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Asclepius
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Covid-19 Masks 1
#26581229 - 04/06/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've been searching high and low for the following: N95, R95, P95, N99 and N100. Most trusted retailers do not have them in stock, and those who do are allocating them to hospitals (which I understand). I knew this thing was a bioaerosol but didn't realize it stays in the air of interior spaces for up to 3 hours. I'm still working as I am considered an essential worker. I'm basically screwed if I come into contact with someone who has it because I have no access to PPE, and there are already multiple cases of infections in the community where I live.
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Re: Covid-19 Masks [Re: Asclepius] 1
#26581256 - 04/06/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Where do you live?
Most places, like for instance in all of Canada, they are telling us NOT to use N95 or any other real face mask because there is such a shortage they should be saved for medical workers.
Their suggestion is to make face masks out of cloth material. It will work apparently enough.
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Re: Covid-19 Masks [Re: Asclepius] 8
#26581259 - 04/06/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Normal surgical mask will suffice if you can’t get ahold of a graded one, Better than nothing. 
If you have a comorbidity that makes you high risk for mortality when infected by covid19, Or live with those who are, or are over 55, I’d try and get a box of graded masks.
Or you can try wearing a bicycle helmet, or holding your breath. That’s what my dog advises.
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Re: Covid-19 Masks [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26581320 - 04/06/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said: Where do you live?
Most places, like for instance in all of Canada, they are telling us NOT to use N95 or any other real face mask because there is such a shortage they should be saved for medical workers.
Their suggestion is to make face masks out of cloth material. It will work apparently enough.

Our officials have given out terrible advice. If Canadian medical workers do not have masks, even after we dealt with SARs in 2003 that is the fault of the Canadian government, not me buying masks off amazon. I bought my masks while Chief Public Health Officer of Canada Theresa Tam told everyone the risk to Canadians was "low". Listening to these morons could get you killed. Now they don't want people hording that Lupus drug so they are repeating the mantra it's "unproven." The truth is they are stockpiling it for hospitals.
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Re: Covid-19 Masks [Re: blackhawk] 5
#26581388 - 04/06/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have one N95 mask that I sterilize in the oven. I literally had one that I got last year when I was working with spray paints, the filter may or may not be expired, idk. I know you're not supposed to have n95s, so I wear a scarf over it. Don't want to ruffle some insane person's feathers or anything like that.
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sh4d0ws said: Where do you live?
Most places, like for instance in all of Canada, they are telling us NOT to use N95 or any other real face mask because there is such a shortage they should be saved for medical workers.
Their suggestion is to make face masks out of cloth material. It will work apparently enough.

Our officials have given out terrible advice. If Canadian medical workers do not have masks, even after we dealt with SARs in 2003 that is the fault of the Canadian government, not me buying masks off amazon. I bought my masks while Chief Public Health Officer of Canada Theresa Tam told everyone the risk to Canadians was "low". Listening to these morons could get you killed. Now they don't want people hording that Lupus drug so they are repeating the mantra it's "unproven." The truth is they are stockpiling it for hospitals.
The American government is literally outbidding states who are desperately trying to get supplies. It's fucked. Our national stockpile was completely drained, our team that is supposed to deal with Pandemics was fired in 2018 - even though we've been overdue for a pandemic for a little while now, and are still overdue for an influenza pandemic.
Just a huge mess. There are going to be so many people who die who didn't have to.
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Re: Covid-19 Masks [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26581476 - 04/06/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said: Where do you live?
Most places, like for instance in all of Canada, they are telling us NOT to use N95 or any other real face mask because there is such a shortage they should be saved for medical workers.
Their suggestion is to make face masks out of cloth material. It will work apparently enough.

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Mask, N95 respirator filtering performance Following a recommendation that cloth masks be explored for use in healthcare settings during the next influenza pandemic,3 The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) conducted a study of the filter performance on clothing materials and articles, including commercial cloth masks marketed for air pollution and allergens, sweatshirts, t-shirts, and scarfs.4
Filter efficiency was measured across a wide range of small particle sizes (0.02 to 1 µm) at 33 and 99 L/min. N95 respirators had efficiencies greater than 95% (as expected). For the entire range of particles tested, t-shirts had 10% efficiency, scarves 10% to 20%, cloth masks 10% to 30%, sweatshirts 20% to 40%, and towels 40%. All of the cloth masks and materials had near zero efficiency at 0.3 µm, a particle size that easily penetrates into the lungs.4
Another study evaluated 44 masks, respirators, and other materials with similar methods and small aerosols (0.08 and 0.22 µm).5 N95 FFR filter efficiency was greater than 95%. Medical masks exhibited 55% efficiency, general masks 38% and handkerchiefs 2% (one layer) to 13% (four layers).
These studies demonstrate that cloth or homemade masks will have very low filter efficiency (2% to 38%). Medical masks are made from a wide range of materials, and studies have found a wide range of filter efficiency (2% to 98%), with most exhibiting 30% to 50% efficiency.6-12
We reviewed other filter efficiency studies of makeshift cloth masks made with various materials. Limitations included challenge aerosols that were poorly characterized13 or too large14-16 or flow rates that were too low.17
Source: http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/commentary-masks-all-covid-19-not-based-sound-data
It seems the jury is no longer out on the efficacy of certain masks.
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pirate-blues said:The American government is literally outbidding states who are desperately trying to get supplies. It's fucked. Our national stockpile was completely drained, our team that is supposed to deal with Pandemics was fired in 2018 - even though we've been overdue for a pandemic for a little while now, and are still overdue for an influenza pandemic.
Just a huge mess. There are going to be so many people who die who didn't have to.
The Obama administration dropped the ball as well after H1N1. PPE companies had to hire hundreds of people and buy a bunch of equipment to ramp up production, then once things settled down the hospitals went back to buying from China and the federal gov basically just said "K Thanks, bye." The companies were left mainly with tons of layoffs and debt, and are now weary of ramping production to those levels again and getting fucked, again (especially with Trump/Kushner in charge)
The whole system is fucked. We spend $700 billion a year on the military when there's virtually no current threats on our homeland, but we let ourselves be totally susceptible to health crises that could wipe out millions.
I have a feeling blue states will not be getting a whole lot of federal help, particularly since it's an election year. The feds are literally intercepting and hijacking shipments destined to Boston, and overriding the orders we send to our distributors to direct them to federal warehouses instead. The MA governor reached out to the owner of the NE patriots, who then literally sent the team private jet to China and filled it to the brim with masks, to distribute between MA, RI, and NYC and circumvent the federal government's theft. Things are getting wild, how the fuck did we not have a plan in place for this?
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Re: Covid-19 Masks [Re: feevers]
#26581733 - 04/06/20 01:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Because the man holding the highest office in the land is an actual king baby. 0 nobility or honor in his blood.
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Aaaaand, Boris Johnson is in the ICU.
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Whoops wrong thread, meant to post that in the other COVID thread.
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Yeah the American-Uk heads...what if they both end up taken out? Or seriously debilitated from covid19 and can’t run the countries into the dark ages anymore?
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Re: Covid-19 Masks [Re: Asclepius] 2
#26581870 - 04/06/20 02:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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You might be able to make this. I did, seems to work, makes my face red but all the n95+ masks do to me unless there's a gasket
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Re: Covid-19 Masks [Re: Asclepius] 1
#26581997 - 04/06/20 03:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Im in a similar situation. Limited selection in mask material.
Its time to improvize.
I would recommnd uaing coffee filters in layers and holding it to your face with a bandana. Or cut up a HEPA vacuum bag or filter and use that material.
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The 2nd wave is what killed most young people during the Spanish Flu.
Build up your antibodies now on the first weak wave before you die from the killer second wave.
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LogicaL Chaos said: Im in a similar situation. Limited selection in mask material.
Its time to improvize.
I would recommnd uaing coffee filters in layers and holding it to your face with a bandana. Or cut up a HEPA vacuum bag or filter and use that material.
I second this if you can get a hold of hepa vacuum cleaner bags they can be used to make masks. Hvac filter material can also be used although you may need to layer it.
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PumpJackTeX said: The 2nd wave is what killed most young people during the Spanish Flu.
Build up your antibodies now on the first weak wave before you die from the killer second wave.
Are you suggesting that young people should deliberately infect themselves with SARS-CoV-2? If so, that's a really bad idea.
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Re: Covid-19 Masks [Re: Asclepius] 2
#26582173 - 04/06/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, I'm low risk(afaik, at least) and while I am concerned about a repeat of The Spanish Flu, I am in absolutely noooooo rush to get this. I don't want to get it at all, but if I had to choose, I'd rather get infected after the medical and science community understands what we're dealing with a little better and how to treat it more effectively.
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PumpJackTeX said: The 2nd wave is what killed most young people during the Spanish Flu.
Build up your antibodies now on the first weak wave before you die from the killer second wave.
Are you suggesting that young people should deliberately infect themselves with SARS-CoV?
Yes.
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You should at least consider several of the negative scenarios doing something like that could potentially produce: 1) They might not be able to fight it off, even if they are healthy, 2) they could pass it on to loved ones or complete strangers, unintentionally, 3) they would put an undue strain on the already overburdened healthcare workers combating this disease, and 4) they would aid in the speed at which the virus mutates, potentially for the worse.
Get imaginative, there are many other reasons why your suggestion is a bad idea. Even if you are trolling, and I hope you are, some people might actually do something stupid by hearing you say what you just did.
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It is possible to build your immunity from the 1st wave without affecting others.
Alot of my friends and family live in the country side of Texas.
The whole god damn nation does not live in NYC asshole.
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Where did you receive your medical degree? Because you are advocating for something that the overwhelming majority of doctors do not. Let me guess...
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NotBTeleVised17 said: You might be able to make this. I did, seems to work, makes my face red but all the n95+ masks do to me unless there's a gasket
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Re: Covid-19 Masks [Re: blackhawk] 1
#26583255 - 04/07/20 04:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dude these things hurt so badly.
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Re: Covid-19 Masks [Re: Maverick]
#26583333 - 04/07/20 06:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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A durable option would be to look into getting an actual gas mask.
I've used n95 masks for shoveling dry dusty soil before and they kind of suck anyway.
Can get surplus Israeli civilian gas mask for 40 to 70 bucks. Filters rated 99.99%
Lookup 40mm NATO filters. They last for 8 to 10 hours I believe and run between 20 and 40 bucks for replacements. Cheaper if you buy in bulk. Just make sure you get new filters.
The mask fits tight around the face and provides eye protection, too.
Also has a place to attach water bottle so you can hydrate without taking the mask off.
The eyes don't fog up either because there is a valve that opens to exhaust your breath and it closes to inhale.
Depending on how often you would need to wear it, could quickly become cost prohibitive @ 20 to 40 bucks per 8 hour shift if you need it the entire time. But it is an option.
Hopefully it'll only be a few more weeks until things start clearing up for most of us.
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Right around 31m or so, he goes into how these shop towels have been outperforming other materials being tested.
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Re: Covid-19 Masks [Re: HamHead]
#26583736 - 04/07/20 10:59 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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What about micropore tape in combination with that?
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