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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: cannabinated]
    #26579202 - 04/05/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

There’s degrees of risk, e.g. think of it as yellow, orange, and red levels of potential exposure. Going to the grocery store without sanitizer? Probably yellow-orange. Going to a bar and hugging friends? Probably red if the other person has it, or if the bar tender or anyone else speaking or touching stuff in close proximity is sick.

Anyone read the new stats on asymptomatic cases? 20-50%. Clearly, this virus crushes some people and spares others. Why?


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: CountHTML] * 1
    #26579213 - 04/05/20 11:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Social distancing and lock downs are only going to slow the spread - without a vaccine it is likely that yes 60-80% of the population will still become infected

So we are just delaying it to avoid overloading the hospitals.

I think they still are saying, most people will get it. But saying everyone will get it is a bit misleading


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26579252 - 04/05/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Why does it take so long for a vaccine, cant they just harvest the virus from a sick person and like injure it so its not active, isnt that how vaccines used to be made?


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: gopher]
    #26579269 - 04/05/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Mutations and health risks.


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: CountHTML] * 1
    #26579275 - 04/05/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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CountHTML said:

Anyone read the new stats on asymptomatic cases? 20-50%. Clearly, this virus crushes some people and spares others. Why?




There's too many parameters and variables involved we can't pin point why. For some people it's genetics, others it's viral load or strain, some people it's the current status of their health (im just guessing possible things, might be false, but it's definitely many reasons.

Its better to assume you might get killed by it to be safe.


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: gopher]
    #26579282 - 04/05/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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gopher said:
Why does it take so long for a vaccine, cant they just harvest the virus from a sick person and like injure it so its not active, isnt that how vaccines used to be made?



Sure, making a vaccine is easy. Making a vaccine that demonstrably works and won't hurt people takes time, not to mention producing it on a large scale. There's potential for vaccines to actually hurt people so they have to be tested thoroughly.


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: gopher]
    #26579283 - 04/05/20 11:23 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be afraid of.  This is a minor illness to 99% of people.  For what seems to be multitudes of people it is so insignificant that it is not noticable.

Yet the horror stories continue.  For some it is extremely dangerous.  So the story shared above about Karen they say kidney failure.  I have never once heard of this virus having anything to do with the kidneys.  It is a respiratory issue.  Karen was also carrying a few hundred extra pounds assuming that is her in the picture.  Does the virus target the obese?


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: InfiniteDreams] * 1
    #26579291 - 04/05/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

All that said... Get ready immediately if you arent. Today is the last day I'd feel safe about going to the store.


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26579295 - 04/05/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It can affect multiples organs including the kidneys. Besides the lungs, heart damage seems to be a major cause of death. Obese people are at higher risk for conditions like heart disease and diabetes so that alone makes them at statistically at higher risk for complications with the virus.


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: InfiniteDreams] * 3
    #26579296 - 04/05/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be afraid of.  This is a minor illness to 99% of people.  For what seems to be multitudes of people it is so insignificant that it is not noticable.

Yet the horror stories continue.  For some it is extremely dangerous.  So the story shared above about Karen they say kidney failure.  I have never once heard of this virus having anything to do with the kidneys.  It is a respiratory issue.  Karen was also carrying a few hundred extra pounds assuming that is her in the picture.  Does the virus target the obese?



The kidney issues aren't new. The rest of what you just said is as speculative as anything else. The numbers don't mean as much as the impact on the healthcare system. Hospitals are getting overloaded. Why is that not enough? Are you just so above a humanitarian issue that you want to act smug about people making an effort?


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: cannabinated]
    #26579318 - 04/05/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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All that said... Get ready immediately if you arent. Today is the last day I'd feel safe about going to the store.



I got a tent, legal firearms with ammunition, first aid kit, dry food, and knowledge on how to hunt..... I've been ready :salute:


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26579326 - 04/05/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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The kidney issues aren't new. The rest of what you just said is as speculative as anything else. The numbers don't mean as much as the impact on the healthcare system. Hospitals are getting overloaded. Why is that not enough? Are you just so above a humanitarian issue that you want to act smug about people making an effort?




:facepalm:

Are you not capable of rational discussion?  I question the need for fear, and you seem to have jumped to the conclusion that I refuse to follow orders or directions.  Guess what?  "Social distancing" is a blessing to me.  Washing my hands is not some new discovery.  I was taught to do that as a small child. 

You can act all high and mighty about the humanitarian efforts around healthcare, while we are busy sewing destruction that will punish us for months if not years to come.  Banks and businesses are not friendly, the real pain is yet to come.


I choose not to spend my time wallowing in fear and misery.  Most people have no reason to.


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: InfiniteDreams] * 2
    #26579338 - 04/05/20 11:51 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Most of the fear mongering I've been seeing is coming from conspiracy theorists talking about how the governments are all creating this elaborate worldwide hoax so they can destroy their own economies and take your guns. Ironically those same people claim any information given by the news on the subject is fear mongering, it's ridiculous.


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: Kizzle]
    #26579345 - 04/05/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

They really are trying to kill us and profit off it though :shrug:


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: Kizzle]
    #26579349 - 04/05/20 11:59 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Did you just make that up? I haven't heard anyone say it's a plot to steal guns. Gun sales are on the rise, legal and illegal :lol:


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: Eminence]
    #26579380 - 04/05/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

That's all the south philbillies talk about. Covid to them is either liberals taking their guns or keeping them from drinking.


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] * 2
    #26579403 - 04/05/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Ivermectin inhibits the replication of COVID in vitro

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011

I use Soolantra (ivermectin) daily for rosacea. Really hoping they can use some of this information to figure out what causes rosacea and how to cure it.




Interesting. I just shot a sea lion up with that yesterday.


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: InfiniteDreams] * 1
    #26579412 - 04/05/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

larry.fisherman said:

The kidney issues aren't new. The rest of what you just said is as speculative as anything else. The numbers don't mean as much as the impact on the healthcare system. Hospitals are getting overloaded. Why is that not enough? Are you just so above a humanitarian issue that you want to act smug about people making an effort?




:facepalm:

Are you not capable of rational discussion?  I question the need for fear, and you seem to have jumped to the conclusion that I refuse to follow orders or directions.  Guess what?  "Social distancing" is a blessing to me.  Washing my hands is not some new discovery.  I was taught to do that as a small child. 

You can act all high and mighty about the humanitarian efforts around healthcare, while we are busy sewing destruction that will punish us for months if not years to come.  Banks and businesses are not friendly, the real pain is yet to come.


I choose not to spend my time wallowing in fear and misery.  Most people have no reason to.



I hate it when people make my response about having to desconstruct why their response was stupid. It's like I'm spending all this time just trying to get to my response, it turns in to an essay I don't want to write. It's a great way to get out of having a rational discussion actually, telling me I'm jumping to conclusions I never made. It actually makes you seem like the one in hysterics, you got butthurt because I said you seem smug. I'll even agree, the economy is more than bad, but who exactly is this "we"? Is it me, or you? No people just care about things, fear comes from love. There are always outliers and bad apples, if you're going to spend your time focusing on that then you're just mongering hate and bitterness. Just your way of coping with the situation. I'm sure there's a lot of ways to do that.. which ones are more abrasive?


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26579428 - 04/05/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Stay healthy y’all! :heart::manofapproval:


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Re: Viral Outbreak in China - COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 aka Wuhan Coronavirus 2020 [Re: larry.fisherman] * 2
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