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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: waves] 1
#26542120 - 03/18/20 07:04 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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waves said: Evidence continues to mount against the bioweapon conspiracy theories.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9
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It is improbable that SARS-CoV-2 emerged through laboratory manipulation of a related SARS-CoV-like coronavirus. As noted above, the RBD of SARS-CoV-2 is optimized for binding to human ACE2 with an efficient solution different from those previously predicted7,11. Furthermore, if genetic manipulation had been performed, one of the several reverse-genetic systems available for betacoronaviruses would probably have been used19. However, the genetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any previously used virus backbone20. Instead, we propose two scenarios that can plausibly explain the origin of SARS-CoV-2: (i) natural selection in an animal host before zoonotic transfer; and (ii) natural selection in humans following zoonotic transfer. We also discuss whether selection during passage could have given rise to SARS-CoV-2.
There is your god damn evidence!
Just kidding
This is strong evidence that SARS-CoV-2 is not the product of purposeful manipulation.
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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: mongo lloyd]
#26581922 - 04/06/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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mongo lloyd said: It came from the toilet paper industry. Wake up sheeple

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(And I kid you not that I saved this photograph from a conspiracy Qanon Facebook group where I go from time to time for a good laugh. Somebody used it as an argument against 5G and it got some Facebook likes. You can get away with almost anything there... THE shithole of the internet.)
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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: Raptoralic] 1
#26581944 - 04/06/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Simply more of a chance that it came from a rundown SARS lab hundreds of feet away, than a pangolin. There was virtually no oversight and safety and many articles are coming out saying that it was probably the lab.
This was an act of war. They killed everyone who tried to blow the whistle.
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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: cannabinated]
#26581950 - 04/06/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wet markets in wuhan probably bats in specific
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Wanna bet?
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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: cannabinated]
#26581975 - 04/06/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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https://www.nature.com/news/polopoly_fs/1.21487!/menu/main/topColumns/topLeftColumn/pdf/nature.2017.21487.pdf?origin=ppub
Occums razor. It was the chinese government 
Nature 2017
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Many staff from the Wuhan lab have been training at a BSL-4 lab in Lyon, which some scientists find reassuring. And the facility has already carried out a test-run using a low-risk virus. But worries surround the Chinese lab, too. The SARS virus has escaped from high-level containment facilities in Beijing multiple times, notes Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University in Piscataway, New Jersey. Tim Trevan, founder of CHROME Biosafety and Biosecurity Consulting in Damascus, Maryland, says that an open cul-ture is important to keeping BSL-4 labs safe, and he questions how easy this will be in China, where society emphasizes hierarchy. “Diversity of viewpoint, flat structures where everyone feels free to speak up and openness of information are important,” he says.Yuan says that he has worked to address this issue with staff. “We tell them the most impor-tant thing is that they report what they have or haven’t done,” he says. And the lab’s inter-national collaborations will increase openness. “Transparency is the basis of the lab,” he adds.The plan to expand into a network height-ens such concerns. One BSL-4 lab in Harbin is already awaiting accreditation; the next two are expected to be in Beijing and Kunming, the latter focused on using monkey models to study disease. Lina says that China’s size justifies this scale, and that the opportunity to com-bine BSL-4 research with an abundance of research monkeys — Chinese researchers face less red tape than those in the West when it comes to research on primates — could be powerful. “If you want to test vaccines or antivirals, you need a non-human primate model,” says Lina.But Ebright is not convinced of the need for more than one BSL-4 lab in mainland China. He suspects that the expansion there is a reaction to the networks in the United States and Europe, which he says are also unwarranted. He adds that governments will assume that such excess capacity is for the potential development of bioweapons. “These facilities are inherently dual use,” he says. The prospect of ramping up opportunities to inject monkeys with pathogens also worries, rather than excites, him: “They can run, they can scratch, they can bite.”Trevan says China’s investment in a BSL-4 lab may, above all, be a way to prove to the world that the nation is competitive. “It is a big status symbol in biology,” he says, “whether it’s a need or not.
They were handling BSL-4 pathogens and using BSL-2 measures, as per recent accounts. Though official versions cant be trusted. And malice is usually cloaked in stupidity.
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Re: So how did this virus originate? [Re: cannabinated]
#26582070 - 04/06/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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