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High altitude growing progress (not what im used to) 10500FT
#26579799 - 04/05/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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i went from growing at sea level to growing in the mountains
from average temps of 77f to an array of temps fluctuating between 75f-59f
at night its cold, for newly inoculated things i have an aquarium heater in water incubator. 
this things great, once mycelium gets going i can take them out and they do fine.
when i spawn to substrate (straw-poo mix), the mycelium is at the fluctuating temps bane. the myc takes along time to colonize because IMO the temp fluctuation puts it to the test.
i had a test tray which fully colonized, had tons of pins, then only fruited one shroom. 
what i dont understand is why the pins aborted and only he grew. all i can think about is im growing a tropical species with less oxygen and pressure. at sub optimal temps. humidity is fine cause its an unmodified setup with imperfect lid.
i took the print from the shroom that grew.
i forgot to dunk the substrate after taking the first flush which was 1 shroom. but heres where that is at now. 
i notice small pins growing very slowly, and i also notice these big heads popping from deep within the sub. should i be using them to clone? maybe even start from their spores? cause they prove to be able to fruit in these conditions? all the mycelium is started from spore prints so i guess its MS culture. remember im at average temps of 65 with day temps around 70-65 and night temps 62-58f
these are the new subs
 
they recovered ok, but its slow cause temps.
this is where im at, from sea level growing at great temps to growing at high altitude, less oxygen, lower temps.
idk what to do, things are ok. but its really different from what ive used to and cant find much with the search bar.
im also growing wild shaggy mane i found here in the mountains. currently its colonizing grain.
please chime in, need all the tips and science i can get.
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Re: High altitude growing progress (not what im used to) 10500FT [Re: yojay50]
#26580145 - 04/05/20 06:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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If that next fat one coming out looks nice I'd definitely clone it. Working with a clone is always preferable to spores. But you always wanna keep some spore stored long term too. Good job it all looks nice
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Re: High altitude growing progress (not what im used to) 10500FT [Re: rumfor69]
#26580225 - 04/05/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I’m at sea level but spent the last five months growing in similar or even colder temp range.
The jars definitely need incubation but I never had problems once I spawned a tub. Maybe took a couple extra days but always had real good results with some solid mushrooms.
One thing that kinda sucks with your temps is I’ll get shitloads of condensation on the lid of the tubs and have to drain it off or it starts to drip on the sub in places.
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Re: High altitude growing progress (not what im used to) 10500FT [Re: A.k.a]
#26580277 - 04/05/20 07:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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thanks guys, helping me out a ton and settling my mind.
so ill clone a fatty, put spores on agar and see where that goes.
in my mind i believe that the shrooms that do grow are able to withstand the temp ranges, so ill definetly look to clone. ya im excited. thanks for the input. l0v3
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Re: High altitude growing progress (not what im used to) 10500FT [Re: yojay50]
#26581814 - 04/06/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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if i clone one that does grow that means it can handle these temps right?
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Re: High altitude growing progress (not what im used to) 10500FT [Re: yojay50]
#26581935 - 04/06/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The temps you're working with aren't bad it's just when it's down to the 60°F area growth will just move along a little slower. But really a lot of mushrooms actually like cooler, damp, fresh air. I don't think its a bad guess to assume though that the clone will work better in it.
The longer you work with it making spores prints & cloning it will help it to adapt and come more accustomed to the environment you're providing.
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Re: High altitude growing progress (not what im used to) 10500FT [Re: rumfor69]
#26582319 - 04/06/20 05:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
rumfor69 said: The temps you're working with aren't bad it's just when it's down to the 60°F area growth will just move along a little slower. But really a lot of mushrooms actually like cooler, damp, fresh air. I don't think its a bad guess to assume though that the clone will work better in it.
The longer you work with it making spores prints & cloning it will help it to adapt and come more accustomed to the environment you're providing.
very cool, cause there is a bunch of little pins that are just creeping along but then there are like 5 big boys coming along nicely. i assume its MS gene stuff. great hobby we have here. so much to consider and learn.
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Re: High altitude growing progress (not what im used to) 10500FT [Re: yojay50]
#26582432 - 04/06/20 06:42 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I agree it's definitely great. I've been fascinated and swept away by it ever since my first successful brf cake. Now it's all I do
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Re: High altitude growing progress (not what im used to) 10500FT [Re: rumfor69]
#26582537 - 04/06/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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rumfor69 said: I agree it's definitely great. I've been fascinated and swept away by it ever since my first successful brf cake. Now it's all I do
ever since my first fruits i am now a mycologist lmfao, its my first time using dung over coir and its so muh better than coir. if i could get my hands on coir i would use it over straw but using no dung with this species is like an insult to the medicine which is cubes.
they LOVE SHIT. its not comparable. they NEED shit.
so my plans currently are to clone these big boys asap on agar. and start finding a "strain" that can handle these temps.
atm outsid is 55 and lower. in my room its 60 flat will go lower.
but they prove to grow so isolate i will
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Re: High altitude growing progress (not what im used to) 10500FT [Re: yojay50]
#26582823 - 04/06/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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So I like shit as much as the next guy, but your shit is made of grains and grass. So why put your sub through a cows ass? Not saying manure doesn't work. It works great, I'm just curious what does it matter?
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Re: High altitude growing progress (not what im used to) 10500FT [Re: Sockadin]
#26582966 - 04/06/20 10:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Coprophilous
but also Saprotrophic
in the wild cubes are on poop. but they also decompose organic matter
its a no brainer really
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Re: High altitude growing progress (not what im used to) 10500FT [Re: yojay50]
#26588797 - 04/09/20 12:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Stems are kinda hollow, currently soaking substrate. They are very short, but they are pretty.
Any ideas?
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Re: High altitude growing progress (not what im used to) 10500FT [Re: yojay50]
#26588834 - 04/09/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I wouldn’t dunk it very long, they look like they’re over hydrated. Cool cap colors.
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Re: High altitude growing progress (not what im used to) 10500FT [Re: A.k.a]
#26588856 - 04/09/20 01:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Word, in the past I've dunked for like 4 hours. I just did an hour, I feel like they broke veil too soon. I also cloned a pin which broke it's veil lmfao.
Interesting times over here.
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Re: High altitude growing progress (not what im used to) 10500FT [Re: yojay50]
#26588920 - 04/09/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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 Very not dense, idk they are fruits. Something is off tho I feel it. Maybe too much oxygen? Lot of top pins that aborted, idk I'll keep tinkering. The sub is drying right now soon I'll put back in and see how flush "3" goes
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Re: High altitude growing progress (not what im used to) 10500FT [Re: yojay50]
#26588926 - 04/09/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Any strain ideas? I don't know what print this is from.
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