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Composting spent subs
    #26577209 - 04/04/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Hey Shroomers,

There were a few threads about throwing out mushroom waste, but has anyone tried composting? I heard that worms don't really like coco coir, but I was wondering if the mycelium  eats it would it be different?
I have large pile of spent subs in the garden and want to make good quality compost (maybe living soil) for my canna plants.
I heard that mushroom subs are really good for plants. Have you tried to use it? I haven't got much experience composting, most of my life I lived in a city :laugh: I only know indoor gardening lol:D


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Re: Composting spent subs [Re: eLeSDenes]
    #26577227 - 04/04/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I have no experience in it but I know mushroom compost is expensive
and considered to be the best in permaculture


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Re: Composting spent subs [Re: rumfor69] * 1
    #26577264 - 04/04/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

To make a low maintenance compost pile, it needs to be 3x3x3 for the microbes to do their thing. I like to make mine 5x5x5. In a shady spot, take a piece of 5' metal fencing, make a 5' circle. Fill with roughly 3" alternating layers of brown carbons (leaves, twigs, mulch, older wood chips, etc) and green nitrogen (grass clippings, kitchen waste, etc) no meat, no dairy.

This needs no water, no turning. You can constantly add to this without it getting full.

The problem, for me at least, is rodents and grain. They love my spent tubs. My plan is to fortify my compost fencing with hardware cloth to keep them out. It's on my list.


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Re: Composting spent subs [Re: LadysKnight]
    #26577272 - 04/04/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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To make a low maintenance compost pile, it needs to be 3x3x3 for the microbes to do their thing. I like to make mine 5x5x5. In a shady spot, take a piece of 5' metal fencing, make a 5' circle. Fill with roughly 3" alternating layers of brown carbons (leaves, twigs, mulch, older wood chips, etc) and green nitrogen (grass clippings, kitchen waste, etc) no meat, no dairy.

This needs no water, no turning. You can constantly add to this without it getting full.

The problem, for me at least, is rodents and grain. They love my spent tubs. My plan is to fortify my compost fencing with hardware cloth to keep them out. It's on my list.





Thanks for answering I will try what you do.  Do you use worms ? Can they eat spent coir?


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Re: Composting spent subs [Re: eLeSDenes]
    #26577398 - 04/04/20 02:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Worms love spent subs, it all turns to black gold.I use worms, maggots and everything else that comes to turn my waste into compost, I don't add anything except more material.


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Re: Composting spent subs [Re: LadysKnight]
    #26577687 - 04/04/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So if you're always adding to the top of this fence circle how do you get
the compost out when it's ready?


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Re: Composting spent subs [Re: rumfor69]
    #26581002 - 04/06/20 04:26 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

We have a pile like that in our veggie garden. Just take it apart every spring, remove the uncomposted material from the top and use the compost in the garden. Another alternative is to have some kind of door on the bottom.


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Re: Composting spent subs [Re: rumfor69]
    #26581009 - 04/06/20 04:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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So if you're always adding to the top of this fence circle how do you get
the compost out when it's ready?





You stop when it's full and then dig it out after it's all composted.


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Re: Composting spent subs [Re: Babylon]
    #26581014 - 04/06/20 04:39 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Makes sense. Seems kinda obvious now lol but I figured I'd ask.


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Re: Composting spent subs [Re: rumfor69]
    #26581026 - 04/06/20 04:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The most obvious stuff is always the hardest to figure out.


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Re: Composting spent subs [Re: Babylon]
    #26581038 - 04/06/20 05:20 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I’ve started doing the same thing.  I went to tractor supply and got the tumbler one.  Fill it up and turn it once a week.  We’ve got crap soil so, hard to get something going for the wife to have her garden.


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Re: Composting spent subs [Re: Jarhead3521]
    #26581086 - 04/06/20 06:21 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not sure where you live, but the best way to solve that is to get a farmer to deliver a trailer of manure. Shovel it into your garden. If it was already standing for some time, you can start gardening immediatelly, otherwise, let it rest for a year.


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Re: Composting spent subs [Re: poisoned]
    #26581097 - 04/06/20 06:44 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I’ve already brought in topsoil, and one of the counties has a compost site they sell it cheap, like $8/yd.  I’ve got several farms in the family, poo is no problem, we’ve added our chicken poo to it from cleaning out the coop already.  I’ve got to fix my pto rototiller and I’ll be in business next year for bigger garden, but she’s got a smaller 8x12 this year.


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Re: Composting spent subs [Re: Jarhead3521]
    #26581102 - 04/06/20 06:51 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So what is the minimum time you need to let the compost to rot?
Would I be able to use the compost with indoor plants straight away or do I need to treat it in some way (like pasteurisation to get rid of bugs)?


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Re: Composting spent subs [Re: eLeSDenes]
    #26581141 - 04/06/20 07:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

When it comes out as dirt, you can use it as is


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Re: Composting spent subs [Re: poisoned]
    #26581154 - 04/06/20 07:42 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So as far as I understand, there are two methods - layering and rotating.
What are the benefits of both?
If I use layering, would I be able to use compost from the bottom? Can you easily 'access' the bottom?


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Re: Composting spent subs [Re: eLeSDenes] * 1
    #26581172 - 04/06/20 07:57 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I've only ever done layering. The bottom access depends on how you build it/what you buy.

That's what I have at home:


so, no easy access, you just take it apart once a year and use whatever is composted. Some people use 2 piles like this and just switch between them each year.

You can build it like this:

And you'll be able to remove a board or two at the bottom to access it.

Btw, I don't even care about layering. I just pile everything on there as it comes. I guess with proper layering, the process is faster. Relatively quickly, the worms start living in there too to help with the decomposition.


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Re: Composting spent subs [Re: poisoned]
    #26584292 - 04/07/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks man very useful information! I think I'll get one of these.


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