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Godseed313 said: Hell ya, you think Pan Cyan? They should be considerably more potent than Cubensis then? Or is it kinda up in the air until I test them? I’ll prob start with like a .5 gram dry or less for a test run. I have 6 prints going right now. Prob toss them in the dehydrator and sample them tonight and report back.
Definitely Pan cyans in the second set of pics. Nice find!
And yes they are more potent by weight than cubes. I recommend eating them wet if possible. If you dry them, dry them on Low.
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Ok cool, good to know, I was expecting quicker flushes from them, I feel fortunate to even gather the ones that popped up
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I don’t think those are cyanascens, those look like potent lawn pans. The chances of finding cyanascens in a lawn is very low. I have found lawn pans that look like those.
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Re: Cyanescens? (moved) [Re: lowbrow] 1
#26592010 - 04/10/20 08:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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What do you concider "lawn pans"? Cinctulus? They don't look like that mate.
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Re: Cyanescens? (moved) [Re: lowbrow]
#26592018 - 04/10/20 08:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: I don’t think those are cyanascens, those look like potent lawn pawns. The chances of finding cyanascens in a lawn is very low. I have found lawn pans that look like those.

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#26592035 - 04/10/20 08:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The waters got muddied on species awhile back. Those could be Panaeolus bisporus, or Panaeolus olivaceus. Finding panaeolus cyanescen growing in a lawn would be an anomally of the highest order.
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Re: Cyanescens? (moved) [Re: lowbrow]
#26592059 - 04/10/20 08:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Bisporus, maybe, but that one's in the cyanescens group. Olivaceus doesn't even come close.
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Re: Cyanescens? (moved) [Re: lowbrow]
#26592198 - 04/10/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Where does he mention a lawn thou? I cant find it anywhere....
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Godseed313 said: Ah, awesome thanks for the info, this morning was quite a surprise when I got up and found the yard full of what I believe to be Panaeolus subbalteatus or Cinctulus, I’ll post some pics in a bit. These are most definitely a species of Pans and are bruising very dark blue to lighter blue. Also taking some prints if anyone is interested!
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Psilosadhu said: Bisporus, maybe, but that one's in the cyanescens group. Olivaceus doesn't even come close.
Why not olivaceus?
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Re: Cyanescens? (moved) [Re: lowbrow]
#26592243 - 04/10/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice! I see it now.
Hmmmm,,, That is weird. Maybe he lives on a large property with cows 
Ive seen Pan cyans grow on grass but its usually enriched with cow manure that's not visible.
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He doesn't say it's his lawn. A grassy area with loads of deer. Don't think they grow from deer droppings, but the grass could've been fertilized with cattle manure.
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What kind of terrain was the panaeolus located? Was it well fertilized? Transversed by cattle?
Any information would be helpful please.
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Why not olivaceus?
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Re: Cyanescens? (moved) [Re: lowbrow]
#26592273 - 04/10/20 10:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Olivaceus doesn't stain blue. It's usually inactive as well. He already said that there's no cattle there, just a lot of deers. But it might be fertilized.
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Psilosadhu said: Olivaceus doesn't stain blue. It's usually inactive as well. He already said that there's no cattle there, just a lot of deers. But it might be fertilized.
Panaeolus olivaceus has been visually documented bruising blue. I personally have seen suspected olivaceus already stained blue when I picked them out of a lawn and they were dead ringers for the ones in the picture. All the pans in the op’s pictures look like what Ive picked out of lawns.
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#26592330 - 04/10/20 10:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Olivaceus won't bruise at all, but do please show me a picture. Cinctulus can be bruise, but not very common. They look quite different from these, though.
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Yes they were in the lawn, so it is possible that manure enriched with cattle dung has been used at some point, but as far as free-roaming cattle there are zero in the hood, just tons of deer.
I’m assuming at some point some fertilizer was used that spread the spores, also up on a hill so I don’t know if that terrain configuration contributes to the diversity of spores landing because in just the 1 morning I found 6-7 diff species all growing in the yard after some heavy rains off and on for weeks, Pleated Inky caps abundantly in the mulch, Inocybes, Boletus, some other spongy gilled large red-staining species, etc.
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Re: Cyanescens? (moved) [Re: lowbrow]
#26592942 - 04/11/20 08:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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From what I’ve read Olivaceus has a thicker stem, these have pretty thin, straight, fairly fragile stems with more of a grayish coloration and dome top, Haven’t had a chance to sample them yet but am excited since they are clearly some form of Pan which I’ve never had the luxury of experiencing
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Hm, after looking at Bisporus I can definitely see the similarities, it seems like a very rare find if this is true, don’t want to be too specific but they were found in the Southern area, U.S.
Edit: The prints should be about ready too, I’ll update with those if I got some decent ones, maybe that will help narrow it down some more.
Edited by Godseed313 (04/11/20 08:25 AM)
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