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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #26578118 - 04/04/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Found some info on it.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #26578395 - 04/04/20 11:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I'd like proof those people they sealed away didn't die.



You don't even have proof it happened....



I saw the videos. I didn't see them delivering food to the sealed apartments.



You didn't see anyone dying either.  Here's a video of a reporter talking to one of the people that got sealed in an apartment.  Listen from 0:50 - 1:30:



Journalist:  You can't go out, right?
Mr. Pan:  Right.  The door is nailed shut completely.
Journalist:  Do they deliver the groceries?
Mr. Pan:  There are two separate issues.  The first one is that the food is quite expensive.  Second, where does money or finance come from?

So they were clearly able to get food delivery.  They just needed some help to pay for it.

Are you done make believing yet?


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26578426 - 04/05/20 12:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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specialpeopleclub said:
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Sulfurshelfsean said:
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specialpeopleclub said:
I'd like proof those people they sealed away didn't die.



You don't even have proof it happened....



I saw the videos. I didn't see them delivering food to the sealed apartments.



You didn't see anyone dying either.  Here's a video of a reporter talking to one of the people that got sealed in an apartment.  Listen from 0:50 - 1:30:



Journalist:  You can't go out, right?
Mr. Pan:  Right.  The door is nailed shut completely.
Journalist:  Do they deliver the groceries?
Mr. Pan:  There are two separate issues.  The first one is that the food is quite expensive.  Second, where does money or finance come from?

So they were clearly able to get food delivery.  They just needed some help to pay for it.

Are you done make believing yet?





20,000,000 missing cell phones.

Your the one choosing an optimistic bias and extrapolating this experiance. I think it's probably worse then we know here. There is no way China is less infected than italy.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #26578440 - 04/05/20 12:15 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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specialpeopleclub said:
20,000,000 missing cell phones.

Your the one choosing an optimistic bias and extrapolating this experiance. I think it's probably worse then we know here. There is no way China is less infected than italy.



Here we go again.  "Yeah, maybe I was make believing about the last issue, but what about this other issue that you haven't even had an opportunity to agree or disagree with?"

Well actually according to the Associated Press:

Drop in cellphone users in China wrongly attributed to coronavirus deaths
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AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The decline in cellphone users is not linked to the number of people who died after being infected with coronavirus. Major cellphone carriers in China attributed the drop to people with multiple phone numbers canceling some service during the outbreak.




Are you done make believing yet?


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26578458 - 04/05/20 12:31 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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specialpeopleclub said:
20,000,000 missing cell phones.

Your the one choosing an optimistic bias and extrapolating this experiance. I think it's probably worse then we know here. There is no way China is less infected than italy.



Here we go again.  "Yeah, maybe I was make believing about the last issue, but what about this other issue that you haven't even had an opportunity to agree or disagree with?"

Well actually according to the Associated Press:

Drop in cellphone users in China wrongly attributed to coronavirus deaths
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AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The decline in cellphone users is not linked to the number of people who died after being infected with coronavirus. Major cellphone carriers in China attributed the drop to people with multiple phone numbers canceling some service during the outbreak.




Are you done make believing yet?



It's a Chinese source. An appointment article, Chinese sources.
Bad excuses too
:whatever: :lol:


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #26578469 - 04/05/20 12:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The Associated Press is a Chinese source?


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26578560 - 04/05/20 01:50 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, China bought it while Trump was golfing. Same time they bought the WHO.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Kryptos] * 3
    #26578679 - 04/05/20 03:57 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

China Is Censoring Coronavirus Stories. These Citizens Are Fighting Back





china orders 200,000 body bags



Wuhan funeral home staffer reveals real death toll of coronavirus



Wuhan woman says coronavirus patients cremated alive; Over 1000 Hubei police infected with virus




Real CCP virus infection cases are 20 times higher than officially reported, leaked documents reveal



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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #26578843 - 04/05/20 07:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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specialpeopleclub said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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specialpeopleclub said:
20,000,000 missing cell phones.

Your the one choosing an optimistic bias and extrapolating this experiance. I think it's probably worse then we know here. There is no way China is less infected than italy.



Here we go again.  "Yeah, maybe I was make believing about the last issue, but what about this other issue that you haven't even had an opportunity to agree or disagree with?"

Well actually according to the Associated Press:

Drop in cellphone users in China wrongly attributed to coronavirus deaths
Quote:

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The decline in cellphone users is not linked to the number of people who died after being infected with coronavirus. Major cellphone carriers in China attributed the drop to people with multiple phone numbers canceling some service during the outbreak.




Are you done make believing yet?



It's a Chinese source. An appointment article, Chinese sources.
Bad excuses too
:whatever: :lol:



Is that you Hostile Universe?


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: 1uptoadstool]
    #26579438 - 04/05/20 12:44 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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1uptoadstool said:
China Is Censoring Coronavirus Stories. These Citizens Are Fighting Back





china orders 200,000 body bags



Wuhan funeral home staffer reveals real death toll of coronavirus



Wuhan woman says coronavirus patients cremated alive; Over 1000 Hubei police infected with virus




Real CCP virus infection cases are 20 times higher than officially reported, leaked documents reveal





I don't think too many here are going to watch an hour and a half worth of videos.

Is there any evidence of anything interesting here that we haven't heard before?


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26580251 - 04/05/20 07:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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specialpeopleclub said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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specialpeopleclub said:
20,000,000 missing cell phones.

Your the one choosing an optimistic bias and extrapolating this experiance. I think it's probably worse then we know here. There is no way China is less infected than italy.



Here we go again.  "Yeah, maybe I was make believing about the last issue, but what about this other issue that you haven't even had an opportunity to agree or disagree with?"

Well actually according to the Associated Press:

Drop in cellphone users in China wrongly attributed to coronavirus deaths
Quote:

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The decline in cellphone users is not linked to the number of people who died after being infected with coronavirus. Major cellphone carriers in China attributed the drop to people with multiple phone numbers canceling some service during the outbreak.




Are you done make believing yet?



It's a Chinese source. An appointment article, Chinese sources.
Bad excuses too
:whatever: :lol:



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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
The Associated Press is a Chinese source?



In the article it says

 A representative with China Mobile Ltd. said while the situation was related to the COVID-19 outbreak, it was not related to deaths, but changes in lifestyle. I'm so sure.

All the responses inn that article are from the Chinese government

There is Chinese truck drivers saying their still dilevring thousands of urns and now there's pictures of PALLETS of urns amid the claim of 2,500 deaths

https://www.the-sun.com/news/618241/stacks-of-coronavirus-urns-and-queues-for-ashes-at-crematorium-cast-more-doubt-on-chinas-official-death-toll-of-2500/

They also already re opened wet markets. The Chinese are lying through their teeth and you shouldn't be so trusting when things don't add up.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26580259 - 04/05/20 07:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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The Associated Press is a Chinese source?




In the article the sources are Chinese sources and the Chinese companies. The AP isn't a 'source', they said what they were told by more suspect people and companies.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #26580442 - 04/05/20 08:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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There is Chinese truck drivers saying their still dilevring thousands of urns and now there's pictures of PALLETS of urns amid the claim of 2,500 deaths



That doesn't mean they all died from the virus. The funeral homes were closed down for during the lockdown so those are for all people who died during that time. At least that's their explanation. :shrug:


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Kizzle]
    #26580470 - 04/05/20 08:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Dude, be quiet. Our economy runs on dead soldiers, and we may well have to bomb yellow people in the name of our 401(k)s soon.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #26580515 - 04/05/20 09:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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There is Chinese truck drivers saying their still dilevring thousands of urns and now there's pictures of PALLETS of urns amid the claim of 2,500 deaths

https://www.the-sun.com/news/618241/stacks-of-coronavirus-urns-and-queues-for-ashes-at-crematorium-cast-more-doubt-on-chinas-official-death-toll-of-2500/



So now you're taking the word of a tabloid over the Associated Press?  The AP doesn't just post anything that gets submitted.  It vets the information to ensure it is credible.

Here's some other things from The Sun:



A tabloid's goal is to get as many clicks as possible, not to be the most accurate.

I won't even say your claim is impossible; maybe the Chinese are covering some of the deaths up.  But the photos don't prove a thing, as Kizzle already noted.  China is a country with well over a billion people, and people die there for many reasons, and large funeral homes may store urns (I'm sure they don't go bad a after a few months).

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They also already re opened wet markets. The Chinese are lying through their teeth and you shouldn't be so trusting when things don't add up.



Here we go again.  "Maybe I was make believing about the last topic, but here's a new topic that I hope distracts everyone from the original.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26580524 - 04/05/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I don;t see what's so bad about wet markets. I went to a wet market today. Except it had fake plastic grass and a sign that said "Deli".

I guess it also had a much smaller selection of meats. I can't find any decent lamb or goat. Or alligator. At least the Chinese place up the road has me covered on seafood.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26580653 - 04/05/20 10:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I don't think too many here are going to watch an hour and a half worth of videos.

Is there any evidence of anything interesting here that we haven't heard before?
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the whole channel is interesting it's called China in focus. I just got done watching a segment on organ harvesting lol


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: 1uptoadstool]
    #26580667 - 04/05/20 10:19 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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the whole channel is interesting it's called China in focus. I just got done watching a segment on organ harvesting



Is it About how China puts the organs of executed prisoners to good use?


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26580768 - 04/05/20 11:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The prisoners they execute to take organs from? Not all of them are from dead people either. And China has the most active death penalty in the world, remember.


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Re: China steps up as global leader against coronavirus [Re: Eminence]
    #26580799 - 04/05/20 11:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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The prisoners they execute to take organs from? Not all of them are from dead people either. And China has the most active death penalty in the world, remember.



Yes, I realize China has the most active death penalty in the world.

What evidence do you have that they harvest organs from the living?


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