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cooldude46
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Unconscious during trip
#26578203 - 04/04/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey y’all, this is my first real post on the forum so let me know if this is appropriate for this board. Anyway about a week ago I had my first real psychedelic trip. I had taken N-Bome before and I had had Entheogen experiences with very high doses of weed edibles before but nothing ever like an actual trip. To start out I had sourced several P. Cubensis from my family farm, total I would say they were about 25 grams. In total there was about it 9 mushrooms, with only four of the five being fresh wet ones. And these wet I have to say we’re pretty big with the largest having a gill width of around 4 inches across and was 5-6 inches tall. At 6’2 and 204 pounds I believed that this was a relatively large dose, but nothing too dangerous.
I must admit I threw the sagely advice of fasting out the window and began taking them one by one while I was in the shower. I saved two of them for later if I didn’t think was able to take them all, these included one average dried and a large wet one. During the shower I began to think of that song by Jefferson airplane, the one about Alice and it began to play on my phones song autoplayer. I began to laugh as I felt like i was shrinking, in reality I’m sure my field vision shrank (I was sitting down). Finally I decided to get out of the shower before I was incapable of doing so where I was greeted by my trusty dog and my shelves that looked like a cats face, like in the song.
From here most of the experience is a blur of emotions and everything not going quite right, but to me that was fairly alright. At some point or another I decided I needed to lay down in my bed and listen to music. I don’t remember much at this point but I remember fading in and out of consciousness while something about my world reaching a singularity of my life experiences before I kicked the bucket. I remember i was almost half way conscious and opening my eyes only to moan and make noises like a Severely mentally damaged child, falling on my pillow once again apparently unable to recognize where I was. At some point in my unconscious state I began projectile vomiting onto my bed (which my dog seemed to sure like) it felt like I was shitting out of my own mouth and I was sort of able to recognize the tastes and smells, but not do anything about them.
At some point of puking I was able to grasp my situation, I sat up and sobered up a little. It was a huge damn mess and I had to throw out most of my sheets. The rest of the night wasn’t actually at all bad, I became left handed and none of my bicep muscles worked. To add to that my hands seemed short and stubby, most likely swollen back then but at the time I thought I had traded my arms and hands for an alternate version of me that had Down syndrome. With all that out of the way how common is it for y’all to lose consciousness during your trips, to be honest I think I took to much and/or wasn’t mentally tough enough for the dose of shrooms I took. I wouldn’t call what I had a bad trip mostly because I wasn’t really conscious for any of the bad stuff and I don’t really remember what I “saw” during that period.
TL;DR- I lost consciousness during a trip I had and now I’m worried about my next one. Is this a common experience for going too high on doses?
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Edited by cooldude46 (04/05/20 09:22 AM)
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Re: Unconscious during trip [Re: cooldude46]
#26578222 - 04/04/20 10:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Irresponsible use of hallucinogenic substances can be very dangerous and is quite unwise.
Please educate yourself some more, and be cautious next time, if there is a next time.
Best to you.
Short answer, yes it can and does sometime happen on high dosages. Sounds like you don’t know exactly how many grams you took, part dry part fresh. Someone else can chime in on this better than I. Anywho, careful bud.
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Edited by The Blind Ass (04/04/20 10:45 PM)
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“Irresponsible use” I’m sure that’s in relation to the dosage level I prescribed above, however the majority of the weight came from the wet mushrooms with the far smaller dried ones only amounting in total to 2 grams. The majority of the smaller shrooms for whatever reason were stunted and quite small. The most irresponsible thing I did during the trip was laying down to lose consciousness. The dosages levels for wet shrooms I read we’re X10 the dosage of dried in order to reach the same level as . Which is what I did “ Please educate yourself some more” That’s exactly what I’ve come here for, but yes I plan on doing smaller doses in the future.
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Quote:
The Blind Ass said:

Irresponsible use of hallucinogenic substances can be very dangerous and is quite unwise.
Please educate yourself some more, and be cautious next time, if there is a next time.
Best to you.
Short answer, yes it can and does sometime happen on high dosages. Sounds like you don’t know exactly how many grams you took, part dry part fresh. Someone else can chime in on this better than I. Anywho, careful bud.
yep, i OD'd like this once. and i use the term OD'd not like i was in danger of dying but i overdosed myself. IIRC, i had some half dry shrooms from the fridge that had been there a few days and i dosed them like they were fresh and wet. started one movie and woke up to the ending of another with a mattress on the floor. So yes it happens. I recommend buying a scale and always er on the side of caution.
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Re: Unconscious during trip [Re: cooldude46]
#26578397 - 04/04/20 11:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yep sounds like you took too much. You should get a scale and probability dry them out completely to dose accurately. If you have some that are wet and some that are partially dry then it would be really hard to accurately dose. Iv never really lost consciousness on high doses but I have left my body and that can be pretty crazy too. Some people have reported blacking out a really high doses though.
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Re: Unconscious during trip [Re: cooldude46] 1
#26578404 - 04/04/20 11:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've tripped many times and even low doses can put ya out when ya least expect it. To were ya take higher doses and your trapped in the ultimate challenge when you wish would have lost consciousness.
It is always wise to have a tripsitter until you know your limits or comforts especially when using higher doses.
Mushrooms like to disconnect you from your default mode network which gives the out of body experience and ego disillusion to varying degrees.
I leave a pan by my bed just in case, I rarely throw up but yeah, bed pan.
After what would be called breaking through on a low dose of mushrooms hours after it should have weared off was kinda of a wake up call for me. It is more about your health in body and state of mind than it is the dose.
Psychedelics are not a dick measuring contest, respect yourself and the substance.
Lesson learned I hope glad ya didn't drown.
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Re: Unconscious during trip [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
#26578451 - 04/05/20 12:24 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nothing irresponsible here, only a learning experience of potential.
OP. Read up a little on set and setting.
There are many books out there about psychedelic use.
The Psychedelic Experience by Ralph Metzner and Timothy Leary really helped me understand some states of mind and self that I had experienced with psilocybin.
And that's really all it is, a state of mind where there's no sense of a body due to psilocybin acting on those areas of a brain involved with sense of self.
Take care. Some people may never eat enough mushrooms to reach a state of 'unconsciousness' like you described.
May I ask, when you were 'blacked out', do you remember anything at all? Any visions, colors, emotions, anything?
I have found my most profound 'visions' upon coming to out of these states of nothingness.
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Re: Unconscious during trip [Re: HamHead]
#26578463 - 04/05/20 12:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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@hamhead ill chime in too, i do not remember any of the time i was unconscious. its very different from blasting off with DMT, if that makes sense.
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Re: Unconscious during trip [Re: numnum59]
#26578487 - 04/05/20 12:54 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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numnum59 said: @hamhead ill chime in too, i do not remember any of the time i was unconscious. its very different from blasting off with DMT, if that makes sense.
Yeah, I hear that observer self still remains on DMT. I've yet to try it though I've been sitting on half a gram for a about a month.
I've experienced similar states as OP. It's those moments leading up to which I recall having chaotic CEVs, like my senses are being overwhelmed and I just give up and find myself coming to however long later.
OP, there's nothing to fear. Use these moments to examine your life and right your own wheel on whatever path you find your self on.
These states of 'unconscious' can be seen as a reset. A chance to be reborn.
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Re: Unconscious during trip [Re: HamHead]
#26578614 - 04/05/20 02:35 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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the scene from interstellar toward the end where he enters the black hole reminds me of the 1 time i blasted off on DMT
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Re: Unconscious during trip [Re: numnum59]
#26578813 - 04/05/20 06:29 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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do you know what autism or down syndrome are? Not mad but at least Google that shit before you try to use them as descriptors for something literally indescribable. Good read besides that. It would be less annoying if you had said "I looked retarded" because at least it would reflect your ignorance. And if you truly do know what you're saying then shame on you and STAAAAAHP. Those comparisons don't make any sense to those who are actually familiar with those conditions.
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Didn't even notice that Richard. But, I’m a gen x, most of the time, we don’t notice offensive references to homosexuality or ethnicity either.
I did reread the post and can see the derogatory nature of his descriptions. My guess is that it was inadvertent and was simply a failed attempt at presenting creative and entertaining descriptions.
I forgive him. Even if he is a retarded hillbilly trump-lover.
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Re: Unconscious during trip [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26578860 - 04/05/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm 24 I just have a daughter with autism. Like I said, I'm not mad, and I'm sure he wasn't intending offense, but it just doesn't make sense. I love offensive shit, even autism jokes if they make sense, for instance even if he had arbitrarily switched the two in his writing it would have made more sense to me, though just barely Also I don't mean for anyone to be discouraged from posting here. I love trip reports and the question at the end was a good purpose for it. Perhaps I should have taken more mushrooms tonight (thismorning) instead of drinking with a microdose, I'd probably be more friendly on the outside 
No hate OP.
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Re: Unconscious during trip [Re: HamHead]
#26579035 - 04/05/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I remember sliding into a singularity where I was dying and I was watching the world end. For whatever reason the “world” just happened to be my most recent memories so I was just thinking about my house getting destroyed so the me in it. Although that’s a observation from the rn I had no idea what was happening when I was doing it.
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Sorry man I didn’t mean to offend you, I only used those descriptors because I had seen them in what I thought were people with severe Down syndrome while growing up. For instance the thing with my hands and arms was that I thought I had Brachydactyly, which according to Wikipedia was common in people with Down syndrome. Yeah your right I shouldn’t conflate the two knowing that they are very different medical phenomenon, I’ll edit that out. Again sorry for using inaccurate offensive descriptors
Edited by cooldude46 (04/05/20 09:28 AM)
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Re: Unconscious during trip [Re: cooldude46]
#26579203 - 04/05/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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This place isn't usually PC cooldude. Most people aren't into controlling others speech, it's not facebook, just let it go. Deliberate racism or trolling are against the rules here, protecting people from their own emotional weakness and verbal sensitivities isn't a requirement. Seriously, you can tell people to go fuck themselves, if you have good reasoning, and they can tell you to go jump in turn. 
Anyhow...
Sounds like one hell of a trip. I've certainly had experiences where I've dropped in and out of consciousness and woken up in different places in my home. It can catch you unawares sometimes. Don't feel bad. As others have said completely drying your stash to better measure your dose is a good idea. Many of the other things you experienced are really common though. I think you handled it pretty good to be honest.
Best of luck man.
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Re: Unconscious during trip [Re: cooldude46]
#26579265 - 04/05/20 11:14 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wouldn't recommend taking enough to black out, even though I cannot accurately describes why other than it didn't feel good and changes may have been happening that I wasn't emotionally (maybe karmically) involved in) I'm a fucking weird cunt blacked out on alcohol so that's why I wouldn't trust it. I took way too much on purpose my intention was "show me" I won't even attempt to explain what I saw or what I learnt in the years after other than it changed my life forever. I couldn't even get up off the ground dude just tried to get up Everytime I tried eventually lost strength trying to stand fell/melted into the ground n blacked out. maybe? took about an hour to get out of that *scene. funny thing we had like a 12ft tv antennae tripping next to iton the lawn lol. that aerial was meant to be attached to the house later in the week I kept waking up n grabbing hold onto it during the trip dunno if that had anything to do with my blackout, dosent sound scientific at all...
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Re: Unconscious during trip [Re: Zen999]
#26581230 - 04/06/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It will be 33 years ago this September since I took a ridiculously large liberty cap dose. After the ego death, when I’d pleaded with god and the devil to let me live, I came to some hours later in the gutter, cobbled street, outside an Asian taxi rank, with rainwater literally gushing over me!
Have no recollection of how I got there; probably during the time I thought I was dead, and had gone to a place beyond the universe, and beyond heaven or hell, where it was cold, dark, and lonely. I was there for “thousands of years”
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Re: Unconscious during trip [Re: cooldude46]
#26581427 - 04/06/20 10:47 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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cooldude46 said: TL;DR- I lost consciousness during a trip I had and now I’m worried about my next one. Is this a common experience for going too high on doses?
I don't think I've lost consciousness in the sense of "everything goes dark and then you wake up somewhere else" but my brain has shut down a few times where I have been unable to move or think, only stare at a wall. It has always happened after reaching the destination and the resulting revelation is so intense the brain chooses to forget and lock me out to escape the intensity. That's how I rationalize it but I don't know why that happens. When I snap out of it I always have a maddening feeling that I've just forgotten the most important thing I've ever known but I can never figure out what it was.
Then if one of the following high dose trips happen to take me the same route it's like strong deja vu. "Aah so that's what it was, marvelous..."
Take smaller doses and increase it when you feel up to it and you'll be fine. Probably.
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Re: Unconscious during trip [Re: DJ Ed]
#26583708 - 04/07/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I hope I don't offend a real person but it is my honest opinion: you sound like a robot your experiences are plagiarised and you have no original thoughts. I leave room for error, your thoughts?
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