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Does it matter?
    #26577355 - 04/04/20 02:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I have a really nice cluster of large fruits and I want to get a spore print and maybe a clone or two.
Does it matter which one that I choose for the print? The biggest one is really beautiful, and I hate
to decapitate it. I don't mind taking a clone from it though!



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    #26577367 - 04/04/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Nope.. prints are all different genetics in themselves.. chances are they’re all from the same sub strain anyway, especially within a cluster..

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Re: Does it matter? [Re: fahtster]
    #26578467 - 04/05/20 12:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Nope.. prints are all different genetics in themselves.. chances are they’re all from the same sub strain anyway, especially within a cluster..

Faht




Mushroom genetics is fuzzy to me. I just have a hard time trying to understand what exactly is going
on with the DNA. I would think that the DNA of the fruit is the same as the mycelium. The pins elsewhere
on the cake are totally different. Obviously, not the same genetics as the "cluster of giants".
So this consolidated cake is not a single organism, but rather a collection of individuals? 
Shouldn't spores taken from one of the large ones have a greater chance of producing larger fruits
than spores from its smaller neighbors?


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Re: Does it matter? [Re: oldest hippie]
    #26578616 - 04/05/20 02:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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oldest hippie said:
Shouldn't spores taken from one of the large ones have a greater chance of producing larger fruits
than spores from its smaller neighbors?




The reason spores will product slightly different genetic traits is because there are literally hundreds of thousands of possible combinations that come off of a spore print that could germinate. Imagine if one couple had 1,000 kids (I know that would be insane, but bear with me). Even if it was the same two parents, chances are that not every kid would look exactly the same. Sure, there would be similarities, especially those phenotypes that come directly from the parents; however, just because dad is 6'3" doesn't mean every male is gonna grow to be 6'3" since mom's DNA being 5'2" plays an effect on that as well. Think of every spore of a print as a mix of thousands of dad's sperm and mom's eggs.

The only somewhat reliable way to isolate genetics with mushrooms is by using agar. This is because you're taking an already-germinated bit of mycelium and literally cloning based on its physical characteristics. After a few isolations you have mycelium that's growing from the same original replicated chunk of DNA, and that's why you tend to see more uniform flushes and fruits produced with isolated spawn grows.


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