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    #26579350 - 04/05/20 12:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Hello All,

First time grow help needed- Greatly appreciate how helpful everyone is on these forums and wouldn't have gotten this far without you all. Strictly following BOD's Teks- Each 54q Sterilite tub has 6q grain spawn (PE Uncut) with 650g coco coir. The grain spawn looked as great as expected upon transfer to substrate. Since transferring 8 days ago, things have continued to look on track according to other progress photos on here. The lid stays upside down for passive airflow, light throughout the day, and the only times the tub is touched is for twice daily misting.

However, today on Day 8 there are several small (1/8") localized blue green spots forming throughout the tub. No bad smell, just these visual signs shown in photos. Is this early signs of Trich or Penicillium? Or does it look fine?




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Re: Early Signs of Trich? Or Looks Good? [Re: Sporesight]
    #26579356 - 04/05/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Looks like bruising to me. I think your sub is a bit dry


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Re: Early Signs of Trich? Or Looks Good? [Re: poisoned]
    #26579417 - 04/05/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks! Found this thread and the signs look similar to what you suggest


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Re: Early Signs of Trich? Or Looks Good? [Re: Sporesight]
    #26579499 - 04/05/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Is that an unmod tub with lid flipped


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Re: Early Signs of Trich? Or Looks Good? [Re: shevanel]
    #26579522 - 04/05/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, following BOD's unmod tub tek


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Re: Early Signs of Trich? Or Looks Good? [Re: Sporesight]
    #26579857 - 04/05/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Are you using a fan and how often do you have to mist the surface


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Re: Early Signs of Trich? Or Looks Good? [Re: shevanel]
    #26580421 - 04/05/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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This tub fruiting method is extremely low maintenance. No fanning is required, mist if needed, which will be infrequently. Some occasions I find I have to actually remove the lid because the surface is too moist, other times the corners get a little dry and need a light misting. If you can brush your teeth at home you have more than enough time to visit a tub once or twice during fruiting.




Following the tek exactly as written, though if these are signs of bruising then more misting may be needed. What are your thoughts of what's shown in the photos?


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RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: Sporesight]
    #26605744 - 04/16/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

First pins of first grow! :smile: Counted only a handful of pins but still excited as this is the first grow and exactly 10 weeks have passed since bags were inoculated with spore syringe of PE Uncut. Today is Day 19 after spawn transfer to substrate with BOD's  Bucket TEK and Unmodified Tub TEK. Used 6 quarts grain spawn and 650g coir per 54q tub.




Since previous concerns were shared a couple weeks ago of blue bruising spots there has been more frequent misting (3-4 times a day, up from twice/day) in attempt to give more consistent surface conditions and prevent drying. Tried best to keep surface level throughout the tubs, but to counter any periodic pooling of water the tub does get tilted for a few seconds in order to let the water slide to other areas in the tub. However, yellow areas continue to grow and more bruising occurs. Indoor temp consistently stays at ~75F with humidity at ~30%. Still concerned this first flush may be weak -  willing to put more effort and change technique for a better outcome. Thoughts/advice?




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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: Sporesight]
    #26605763 - 04/16/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Casing a PE tub is quite the norm however i see pins and lots of knots so ill go sit over there.

Yells from across the room: the surface is dry af!


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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: shevanel]
    #26605795 - 04/16/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for pointing that out, in agreement with you on the casing, as this important detail from BOD's TEK was overlooked when transferring spawn to substrate
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I almost never use a casing layer myself, On occasion I will use a top layer of coir 1/8-1/4 inch thick. With varieties like PE that take a bit longer to pin this can aid some people in keeping conditions good. The top layer of coir is more of a pesudocasing


Should have at least added a top layer it seems :frown: Any harm or benefit in adding thin layer at this point?

It's PE Uncut, that's what was ordered and labeled at least. These pins do look similar to other PE Uncut photos seen on here.


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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: Sporesight]
    #26605802 - 04/16/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You can case it now with just FC coir. Itll help those knots out and keep the surface from drying out or at least enough to maintain pre-flush microclimate . Especially since youve been having problems with it drying out.


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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: shevanel] * 1
    #26605882 - 04/16/20 01:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Well I guess peu doesn’t blob!


I think your coir might’ve been made a little too dry when spawning the tub, bottom water might help but I’m not sure.

Overall it looks good especially for a first time.

Since the surface is drying out you should try to cut down on the air a little, especially if you’re misting up to 4 times a day.

Also next time adding a top layer of coir when you make the tub helps a lot with keeping conditions good.


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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: shevanel]
    #26605894 - 04/16/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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You can case it now with just FC coir. Itll help those knots out and keep the surface from drying out or at least enough to maintain pre-flush microclimate . Especially since youve been having problems with it drying out.




Perfect, all done. Thank you for the advice and help! Will post again soon with more progress photos.


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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: Sporesight]
    #26605907 - 04/16/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Dont let that newly added top layer dry out. Mist  when new coir turns a lighter brown color etc fyi gg


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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: shevanel]
    #26605908 - 04/16/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If you’re adding more coir now make sure it’s a very thin layer sprinkled on.


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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: shevanel] * 1
    #26605940 - 04/16/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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If you’re adding more coir now make sure it’s a very thin layer sprinkled on.



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shevanel said:
Dont let that newly added top layer dry out. Mist  when new coir turns a lighter brown color etc fyi gg




Weary of coir expansion with moisture, was extra careful and took the cheese grater to the coir block to ensure it wasn't overdone. Immediately misted it. Will keep a close watch so the top layer doesn't dry out. Thank you!


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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: Sporesight]
    #26615794 - 04/20/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Day 23!!



Since adding very thin top layer of coir 4 days ago can see why this is essential. Misting 2-3 times/day and checking on it when possible to make sure coir stays moist. However, just this afternoon discovered discoloration and bruising on the fruits (now ~1 in. tall). Could they be dry, or is this from misting too much? Advice?  Trying to keep technique dialed in until the end and not get overly optimistic just from seeing fruits for the first time. Thank you!


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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: Sporesight]
    #26615799 - 04/20/20 04:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The coir is way too wet, it should be brownish red and kinda loose and spongy.

More like this



Give it some air and lay off misting for a couple days and it should be ok.

It’s pretty good for a first grow especially with PE.


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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26617487 - 04/21/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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A.k.a said:
The coir is way too wet, it should be brownish red and kinda loose and spongy.

More like this



Give it some air and lay off misting for a couple days and it should be ok.

It’s pretty good for a first grow especially with PE.




Thanks! Stopped misting right after your recommendation yesterday and conditions for the largest fruits continued to deteriorate. Some caps are now blackened and shriveled...  Opened up the lids last night to let them dry off and stopped misting so hopefully they'll turnaround soon. Should the bad ones be removed eventually to reduce contamination?



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Re: RE: First Grow! BOD Tek Monotub w/ PE - Advice? [Re: Sporesight]
    #26617709 - 04/21/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

More photos if helpful



This one looks particularly sad


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