare this to the flu and how many people that kills per year. Knowing the science behind it I've never been scared of the flu and to this day I have never gotten the flu accept minor cases from flu shots. This is different and it's only been around for 4 months or so we have no idea what kind of trajectory this is going to head towards
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I get what you're saying  and i respect your opinion but i dont want to see something horrible happen in these states and people will say things like hindsight  is 2020 or if we only knew when we did know exactly how infectious and deadly this is.




That is true, ST. I would feel pretty horrible (having my take on them not shutting down) if later on down the road the numbers and deaths spiked there.

:raisemyglass:




I never thought you wouldn’t feel that way Niffy :hug: you have one of the biggest hearts on the board and  part of what keeps the community taking :heart:


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 2
    #26582843 - 04/06/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Yes.




Well we'll agree to disagree. I think it's wrong to lockdown an entire state and to press the pause button on their entire economy when in almost 3 months of this they (Wyoming in this case) haven't seen a single death from it. I also trust that these states, who ultimately are making the final decision, know infinitely more what's better for them and their state than I or you or anyone on the federal level who lives two thousand miles away.



As of right now Wyoming has 200 confirmed cases, that's great no one has died YET but if you ignore it and don't take proper precautions they could turn into Florida or any other hard hit state. Not only that but states that are nearing their Peak could have to start all over again which makes all those people that got laid off because they're doing what's right and what's nessicary. There's a lot of people right now suffering financially so that we could all get through this as soon as possible. If the remaining five states don't issue any kind of stay-at-home order I don't think that they should get ANY of the stimulus package. They didn't sacrifice for the country, they don't take it seriously enough to enact basic protection measures AND they're a threat to every other state on lockdown and stopping the pandemic worldwide.

Niff  seems like you're basing your decision on the fact that these states don't have many cases yet or any deaths yet but do you really think that that's going to stay the same if everyone is out there business-as-usual?



They are taking some precautions. There may no stay at home order but they've closed schools, all visitors from out of state have to self quarantine for 2 weeks, dining in at restaurants is banned, gatherings in groups of 10 or more are banned, and of course people are advised to practice social distancing and to stay at home as much as possible. It sounds pretty reasonable to me. :shrug:


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: psi]
    #26582845 - 04/06/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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LC did you start printing stuff on that 3d printer? You should print yourself a whole astronaut helmet.




I have not. I still havent printed anything yet.

Man i wish i could print a helmet. I would need so much fillament thou! :eek: :omgz:


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26582861 - 04/06/20 09:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Honestly, I didn't really buy into the whole "COVID was made in a lab" theory, but maybe it's got some teeth?



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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26582880 - 04/06/20 10:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I definitely buy that the virus could have came from a lab. China is pretty notorious for unscrupulous safety standards.

But I don't buy that it was an intentional plot by anyone or that this was engineered as some massive weapon. There would be too many variables for anyone to successfully benefit.


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: audiophoenix]
    #26582885 - 04/06/20 10:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, it doesn't make sense to me either that there's a culling on purpose happening....but accidental release....I could see that happening.  Kind of like how SARS escaped twice from a Beijing lab.


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