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Bad strain or bad technique?
    #26582081 - 04/06/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I wish everyone wellness!  I've grown cubensis 3 times -- twice with brown rice flour cakes (PF Tek), and once using oats (Bod EAF), always following instructions to the letter, and with what seemed like great success and high yield.  Used syringe from respected supplier mentioned on this website.  I waited till jars were fully-colonized, then after picking right before veils opened, I dried the shrooms under a fan for 24 hrs, then used DampRid in a container till cracker-dry, then ground them into a powder, then ingested 3 grams via tea or sprinkled on a peanut butter sandwich.  I made sure my setting was good (at home, with loving husband, on a pretty day). .............  But the trip experiences were disappointing; no nice high. Instead, a major downer, felt fatigued but couldn't sleep, felt like I was slightly drunk. I thought maybe it was because I'm still taking a small amount of antidepressant Citalopram (I've been tapering off for months, now down to tiny amount). But my husband, who knows what a great experience shrooms can create because of his happy experiences when young, had the same results as me.  ............... So either I did something wrong when growing, or I got bad spores.  I would appreciate any advice!


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: Monkey42] * 1
    #26582106 - 04/06/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Take more. Dose too low. Double that dose. Triple that dose. Get rekt


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: Stromrider]
    #26582145 - 04/06/20 04:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

3 grams should have put you on your ass. I have taken two and freaked out so the strain you grew was very weak. Not your fault, just poor genetics. This happens sometimes.


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: Stromrider]
    #26582153 - 04/06/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I would say it has to do with your meds and that being the case.

EAT MORE.


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26582167 - 04/06/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I would say it has to do with your meds and that being the case.

EAT MORE.




She mentioned her husband had the same experience


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: bootedboy]
    #26582168 - 04/06/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I’d also recommend being careful with mushrooms or any drugs for that matter if you suffer from mental health issues


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: bootedboy]
    #26582174 - 04/06/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah genetics then most likely


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26582268 - 04/06/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No such thing as bad spore, just unlucky combination of genetics. Lets me clear the spores are not bad. You grew MultiSpore so the results will always be different. I say try again with the same spores.


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26582778 - 04/06/20 09:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Citalopram will definitely inhibit psilocybin and related chemicals.  You would want to be off it for a week, according to this.  You could start again after.  I've been on and off citalopram over the years.

[edit] Just saw your husband had same effect.  Another explaination could by that they aren't dry enough, and you could be talking a small dose.  If you can, try measuring a sample, and then drying in an oven for an hour at 150*, then weighing again.  Those will definitely be dry. 


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: OldManRiver]
    #26583713 - 04/07/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the replies!  I'm pretty sure they're dry enough; I got them to the brittle, cracker-dry stage.  I agree about caution with the mental health issues, but in my case I just have some anxiety, and after a LOT of researching, I determined that I wanted to try mushrooms to help with the anxiety.  So unless someone has any other ideas, it sounds like I need to try with a different strain and start a square one.  (Too bad; I have 50 dried grams stored up, and 2 bins full of shrooms waiting to be picked!)  I know there are recommendations for suppliers on this website, but if any of you would tell me a supplier and strain that you've really liked, I would really appreciate a personal opinion.
............. PLEASE STAY WELL!!! ..............


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: Monkey42]
    #26583733 - 04/07/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If it was three different grows you’d have to have horrible luck to get weak mushrooms each time.

I’m betting it’s the drying/storage that’s getting them somewhere.

I know a lot of people do this with no problems, but every time I’ve powdered shrooms and put them into capsules then eaten them a couple weeks later they were weak.

One time my friend left them out on his desk so I figured that was it but I’ve also had it happen when the caps were stored in mason jars.

That much exposed surface area makes me nervous now.


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26583794 - 04/07/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I vacuum seal my storage. Try doubling the dose and making tea.


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26586839 - 04/08/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for that advice.  So how do you preserve your shrooms now?  I'm going to try this again... can you recommend a spore company?


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26586842 - 04/08/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

do you vacuum seal the fresh shrooms?  And then freeze them?


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: Monkey42]
    #26586852 - 04/08/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I put them in a mason jar with desiccant packs.

Pm me and I’ll send you prints if you want

Or if you don’t want to do prints I’ll tell you where I got my first syringes. I did at least 20 syringe to grain grows and never lost a jar and made four lcs that were clean so either I got extremely lucky over four syringes or they’ve got good machines cleaning their spores.


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26589070 - 04/09/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks again, all of you who answered!  I'm going to try again.  If things turn out well, I'll post again, and I would be happy to share prints with all who answered.


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: Monkey42]
    #26589249 - 04/09/20 04:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Take  a food processor throw in your fresh mushrooms, 4-6oz water 1-2 oz lime juice tsp honey and blend it. Pour into glass, let settle and then chug it. If that doesn't give you a launch then something def up with the potency. That recipe is for one serving  per individual.


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: shevanel]
    #26592759 - 04/11/20 05:15 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Don't vacuum seal your shrooms. They tend to break


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: poisoned] * 1
    #26592830 - 04/11/20 06:46 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Don't vacuum seal your shrooms. They tend to break




I dont see why that would matter


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: Stromrider] * 1
    #26592837 - 04/11/20 06:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I used to worry about that until I started running out of room.

Now I’m pressing my fist into the half gallon jars to compress them so I can add more.

Luckily brick shrooms are better than brick weed.


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Re: Bad strain or bad technique? [Re: Stromrider]
    #26593047 - 04/11/20 09:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Don't vacuum seal your shrooms. They tend to break




I dont see why that would matter




I don't like having it all dust and no whole shrooms. The same thing as with buds.


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