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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: tomcards] 1
#26634722 - 04/28/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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4/28/20: I reconfigured my growing set-up. It finally occurred to me that elevating the jars farthest from the light will provide them with more light. Duh!
So, here's a photo of the jars along with one successful, and one, as yet, unsuccessful side project.

I welcome your feedback.
Tom
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: tomcards] 1
#26645899 - 05/03/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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5/3/20:
Hey guys,
Time for the weekly update.
The Player jars continue to grow well, and will hopefully fully colonize soon.

The Slackers continue to slack, but at least they continue to grow.

The alder chips have been soaking for a week. There's no reason to photograph and post a photo of their "progress" because it will look like nothing more than wet chips in a bucket of water. And opening the lid may hinder Stamet's two-week fermentation procedure, to which I'm adhering.
On an unrelated note, as you'll see from the final photo, my first attempt at an agar to agar transfer (with Stropharia, thanks to Gizmo) is going very well.

I thank all of you for your interest, support and encouragement. I welcome your comments, questions and castigation.
Thanks,
Tom
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: tomcards] 1
#26655336 - 05/07/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh shit!
What have we here?

Please advise!
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: tomcards]
#26655351 - 05/07/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hard to tell but looks like bruising.
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: Mycoactive]
#26655373 - 05/07/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thank you!
I didn't even know that was a possible explanation. I assumed that the jar was doomed.
Please. Any other opinions?
Thanks.
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: tomcards] 1
#26657002 - 05/08/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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5/7/20:
I learned that mycelium bruising can be the result of dehydration or rough handling. I can't believe it's dehydration because all of the jars started off overly wet to some degree.
I have been picking up the jars, examining them and moving them around. The rough handling explanation seems more plausible. I have to leave them alone.
Speaking of wetness, I had to sacrifice the wettest of the jars, Wet Willy. The mycelium scarcely grew in the swampy morass. It's not worth the effort to extract mycelium from that soup. And I simply got sick of looking at it.

So I'm down to nine jars.
I hope to birth the six Players (including the bruised jar) in a week and finally mix them into the chips outdoors.
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: tomcards]
#26657099 - 05/08/20 10:29 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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That jar you were aasking about... that doesn't look like bruising (plus the jar looks wet af/bacterial af). Hard to bruise an immovable mass. I shake the fuck out of grain jars of ps cyan and have seen only the slightest of bruising once. Just a heads up. That said, enjoying following this and wishing you the best.
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: alaskappalachian]
#26657708 - 05/08/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks Alaskapplachian,
Damn! And oh shit once again!
To you and anyone else, please oh please advise me!
The jar looks about the same today. Is it salvageable or should I just pitch it? I'm going to transfer myc from two of the healthy jars to agar anyway, so losing another jar isn't a problem.
This is cyanescens. Can the myc tolerate contamination until, a week from now, I mix it with the chips outside and let it and its brothers and sisters and nature kick the contaminants ass?
Or I could extract what appears to be healthy myc, pitch the rest and add the ostensibly healthy myc to the mix. But healthy appearances can be deceiving.
Please advise ASAP.
Thanks for helping me through this wonderful, anxiety-provoking project.
Tom
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: tomcards]
#26657741 - 05/08/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah just wait a week and break it up in the chips. Maybe toss it in the fridge until then. I've tossed fucked over germ plates in woodchips and they grew like mad. If it gets worse, it gets worse. Probably will still colonize...
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: alaskappalachian]
#26657800 - 05/08/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks Alaska!
At least I feel a bit better about waiting a week, instead of impulsively pitching it.
A week from now, to err on the side of safety, I'm going to add only the ostensibly healthy myc from that jar to the mix.
Does anyone have a confirmatory or differing opinion?
Thank you!
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: tomcards]
#26657958 - 05/08/20 05:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ps cyan actually colonizes really well. With that super wet jar, I would have mixed with aged BBQ wood chips (no cedar). Im still trying to figure out the best casing to use. Im gonna try vermiculite next time.
Cool project!
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26658054 - 05/08/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Logical,
Thanks for joining me on the journey.
For all of the jars, I used equal parts BRF, beech sawdust, vermiculite and water. I don't think the recipe was the problem.
The problem was moisture. And I'm happy to self-flagellate once again and say that I could have prevented this problem if I had simply covered the jars with foil when I PC'd them.
Lesson learned.
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: tomcards]
#26658083 - 05/08/20 06:23 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh no. So steam water dripped inside the jars?
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26659372 - 05/09/20 07:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes.
And it will never happen again.
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: tomcards]
#26659529 - 05/09/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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An important lesson learened
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26659581 - 05/09/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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These are some brf (slightly chunky)/sdust/verm jars from one of my jar preps. Notice how light/dry/airy. I'd go drier than wetter if in question when you mix. It should sorf of sift through the hand like damp sand and not clump/mush. If next time you get your prep perfect, vent your PC properly, tape your holes, etc, etc and you still get moisture in the jars over the course of your cycle for some inexplicable reason, they'll still come out better if you err on the dry side when you prep. Myc will tear that shit up. As for the foil- I always foil my cakes (not my grains, but always my cakes). I know people on here run cakes with no tape and no foil somehow and that's all good and well but I just don't see how. I'm anal about cakes and especially when amending with sawdust, but when they're prepped right, they're fast and (seemingly) universally appealing to myc. FFR ps cyan myc takes off like a bastard on popcorn as well.
Edit: Just remembered you had those lids. Yeah I'm thinking now you probably prepped too wet. Might be the issue. Geez I should pay more attention... My emphasis above on foil was with traditional lids -w- 4 holes and a verm barrier, which I always have moisture probles with if left un-foiled. Derp.
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: alaskappalachian]
#26659615 - 05/09/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Awesome post. Well said! 
I feel like slightly too dry is always better than slightly too wet with substrates.
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: alaskappalachian] 1
#26659668 - 05/09/20 09:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Alaska,
Yes, I have SFDs on the lids for GE.
I used 1 part BRF, 1 part verm, 1 part sawdust and 1 part water. The substrate was dry, with plenty of nice little airy crevices. I didn't compact it. I think my recipe was fine.
I fucked it up by not covering the lids with foil, allowing moisture to seep in. Mea culpa.
On an unrelated note, I have quart grain jars with SFDs on the lids for GE. I plan to inoculate them with cubensis agar isolates from other projects.
After this unfortunate experience, everything that I put into the PC gets covered with foil. Including my wife!
Please explain why you choose to NOT cover your quart grain jar lids with foil. How are your results?
Thanks.
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: tomcards]
#26659739 - 05/09/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I always cover my lids with foil - you don't ever want the polyfil/tape to allow water inside your carefully mixed substrate. Quart jars especially when they're wide mouth, however I could see being a bit more lax with regular lid quart jars.
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Re: First time growing Psilocybe cyanescens (in progress). (moved) [Re: mushhead]
#26659765 - 05/09/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for the validation Mushhead!
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