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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: Roger Clemency] * 1
    #26585732 - 04/08/20 07:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

People want to act like there's some kind of exacting science behind growing cubes and they're special because they got a canopy. Get the fuck outta here. They grow like weeds. Any idiot can do it. I'm the perfect example 🤪


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: eatyualive]
    #26585776 - 04/08/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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So I was an avid dung grower for years and years. Love horsee plop the best. It’s the perfect substrate. But coir/verm is too easy and doesn’t need pasteurization or much heat treatment other than to expand the brick. You can’t beat being able to spawn a substrate 30 minutes after it’s been prepped. Whereas, you may have to prep then pasteurize the plop comparatively. I do throw in a hint of dung in my grows here and there. I think most people use coir these days because it’s easy. It’s one less step. And boil prepping coir is also an outdated method.





what is the current method for coir prep?


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: aga080]
    #26585839 - 04/08/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I think most people use the bucket method. Some people just hydrate it and use it tho.


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: poisoned] * 1
    #26585935 - 04/08/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

This is proof of the power of horse poo:



Last week I buried in Hpoo a "spent" sub from my first grow (a 12" x 12" casserole dish) that I started on Jan 7.  It was shriveled and shrunk and just plain pathetic looking. I  watered it a couple times due to very  dry weather. It rained Sunday and Monday,  so this morning I took a look before work.  Making some prints from that bad boy... uh girl... uh hermaphroditic creature.


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: Odo]
    #26585965 - 04/08/20 09:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I’m about to try my first manure grow, gonna side by side a clone.


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: A.k.a]
    #26586015 - 04/08/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Poop is made from grass and feed.
Basically grain and straw. But it's been digested. They love the shit. I actually just recently spawned some tubs and didn't pasteurize for longer than 15 min once the water reached 160-170 I steeped the shit for 25 min in those temp's. So far so good.
If I can get coir I'd use it instead of straw. I prefer coir but can't get it. I'm an expat in Peru. Coir is God straw is nice but it doesn't work like coir. The poo I feel is a supplement. I use leftover shit straw tea when I prep my grains. I use whole wheat berry. Pooooooo


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: yojay50]
    #26586376 - 04/08/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

cubes are not even classified as dung lovers, they are so ready through zoochary.
ding lovers are thick walled cubes don't really fit that bill


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: cronicr]
    #26586672 - 04/08/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Well growing up in Texas with cow fields everywhere, they sure like growing on cow pies. I’ve picked maybe a thousand pounds fresh in the time I was picking growing up. Midland texas had 10 inch diameter caps. Fucking insane. And those sent me on an Alice in wonderland ride. Wow. Probably one of the most intense trips I’ve had. Even more so than ape and pans.


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: eatyualive]
    #26586692 - 04/08/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Eat - you know that’s just genetics  and set and setting :wow:

Ether way, cubes do not require manure. And I’ll stick to Damion5050’s bucket tek.:2cents:


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #26586764 - 04/08/20 04:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I do know they don’t require manure but they naturally grow in it. I use coir myself minus the boil. With a little verm. I love both. :levitate:

I used to grow off grass and coir 50/50 for a good ten years. It’s probably my favorite substrate. I also tried yesterdays mews pelleted cat litter newspaper.

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So I was an avid dung grower for years and years. Love horsee plop the best. It’s the perfect substrate. But coir/verm is too easy and doesn’t need pasteurization or much heat treatment other than to expand the brick. You can’t beat being able to spawn a substrate 30 minutes after it’s been prepped. Whereas, you may have to prep then pasteurize the plop comparatively. I do throw in a hint of dung in my grows here and there. I think most people use coir these days because it’s easy. It’s one less step. And boil prepping coir is also an outdated method.





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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: eatyualive]
    #26586775 - 04/08/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

And yeast naturally comes from the skins of grapes but it does a better job growing in beer than wine.


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26586779 - 04/08/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I’ve found cubes and pans side by side in horse poop out in fields in northwest Florida.

@ago. Heat water for five minutes. Dump over brick. It will expand and cool in 30 minutes. Mix and spawn.  Tested clones side by side with both and yield is the same. colonization speed is slightly faster somehow.


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: eatyualive] * 1
    #26588905 - 04/09/20 01:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



This is my recent experiment tray. I'm growing in conditions I'm not used to. I feel I have to change something somewhere, the veils broke to soon IMO. Idk I also have another thread open talking about where I'm at. Just finished soaking the sub for an hour letting it dry rn. The "flush" it gave me before was one mushroom. This is the "second" flush. Short and early to break. Also wackky cold temps


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: yojay50] * 1
    #26589796 - 04/09/20 09:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

This is just coir. Maybe verm. But coir. Dont even boil water anymore.



Another. 

Again

Couple more.

So that's good enough and easier to play with.
Idk if I'll ever use doodoo.
Why, ya know.


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26603228 - 04/15/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

are there any new dung teks around here ? I found some 18 year old tek but i'm worried that new things could emerge in that time ? can you guys link me something I can read  ?

lockdown is shit, cant get anything, but I have sheep/cow field nearby and I could harvest some
good looking S*IT around there...


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: davidb199]
    #26603269 - 04/15/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

From Magic Mushroom Growers Guide - Simple Steps to Bulk Cultivation, Quaesitor, 2015

40% dried and pulverized horse manure
30% coconut fiber
30% vermiculite
0.4L water for every 1L substrate


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: InfraredRick]
    #26603390 - 04/15/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Lookup ham loaf he has some good dung teks and how to process.


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: InfraredRick]
    #26603481 - 04/15/20 05:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

no coco coir in my area, also verm costs like gold here... not available nearby.... I have perlite though...

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thanks, will check ham loaf !


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: davidb199]
    #26611284 - 04/18/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I definitely get bigger fruits from the same clones on manure

The 295g fruit in my sig came off a 3495g flush in a 66qt tub of hpoo/straw/coir

I usually use coir these days tho, for ease


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #26611308 - 04/18/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm just gonna say. I'm so tired of fucking with coir. It is easy and works really well. But what the hell I'm tired of buying it.

I want to do a grow from WBS and bullshit in my backyard. It's Coivd 19 people.

No more iso, no more coir. All we need is a good culture and some grains.

Who can grow the most minimalist grow possible. Only use a grain and anything you can find around your house.


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