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What is your cultivation grain of choice? 3
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What is your go to grain?
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? (moved) [Re: Sockadin] 2
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This thread was moved from Advanced Mycology.
Reason: get your shit together sock
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? (moved) [Re: cronicr] 1
#26578152 - 04/04/20 09:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Here we fucking go!
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin] 3
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I like wheat berries. For the smell, color, easy prep and cheap price.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26578253 - 04/04/20 10:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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wbs
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: tripdawg420] 1
#26578431 - 04/05/20 12:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Millet.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: shevanel] 1
#26578565 - 04/05/20 01:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wheat.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: bobwastaken]
#26578829 - 04/05/20 06:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm gonna say oats to my own poll. Lol thanks for All the responses. Let's keep this up for a bit so we can get some good data.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin] 1
#26578951 - 04/05/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm just starting, but I am starting with wheat, it smells nice, and is available locally and only costs 13 bucks for 50 pounds.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin]
#26578954 - 04/05/20 08:24 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've gotten my best yields off whole brown rice, and it has like 0 bacteria problems. Can be super temperamental though, like oops i stopped watching it for 3 minutes and I can't shake it temperamental. Boiling water soak times can vary by like 100% depending on rice brand too.
Prolly running mostly oats in the future though, can't beat the ease of use.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin]
#26579186 - 04/05/20 10:38 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm really digging rye berries. I've pretty much nailed the hydration part of it and I love how non clumpy it is; it makes the shaking stage so much easier.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Newbie] 4
#26579261 - 04/05/20 11:14 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't see an uncle Ben's choice in poll.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Smartattack]
#26579302 - 04/05/20 11:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's because it's not a real grain.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Smartattack]
#26579312 - 04/05/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Smartattack said: I don't see an uncle Ben's choice in poll.
Mthrfker Sock you left out my favorite. Lmao.
Wheat guy here it's the shit. I also like wbs, and barley. I would say rye but that shit is expensive.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin] 1
#26579315 - 04/05/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: That's because it's not a real grain.
Lmao. Im not defending it but... "Rice is the seed of the grass species Oryza sativa or Oryza glaberrima. As a cereal grain, it is the most widely consumed staple food for a large part of the world's human population, especially in Asia." -Wikipedia
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: gizmo1]
#26579317 - 04/05/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah that's why I left it off the list. F*#@ rice.
Honestly I didn't want to skew the data and have people thinking I ment BRF instead of long grain brown rice.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin] 1
#26579341 - 04/05/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Actually in reference to the above conjecture- I DO like wbr. Works super-great but I'm not paying for it per pound to do any real work. Cheapest I ever found it was for like $25 for 50lbs online. Fuck that, but I do keep a few bags around for novelty. I prefer just millet but can't get any atm; but I've been very happy with wbs on the whole. Ready to move on to some of that sunflower seed lol. All jokes aside, that sure made for some purdy jars, Sockadin.
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Spawned a qrt today of AA+ to straight coir in a shoebox. We will see. For my money in my region it is just as cheep as WBS but more expensive than oats. I just love they way it looks when the mycelium is colonizing it. But it is slow as shit agar to seed. This one I spawned today was G2G with WBS as the parent jar. It was pretty fast, like 12 days. Nothing like LI, but I suck at that right now.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin]
#26582040 - 04/06/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wasnt it you, Sock, that was doing a batch of pollen pods?
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: shevanel]
#26582058 - 04/06/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Who was the Milo vote?
I'm at the end of my bag of rye and I've been wanting to try it out before I order another bag of rye.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#26582101 - 04/06/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The guy above you literally posted Milo.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Smartattack]
#26582154 - 04/06/20 04:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oats for price, rye is the best I have used so far though
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: bootedboy]
#26582206 - 04/06/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I use to use wheat and really liked it, but oats are so cheap...so I've been using that.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: shevanel]
#26582239 - 04/06/20 05:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yep. They are still colonizing. Had to spray a few spots of mold. They definitely need a coir top layer which defeats the purpose.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin] 1
#26582321 - 04/06/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Red Millet.
Milo and oats are good too.
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I like wheat; I get 50lb bags at $15 a pop.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: BooShow]
#26583354 - 04/07/20 07:01 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looks like oats is taking the lead.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin]
#26592939 - 04/11/20 08:03 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I started with rye, and never found anything I liked better. I just bought a 55# bag for US$22, even though same size oats was $14. Got excess now...lol.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: RRedBBeard]
#26593100 - 04/11/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Started with rye, tried oats because of the price, now I'm on to organic HRS wheat. I get 50 pound bags locally for $13. Cleanest grain I've used so far.
I've got a few others I want to try but I haven't gotten there yet. I've got 15 pounds of hulless oats and another of safflower seeds.
As an aside ive actually seen the fastest grain colonization on a mix. Oats, wheat and coffee grounds. Shit rips through jars of it, easily 3-5 days quicker than non-mixed jars.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: F-Bomb]
#26593346 - 04/11/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Will someone please define the difference between Rye Rye grass seed, and Rye berries?
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: RRedBBeard]
#26593370 - 04/11/20 12:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Rye and rye berries are usually referred to as the same thing.
Rye grass seed is a seed that produces rye grass. It's a winter grass because it can Handle colder climates.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: RRedBBeard]
#26593401 - 04/11/20 12:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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RRedBBeard said: Will someone please define the difference between Rye Rye grass seed, and Rye berries?
Thanks
Rye/rye berries are a grass in the genus secale and is what we use in this hobby.
Ryegrass seed is unrelated to rye and is a grass in the genus lolium. It's just called ryegrass but has nothing to do with rye.
If you want rye used for grain spawn, buy rye berries not ryegrass seed
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: natedawgnow]
#26593489 - 04/11/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Rye grass seed works, but is a pain in the ass. Not worth your dollars.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin] 1
#26593961 - 04/11/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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So, did I just buy a massive bag of the wrong stuff? I've actually been using this a long time....
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#26594207 - 04/11/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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That be rye
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: RRedBBeard]
#26594242 - 04/11/20 08:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's the right stuff!
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin]
#26594278 - 04/11/20 09:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm surprised that popcorn didn't get more votes in the poll. Been using it for quite a while. Super easy to dry off and the large grains make it easy to work with. Much less mess than the WBS I used to use. 65 bucks CAD for 50 pounds which is a bit expensive IMO. Agar colonises a mother jar in 3 weeks, 2-3 more after a G2G at 10:1. Getting faster after every transfer!
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: PiggyPig]
#26594460 - 04/11/20 10:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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WBS has treated me well this entire time but I’ve seen a lot of post in the past that make me want to switch to oats.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: DreamReality] 1
#26594517 - 04/11/20 10:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I use rye, oats and wbs. I like them all. Wbs and rye super easy. Oats are too but drying them take a little more patience
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: PiggyPig]
#26594542 - 04/11/20 10:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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PiggyPig said: I'm surprised that popcorn didn't get more votes in the poll. Been using it for quite a while. Super easy to dry off and the large grains make it easy to work with. Much less mess than the WBS I used to use. 65 bucks CAD for 50 pounds which is a bit expensive IMO. Agar colonises a mother jar in 3 weeks, 2-3 more after a G2G at 10:1. Getting faster after every transfer!
I get 50# of wheat or barley for about 10 bucks from the feed store and the prep is ridiculously easy especially once you know what you're going for.
I've been thinking of trying the no prep with millet since the source I get it from is very clean.
I'm hoping I can just fill bags with dry grain, add water, seal, and sterilize... but the prep is so easy with barley or millet already I don't see much gain but a little time.
But back to the op topic: I think barley has won me over. getting super fast colonization and was the easiest and fastest prep I've ever done. Lefty' EASIER Than Fuck Barley Prep
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: tombosley8]
#26594728 - 04/12/20 12:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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PiggyPig said: I'm surprised that popcorn didn't get more votes in the poll. Been using it for quite a while. Super easy to dry off and the large grains make it easy to work with. Much less mess than the WBS I used to use. 65 bucks CAD for 50 pounds which is a bit expensive IMO. Agar colonises a mother jar in 3 weeks, 2-3 more after a G2G at 10:1. Getting faster after every transfer!
I get 50# of wheat or barley for about 10 bucks from the feed store and the prep is ridiculously easy especially once you know what you're going for.
I've been thinking of trying the no prep with millet since the source I get it from is very clean.
I'm hoping I can just fill bags with dry grain, add water, seal, and sterilize... but the prep is so easy with barley or millet already I don't see much gain but a little time.
But back to the op topic: I think barley has won me over. getting super fast colonization and was the easiest and fastest prep I've ever done. Lefty' EASIER Than Fuck Barley Prep
Millet is great, seems these no prep teks for it will do the culture a favor, rinse, soak, and boil is too much especially for newcomers if you can reduce the leg work f on the beginning helps focus on more important technique of keeping things clean. I mean I feel I can throw a 50# bag into a kettle not worry about it. I was all about cleaning grains before these no prep techniques came up, millet a clean grain does great with agar IME. But one down size is it’s smaller and therefore takes much more to complete spawn bag or jar. Just got done prepping 50 bags did 4qts a bag they came out to 5# not sure why I know with rye their like 4 the bags are bigger but more inoculation points with millet.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: PiptheGreAtest] 2
#26595274 - 04/12/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.
Wheat fo life.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: staytrippy420]
#26599329 - 04/14/20 12:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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you ever try barley?
prep is way faster and they seem to be less sensitive to needing just the right amount of hydration. I've had problems with wheat drying out on the top of the bags and not colonizing properly. but not barley with even 30-40 min less boiling/hydrating.
Just thought you might like them as I really do like wheat and barley for me was just the next step up.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: tombosley8]
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What do you guys think the best grain would be for keeping things low key? Don't want to look like I'm making moonshine or something...would rather look like I'm doing something non-suspicious. I use popcorn, I get it in 50 pound bags and it's quite expensive. If they ask what I'm doing with it I tell them I watch too many movies and smile.
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WBS is the best for low key. Your just filling up your bird feeder. It's probably my favorite grain because you can buy it anywhere, works great and prep is easy.
Also who cares if you buy bird seed?
That being said I personally love oats, but that's a whole different animal.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin]
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Yeah good point. WBS would be the best for low-key. Didn't even cross my mind since I had such negative experiences with it. It was probably my tek, or I was using the wrong type of seed but the first year I spent dumping green jars left a bad taste in my mouth.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin]
#26606610 - 04/16/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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tombosley8 said: you ever try barley?
prep is way faster and they seem to be less sensitive to needing just the right amount of hydration. I've had problems with wheat drying out on the top of the bags and not colonizing properly. but not barley with even 30-40 min less boiling/hydrating.
Just thought you might like them as I really do like wheat and barley for me was just the next step up.
Nah I’ve never tried barley. Wheat works good so I’ve never tried anything els.
What’s the price like compared to wheat? How’s the prep?
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: staytrippy420]
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I use rye berries mainly, but have been wanting to use other grains. I'd love your suggestions and possibly documentation in prep for different kinds of grain?
I like rye water agar.
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Oats are pretty low key to. Just feeding my horse 😂
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Pinball24]
#26606665 - 04/16/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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With 1 bag lol
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: shevanel]
#26606668 - 04/16/20 08:42 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hahaha that's why ya pay with cash
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: staytrippy420]
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tombosley8 said: you ever try barley?
prep is way faster and they seem to be less sensitive to needing just the right amount of hydration. I've had problems with wheat drying out on the top of the bags and not colonizing properly. but not barley with even 30-40 min less boiling/hydrating.
Just thought you might like them as I really do like wheat and barley for me was just the next step up.
Nah I’ve never tried barley. Wheat works good so I’ve never tried anything els.
What’s the price like compared to wheat? How’s the prep?
My barley was cheaper but by only $3 per 50# bag. But the prep is much faster and less work.
just boil for 15-20 min, strain and load up into jars/bags. Also I had consistently faster colonization by a day or two compared to wheat.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Pinball24] 2
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It's all low key. If somebody be asking me why I'm buying something I'm going to remind them exactly how much business it is of theirs to know.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Smartattack]
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Who cares it’s 2020 not 1960. Nobody give af.
It’s not like your making meth here it’s just mushrooms.
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Not to mention 99.999% of mushrooms you CAN be growing on grain are legal anyways. Just tell the truth if you feel you need to say anything at all. "Oh they are for mushroom growing"
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Smartattack]
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Ok so it's not nearly done but. Mush Cult Grain Guide
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin]
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Nice one!
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: tombosley8]
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tombosley8 said: you ever try barley?
prep is way faster and they seem to be less sensitive to needing just the right amount of hydration. I've had problems with wheat drying out on the top of the bags and not colonizing properly. but not barley with even 30-40 min less boiling/hydrating.
Just thought you might like them as I really do like wheat and barley for me was just the next step up.
Barley is primarily what I'm using now. Prefer wheat though. Do you have any problems with barley clumping after PC cycle? Mine has been lately and it's not sticky or wet at all, just likes to clump.  It still breaks up perfect and it doesn't cause any problems just wondering if anyone else has this happen it didn't seem to happen with the first 50lbs or the top half of the 2nd and hasn't happened much of at all with any other grains unless I did something personally to mess up prep.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: gizmo1]
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no its been pretty similar to wheat in terms of clumping. I have a clump here and there(with wheat and barley) that breaks up easily when time for kneading. The faster colonization aspect and the easier prep is key for me.
Also I often have burst grains where the bags are touching the sterilizer I think caused by leaving the bags to cool in the sterilizer rather than unloading hot. Less so with barley. But this small amount of burst grain mix in with no effort and cause no problems
So far spawn run is identical to wheat. and fruiting is all over the map for me so I can't attribute anything to the type of grain at the moment but seems to be about the same for wheat barley and wbs.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: tombosley8]
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Used to use popcorn, as that's what I started out with bc of ease of obtaining and it was possible to prep without pc. Just recently decided to try "real" grains and bought 25kg of horse feed oats. Working really well so far! Just need a bit of steel netting to modify my colander as the holes are big enough for some oats to fall through. Next time I want to try something new I'm going to go for wbs.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: PMBastian]
#26607010 - 04/16/20 11:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I’m surprised oats is getting as much love as it is. I thought people had issues using oats just from reading the forum. I’ve been using rue berries but my local feed store only had wheat so I grabbed a 50lb bag of that to try. Lots of loose hulls in the bag but nothing a garden hose and a bunch of rinsing won’t take care of.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: D3_Myc]
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Just grabbed some oats as it was the easiest cheap bulk buy I could find. A friend told me he had a lot of contam with it, but I haven't had a lot of problems. I've had 2 grain bags contam, but that was most likely my sterile tek that was sloppy. Found penicilum (I think) in the transfer I did from the same agar plate i inoced those bags with. Oh yea I remember now that was the time I dropped my entire agar wedge to the floor of my SAB. So far oats are working well for me!
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: PMBastian]
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PMBastian said: Just grabbed some oats as it was the easiest cheap bulk buy I could find. A friend told me he had a lot of contam with it, but I haven't had a lot of problems. I've had 2 grain bags contam, but that was most likely my sterile tek that was sloppy. Found penicilum (I think) in the transfer I did from the same agar plate i inoced those bags with. Oh yea I remember now that was the time I dropped my entire agar wedge to the floor of my SAB. So far oats are working well for me!
I've had a 25kg bag of horse feed oats sitting in my house for almost two years now. I'm now finally getting around to agar work to use the stuff lol. It was definitely the cheapest around for me when I was looking especially in terms of amount.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Htaeh]
#26607744 - 04/17/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yep horse feed oats is what we all referrnto when we say oats.
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And it has been a week with no more comments so I guess Oats Win.
They are inexpensive, have a good shake ability, and a decent amount of Inoculation points. And I'm just bumping my own thread to get more data.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin]
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Pastywhyte said: Rye is cheap. Wheat is cheap. 12 cents a pound is what I pay for rye and wheat.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25467585#25467585
I still stand firm to say rye grain is an almost perfect spawn grain. wheat is also up there but wbs is second on my list.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: mushhead]
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I like both Rye and Oats but Rye is more expensive for me to buy based on where I live.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin]
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Sockadin said: Ok so it's not nearly done but. Mush Cult Grain Guide
Wow what a great help Sockadin! I voted for Oats because it'll be a decade before I finish the bag! But I got the impression Wheat was more popular...
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Inthepit]
#26824508 - 07/15/20 07:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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1. Rye 2. Wheat 3. WBF
And hands down without a doubt... fuck oats. They'll work if you have no other options but oats are far from ideal. The hulls on them make them light and "airy". I dont like the way that cultures grow on it. Always seems weaker than when the same culture is on denser grains, like rye.
A bushel of rye weighs 56 lb. A bushel and a half of oats weighs like 48 lb. I've noticed that difference in density makes a big difference in perfomance.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: LotKid]
#26824537 - 07/15/20 07:33 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Honestly I’ve been pretty impressed with popcorn, it colonized fast, easy to shake and seems to provide nutrients for flush after flush. Only problem is price. I’m almost done with my first 50lb bag of wheat. It’s worked good enough that I’ll be buying another bag.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: D3_Myc]
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Gone through more than 10 batches of Producers pride oats all of which contaminated before full colonization (unless li was used). Picked up a bag of rye from a local feed store and compared to the oats it’s so clean like holy shit. Took a couple tries to get optimal hydration down but I finally have clean looking growth from wedges as well as lc. The price sucks though.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26824569 - 07/15/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I like wheat berries. For the smell, color, easy prep and cheap price.
Same here. And if you sprout them they're a nice addition to a lentil curry dish. Gives it a bit if bite.
The last time I used rye (organic) the whole 25K bag became infested with weevils, to the point that I could feel the heat given off by them.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: deucedbi9]
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: D3_Myc]
#26826608 - 07/16/20 09:34 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Check farm and home stores if you like popcorn mine sells 50lb bags for $28
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Drboomer]
#27314911 - 05/19/21 10:37 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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We got a bunch of new faces in the Mush Cult.
Lets see what the new results are.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin]
#27315009 - 05/19/21 11:48 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Millet these days
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: D3_Myc]
#27315013 - 05/19/21 11:53 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's funny D3m you went from popcorn one of the largest to millet one of the smallest.
I am working millet and it's pretty good. It's hard to beat oats because they prep so easy. If I didn't have to boil feed corn for 45 minutes it would be my favorite.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: D3_Myc]
#27315015 - 05/19/21 11:54 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oats for me. Cheap and easy. Wife hates the way they smell though. Theres nothing else readily available with a comparable price for me.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Doctor Mario]
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Sorghum or millet
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Drboomer]
#27315072 - 05/19/21 12:22 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Drboomer said: That's funny D3m you went from popcorn one of the largest to millet one of the smallest.
I am working millet and it's pretty good. It's hard to beat oats because they prep so easy. If I didn't have to boil feed corn for 45 minutes it would be my favorite.
I only did popcorn for a couple runs. I really like it, but it’s not cost effective and I cannot find it in bulk locally.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Doctor Mario]
#27315079 - 05/19/21 12:30 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doctor Mario said: Oats for me. Cheap and easy. Wife hates the way they smell though. Theres nothing else readily available with a comparable price for me.
That's so funny: my wife was so happy since I switched (for the time being) from barley to oats because she likes the smell soooooooo much better. Almost got reassigned to the shed with WBS and barley both but oats she's fine with. 
Works great for me with the oats right meow because instead of going to the feed store, I just drive a couple miles to my local grocery store that happens to have a feed section for farm animals. I throw 50-100lbs at a time in with my milk and eggs and baddaboom baddabing
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: D3_Myc]
#27315154 - 05/19/21 01:41 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Did you ever try feed corn? Any hunting or farm store will have it around $7 to $10 for 30 to 50lbs. Walmart even carries it around me during hunting season.
Same prep boil for 45 mins just a few more sticks and such than popcorn. Colonizes, shakes and everything all the same just a slightly smaller less plump kernel.
I like it as much as popcorn it just takes a long prep.
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My wife says that it smells like dog vomit lol. I think it's a mixture of the distilled vinegar and the oat smell.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Drboomer]
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Feed Corn takes way longer to hydrate than 45 mins to get it to proper hydration. I recommend soaking for 24-36 hrs with potassium metabisulfite.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin]
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I don't even remember if I posted in here but wheat all day for me. $15/50lbs from the local feed store. I ran out at one point last month and used an old bag of oats leftover from when I used those. For the same price, roughly the same time in prep, wheat is just better.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: pureshrooming]
#27316891 - 05/20/21 08:18 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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CANARY SEED. its the cheapest option where i live. idiot proof prep, a lot of surface area...i started using it out of necessity but now that im used to it i wouldnt want to use anything else
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: bakedbeings]
#27316912 - 05/20/21 08:47 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wild bird seed Bought two 40# bags in the spring, somewhere around $20 each.
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I don't get the hate Brown rice gets. It's by far my most used grain type. Easy to prep and it seems like it's resistant to bacteria compared to the other grain types I've tried (Rye, Millet, Wbs)
Some people argue that rice is a bitch to shake up because it clumps and sticks together. I've been using long grained basmati rice and never really had that issue.
My last three 12qt shoeboxes produced 187g over 3 flushes. Threw them away after that. They never contammed
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Trippydippydoo]
#27317107 - 05/21/21 04:34 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Basmati rice vs wbs prices, pretty much a no Brainer.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Sockadin]
#27317317 - 05/21/21 09:09 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe it's because they feed corn I bought was barely bigger than a piece of Milo? I've only ever prepped that one bag.
I have read where someone did a 24 hour soak and brought it to a boil to steam dry. The grain looked really nice and plump with a squishy starch core.
It also makes me wonder if corn wouldn't be good for stones, the main complaints of oats for stones is picking out the hulls
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Drboomer]
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Drboomer said: Did you ever try feed corn? Any hunting or farm store will have it around $7 to $10 for 30 to 50lbs. Walmart even carries it around me during hunting season.
Same prep boil for 45 mins just a few more sticks and such than popcorn. Colonizes, shakes and everything all the same just a slightly smaller less plump kernel.
I like it as much as popcorn it just takes a long prep.
I've seen a few posts out there comparing feed corn to other grains, and the nutrients provided from it makes for a bit stunted of a grow.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Con]
#27317331 - 05/21/21 09:35 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've read that before too, however I'm my limited experience it's not true.
I've only ever ran one 50 lb bag so take it with a grain of salt. My first flush yields were the same as oats. They ran out 4 plus flushes no problem. I usually run into the substrate being gross crater filled mess before I ever have ran out of nutrition. While I'm sure it's technically true that other grains carry more nutrients, I think it's a situation where practically it dosnt matter.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: DERRAYLD]
#27317482 - 05/21/21 12:18 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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I guess, but i'll gladly pay 10bucks extra to not have to rinse and pick out all those fucking shells. dirt and twigs and other nonsense from WBS. Where i live i can easily get hold of a 44 pound (20kg) bag of brown Basmati rice for 30 bucks. Lasts me for a good long while.
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Re: What is your cultivation grain of choice? [Re: Trippydippydoo]
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Recently I heard you need not pick out the sunflower seeds and extraneous carp from wild bird seed. In the next couple of months, I should know whether that's true or not.
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I used to use oats religiously but my supplier was low one day and I switched to Red Winter Wheat - best choice ever. The grain gets so plump and soft on the outside. IMO, it's comparable to rye berries. I def highly recommend wheat if you can find it at a good price. $15-20 for a 50lb bag for me.
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