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OfflineOrange24
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Fasted??
    #26577964 - 04/04/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If making a tea, is being 100% fasted a requirement? Or just having not eaten in the last few hours.


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Re: Fasted?? [Re: Orange24]
    #26578024 - 04/04/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Not a requirement ,  but in practice I like to be relatively empty of stomach and bowels for a couple to several hours beforehand.
I have done it on a full stomach and empty.  Nausea is lessened whenever I’ve been empty and took a finely filter and 15 min steeped tea, I usually drink a 4oz tonic of lemon extract with ginger extract in it and some drops of lemon oil about 10-30 mins before drinking the mushroom tea . But without out it works, and the rest is adjunctive measures.

Buth that’s just me.  Tea for me, can kick into full gear in under 30 mins and even less when empty.


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Re: Fasted?? [Re: Orange24] * 1
    #26578072 - 04/04/20 08:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Eat/drink them mushrooms for breakfast to get the max effect


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Re: Fasted?? [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26578128 - 04/04/20 09:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Shroomhunts said:
Eat/drink them mushrooms for breakfast to get the max effect




Never tripped at night before, always done it first thing in mid
Morning.


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Re: Fasted?? [Re: Orange24]
    #26578215 - 04/04/20 09:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I always trip after the suns gone down, late in the night is great.

When your in the pitch black darkness of night,  and suddenly there are colors and lights and geometry with a quality of pure  illusory evanescence,  makes it feel like Fantasia come to life.

Countless tendrils sprouting from the floor that glow and look like a complex coral reef, not just on surfaces, but growing out into the space of the room itself,  the transforming landscapes of geometry that can be affected with sound, all while within fractals upon fractals, I’ve found I cannot get the same quality of magical illusion if tripping during the day.  At night, open eye or closed eye no longer matters, it’s breaks through into space time.

And yeah, in my general experience PE varieties are great, but I tend to eat 3 in tandem varieties equaling 5-7 grams, in that amount being Amazonian, APE, and Mazatapec.  That’s my sweet spot, but only if I’m very prepared, I’ll change my way of living for up to a month before diving head first into that kind of a experience.  It’s not a toy.  Mad respect for those we uphold the psychedelic induced tradition of shamanic mysticism.    That’s my experience, from trial and error,  keep reading the forums and some literature to get an educated idea of what your fit is in the whole psychedelic schema.

If your looking to simply have a good time or drug experience, I personally wouldn’t do so much.  I only do so a few times a year.

Careful, and best to you.


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Re: Fasted?? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26578223 - 04/04/20 10:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I always trip after the suns gone down, late in the night is great.

When your in the pitch black darkness of night,  and suddenly there are colors and lights and geometry with a quality of pure  illusory evanescence,  makes it feel like Fantasia come to life.

Countless tendrils sprouting from the floor that glow and look like a complex coral reef, not just on surfaces, but growing out into the space of the room itself,  the transforming landscapes of geometry that can be affected with sound, all while within fractals upon fractals, I’ve found I cannot get the same quality of magical illusion if tripping during the day.  At night, open eye or closed eye no longer matters, it’s breaks through into space time.

And yeah, in my general experience PE varieties are great, but I tend to eat 3 in tandem varieties equaling 5-7 grams, in that amount being Amazonian, APE, and Mazatapec.  That’s my sweet spot, but only if I’m very prepared, I’ll change my way of living for up to a month before diving head first into that kind of a experience.  It’s not a toy.  Mad respect for those we uphold the psychedelic induced tradition of shamanic mysticism.    That’s my experience, from trial and error,  keep reading the forums and some literature to get an educated idea of what your fit is in the whole psychedelic schema.

If your looking to simply have a good time or drug experience, I personally wouldn’t do so much.  I only do so a few times a year.

Careful, and best to you.





Thank you for that response.

My game plan isn’t for having a good time when I trip. I’m working through a major reset mentally. Using this as a tool to trace back through certain areas of my life where learned behavior has become so engrained that I can’t see from a new or different perspective any longer. It’s been hugely beneficial for me and my anxiety/depression. But, I’m still very new to this.


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Re: Fasted?? [Re: Orange24]
    #26578256 - 04/04/20 10:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If that’s the case, don’t be in a rush.  This is only my take , and I’m sure like I did and others do, you’ll find your own way.

Just make sure, you root it in these.  Morality, Concentration, and Wisdom.  ( hard to go wrong for long when you do that with love)

All I can speak for is my own experience,  I too initially used mushrooms to work through some major problems in own life, and I was very careful as to how I used mushrooms in doing so, I began with a 1.5g trip the first time with friends, and although it was strange and powerful in its potential, I could see this wasn’t just another drug- it was something deeply powerful.  After one more time with friends, I abandoned the practice of using them with others, because it’s an inherently personal experience with little place for others imho.  Still, I always respected set and setting, let the a person or persons I trust the most in this life know what I was doing whenever I tripped, but they’d be in another room quietly minding thee own business, and I’d write down when and how much I took and other useful things in case of emergency, turn all things off expect a preselected music set of instrumental only, to avoid being influenced by musics lyrics while in a state susceptible to suggestion through my senses, and wore comfy clothing, being empty in stomach and bowel but comfy, and having the next 72ish hrs without any responsibilities at all.  State my intents and motivations, purify my senses, forgive myself, turn my heart and mind towards itself and lay down , or sit up on the ground in a comfy yet meditative posture, and then guide myself through the trip, or if needed abandon the intellect in what was only a dream or a trip- but not in a way that I would ever hurt or compromise myself or another.

Over the years I explored psychedelic depths little by little,  becoming accustomed to the unpredictable nature of them, and the dramatic differences in strength of different batches and differing dosages I found 3-6 a sweet spot after immense practice coupled with Buddhist training for a base of conduct and belief through which to filter experiences.

  Coupled with the wisdom that comes from having lucid dreams - that being - anything in this altered experience, no matter what
Is, simply a display of my own nature, my self.  Knowing that and that all things are interdependent and that all compounded things are temporary,  all that combined allowed me an airtight measure of safety or comfort and ease during a trip, since it’s experientialy of the same nature as a dream. 

To take the mushrooms, and have clear discernment about the nature of the experience it begets and unfolds before you, is important when using them to work through something imho.  Because I have seem many a tripper take them and become increasingly delusive even afterwards of the trip,  but I have seen those that lead the selves only  truly and nobly through such journeys, become more mature in their lives.

Just don’t forget , like dreams, trips are inherently private and only make total sense to oneself, that’s how hallucinations work, they use your own stuff, or stuff from the sensory organs that have been accumulated over life and more, to kind of turn the mind inside out and so reveal the psyche in a way that makes it plain though magically extraordinary.

Sometimes it’s hit or miss,  but if you take up this path, temporarily or not, I have confidence that you will be able to guide yourself.

Relating trips to dreams, in terms of how to handle them whilst in them and afterwards, rarely steers me wrong.

Allowing time to analyze and investigate the trip during it, and for weeks or months or years aftwards, can be just as important.
And sometimes if a trip is not helpful or useful in a way that can be discerned, because it’s like a dream, you can simply chalk it up to a random dream and discard it without  much effort.

In dreams and in trips, we can sort of use them like a wish fulfilling gem, we surrender to our own Minds nature, by relaxing into it naturally, the way one exhales their own breath.  And although dream like, the brain at the time of the dream or trip, cannot tell the difference between real and false, but your better judgement can -  the cool, mirror like awareness that simply reflects everything behind your thinking and senses and observations in the day to day life.

Although unreal, it can have have benefits in ones real life later, or consequences.  So, it’s really about how much you trust yourself, no one is inside your head but you, no matter if it seems the opposite, never forget that- it’s just you, and your  imagination and your karmic conditioning.


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Re: Fasted?? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26578546 - 04/05/20 01:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

A very well thought out and written post, thank you for taking the time :thumbup:


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