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cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species
    #26582558 - 04/06/20 07:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

this is how i feel using dung now, its almost like they are jst saying

"we'll grow without poop to eat but fuck you man, we need poop."

use coir, but add poop!


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: yojay50]
    #26582576 - 04/06/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Don’t disagree there.


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: eatyualive]
    #26582898 - 04/06/20 10:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: gizmo1] * 2
    #26582910 - 04/06/20 10:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Give me a month.
I’ll send you a bucket of “poop.”:trolldance:
We’ll see what you can grow off of it.
Coir+verm has been proven to work with as little nutrients as the substrate provides.


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: TranscendingLife] * 1
    #26582925 - 04/06/20 10:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Im pretty sure they love it as long as there's no competitors. They get to live a full and healthy life, what more do they care?


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: Failboat]
    #26582938 - 04/06/20 10:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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TranscendingLife said:
Give me a month.
I’ll send you a bucket of “poop.”:trolldance:
We’ll see what you can grow off of it.
Coir+verm has been proven to work with as little nutrients as the substrate provides.





i would make it happen but diarrhea takes alot of work to prep

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Im pretty sure they love it as long as there's no competitors. They get to live a full and healthy life, what more do they care?




they dont get to eat their favorite food


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: yojay50]
    #26582946 - 04/06/20 10:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Are you trying to propagate a strain/variety, or actually grow?
I dump all my “spent substrate” at a buddy’s house that gets fruits and continues to in other spots.


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #26582995 - 04/06/20 11:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

growing, isnt everyone isolating "strains"?

they will eat anything, just like oyster will grow on grains etc.

they love that poop tho.

i did alot of coir and verm back at sea level.

would love to do coir+dung


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: yojay50]
    #26583558 - 04/07/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I rarely run isolates. I just get good growth on agar and transfer a few times for a clean culture.
If I was going for an isolate, I’d start from a clone :shrug:
But that’s me. I don’t like flying blind.


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #26583970 - 04/07/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I got a few cloned running atm. A few agar pins and a sub that I'm gonna pluck one off and put on agar.

I'm working with wack temp's 65 and lower 57


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: yojay50] * 1
    #26584340 - 04/07/20 03:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So I was an avid dung grower for years and years. Love horsee plop the best. It’s the perfect substrate. But coir/verm is too easy and doesn’t need pasteurization or much heat treatment other than to expand the brick. You can’t beat being able to spawn a substrate 30 minutes after it’s been prepped. Whereas, you may have to prep then pasteurize the plop comparatively. I do throw in a hint of dung in my grows here and there. I think most people use coir these days because it’s easy. It’s one less step. And boil prepping coir is also an outdated method.


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: eatyualive]
    #26585060 - 04/07/20 09:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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eatyualive said:boil prepping coir is also an outdated method.




What's the current state of the art?

I'm back after a minute gone and trying to find my feet again - most recent I could find was Stro's tek with the insulated cooler.


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: Fischer]
    #26585107 - 04/07/20 09:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ive had varied success using coir/verm for cubes. Mostly comes does down to genetics. I recently acquired an unlimited free supply of equine manure. Can't wait to see what the difference is going to be. I also pasterurized for 60-90 minutes. Is this adequate or should I go longer using a 30/30 manure/coir/ with vermiculite/gypsum mix?


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: Spirit-Crusher] * 5
    #26585212 - 04/07/20 10:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

mother nature growing in manure is an insult to our hobby


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: cronicr] * 1
    #26585234 - 04/07/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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mother nature growing in manure is an insult to our hobby



Ha loved this


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: Spirit-Crusher] * 2
    #26585308 - 04/08/20 12:01 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Ive had varied success using coir/verm for cubes. Mostly comes does down to genetics. I recently acquired an unlimited free supply of equine manure. Can't wait to see what the difference is going to be. I also pasterurized for 60-90 minutes. Is this adequate or should I go longer using a 30/30 manure/coir/ with vermiculite/gypsum mix?



If you've have varied success with coir/verm then your spawn was bad or your coir prep was poor. I doubt your moving to poo will be more fruitful.


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: yojay50]
    #26585483 - 04/08/20 03:14 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Are u saying that manure beats grains? How can this be....


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26585631 - 04/08/20 06:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: eatyualive]
    #26585651 - 04/08/20 06:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Cubensis probably more of a grass and grain loving species than a "manure" loving species. What is manure made from after all??


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Re: cubensis grown without dung is an insult to the species [Re: Stromrider] * 1
    #26585664 - 04/08/20 06:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Cubensis probably more of a grass and grain loving species than a "manure" loving species. What is manure made from after all??




Spicy fried chicken from chicken fillet?

I had cubes tear up some hpoo and vermiculite. They also tore up the coir and vermiculite lol. They just love stuff I think.


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