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Panaeolus papilionaceus seems to be more common and looks pretty similar to me, if that’s the case it’s a huge bummer because I can’t find any accounts of them being psychoactive, but the bruising is still keeping my hopes up. I guess the ultimate test will be to actually sample them and report back :/
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Re: Cyanescens? (moved) [Re: Godseed313] 1
#26593274 - 04/11/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Unless you put it under a microscope it won't. The prints will be black. To get any closer than "panaeolus cyanescens group", you'd need microscopy.
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What you have is panaeolus cyanescens group. It could be pan.cyanescens, pan.tropicalis, pan.cambodginiensis or even bisporus. Those species needs to be separated by microscopy. They're all very potent, though. Panaeolus papilionaceus doesn't really look like them. You'll be able to tell them apart first time you've picked them both.
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The main lawn dwelling active panaeolus mushrooms would be fimicola and olivaceus. On rare occasions paneaolus cyanescens have been found in a fertilized yard, but when I say rare, I mean rare.
The stem size thing I’ve found to be rather inacurate.
Here’s an example of pan. Olivaceus blueing. Notice they call the species Panaeolus castaneifolius, which is now considered olivaceus(somebody correct me if I’m wrong on this).
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8330594/fpart/all/vc/1
Notice the thin stem and blue staining.
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Re: Cyanescens? (moved) [Re: lowbrow]
#26593913 - 04/11/20 05:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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These aren't fimicolas or olivaceus. Not even close. Well, they are panaeolus as well, of course, but not copelandia. What Godseed found here is a copelandia. They don't bruise blue but they might have a blue foot (if you're lucky). Panaeolus olivaceus and panaeolus castaneifolius are concidered synonyms. Panaeolina castaneifolia is a different species with brown spores. A lot of confusion going on here... Hehehe.
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I see blueing but nothing Ive never seen with active lawn pans.
You’re speaking in absolutes with lawn pans. There are no absolutes with lawn pans., just rules of thumb, and they are not set in stone.
I think I’ll wait for a TI.
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Re: Cyanescens? (moved) [Re: lowbrow]
#26594051 - 04/11/20 06:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pm this thread to one.
Edited by Psilosadhu (04/11/20 06:54 PM)
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Re: Cyanescens? (moved) [Re: Psilosadhu] 2
#26594094 - 04/11/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Copelandia, I could guess at species but I won’t
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Quote:
doctorghosty said: Copelandia, I could guess at species but I won’t
Thank you for mediating. What kind of drawing(artwise) do you want? Content, subject matter, ect...
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Re: Cyanescens? (moved) [Re: lowbrow]
#26594131 - 04/11/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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No prob, let me think on that a sec and I’ll get back at ya
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doctorghosty said: Copelandia, I could guess at species but I won’t
Thank you for mediating. What kind of drawing(artwise) do you want? Content, subject matter, ect...
How about an owl and a red fox high fiving?
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Realistic or cartoon?
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Re: Cyanescens? (moved) [Re: lowbrow]
#26595558 - 04/12/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cartoon, but kinda fucked up cartoons like Ren & Stimpy or Ratfink?
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Re: Cyanescens? (moved) [Re: lowbrow]
#26609173 - 04/17/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well I gave them a test run earlier, definitely active, literally ate 1 dried sample, a single fruit and it’s seemingly a much more clear and lucid experience. Granted I just took a small sample, but 30+ mins in I began feeling extremely euphoric and laughter felt amazing ha.
I’m curious to go even deeper now with them, couldn’t find my scale so I’ll grab another and figure out exactly how much dried I’m even taking, but the initial test run was very promising, no nausea, just an extreme feeling of euphoria almost like low-dose MDMA with giggling and laughter thrown in, very nice body-high as well, cheers guys thanks for all the info. Keep up the good work!
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