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dilaudid iv safety
    #26575511 - 04/03/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So the doctor prescribed me dilaudid today for my opiate addiction

how safe is it to inject?

I good cotton filters , a proper cooker. And sterile water.
Are 8mg tablets going to be safe to inject?


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: biggysmall]
    #26575539 - 04/03/20 04:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don't know anything about injecting stuff but would advise against it in general whether it's safe or not. I advise against opiates as a whole unless you have serious pain. But it probably depends on how much of and the type of filler that's used.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: biggysmall] * 2
    #26575547 - 04/03/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

"Doctor", lol.
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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: azramb] * 1
    #26575552 - 04/03/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

A solid dose of edible cannabis helps almost as good or possibly better in some cases as any opiate at treating most types of pain I think.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: azramb] * 2
    #26575596 - 04/03/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

They are not safe without a micron filter.


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A solid dose of edible cannabis helps almost as good or possibly better in some cases as any opiate at treating most types of pain I think.




No it doesn't.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: Peyote Road]
    #26575600 - 04/03/20 04:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I've heard it does for some people. Probably depends on the person and the type of pain.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: azramb]
    #26575602 - 04/03/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not really sure though just something I heard from one person really lol.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: azramb]
    #26575610 - 04/03/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It seems to work really well for nerve pain and inflammation. I've heard edible works better than smoked but I don't really know.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: azramb] * 1
    #26575637 - 04/03/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

no it doesn’t,

And no you shouldn’t, not safe.  In short term you may be fine, but when your older, you’ll pay for it via some neuralgia or Vasocardio problems etc or something .

Why would a physician prescribe you 8mg fucking dilaudids for opiate addiction?  Does he run a private practice from an Escalade with rims?

Or

Were you in the icu a day or so ago?

If not I’m calling bullshit,  find a prescriber who can wean you with subs and use your time with it to taper and get some help man.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26575663 - 04/03/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

so in canada (bc) opiate addicts get much more support than they would in many other parts of the world. We have safe injection clinics, injectable hydromorphone for addicts, ect.

I understand there is a huge stigma against iv opiate use and for good reason.
I almost always go to the safe injection site when I use. the other day I used by myself and decided that I was putting myself at to mucuh risk . so I set up an appointment with my doctor. he seemed to think it was a good idea given I had failed all the opiate replacement therapies like methadone,subuxone , kadian.
ive been addicted to opiates for the better part of the year . by choice, I sort of wanted to get addicted. Its been pretty smooth sailing, as long as I go and get my medication in time there is no problem. Only issue is the sort of obligation I have to go and pick up my meds. But opiate addictions is honestly easy, I would take it over the tough relationship I have with my father any day. (check out his company XBIT on stock market, hes going to cure covid 19 with his fully monoclonal antibody platform soon)

Anyways
I cooked up the hydromorphone . 8mg at first. It separates very well . Much better then the fent/heroin that Ive been using. I only shoot up a few times a week when I feel like it.
so I think its relatively easy on the veins. but I take 600mg of morphine a day. so my tolerance is pretty high and I only got a pleasant buzz. im going to take less morphine so I can get high off my hydros. and generally stick to snorting them so I dont blow my veins .
Anyways your a pussy if you complain about opiate addiction imo
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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: biggysmall]
    #26575666 - 04/03/20 05:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

wow I didn't realize I was high because I was typing this. very lucid dream like high. nice feeling , feels like im floating on covid


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: biggysmall] * 7
    #26575670 - 04/03/20 05:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Let’s take away your 600mg of morphine and see who is a pussy.  Your literally full of shit and metaphorically too, good day sir deluded one.



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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26575702 - 04/03/20 05:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

ever heard of a taper Moron ?


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: biggysmall]
    #26575704 - 04/03/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

im telling you my experience. and ya I just made it all up to impress some loser on the shroomery.
Check out my families company xbiotech (Xbit)
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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: biggysmall] * 1
    #26575706 - 04/03/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:keyboardwarrior: :b00ftube:


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26575718 - 04/03/20 06:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

anyways just wanted to see if anyone had some informative input on the injection o dilaudid . dont feel like arguing with people who cant mentally handle my post.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: biggysmall] * 1
    #26575741 - 04/03/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You said you’ve got safe injection site clinics and a billion dollar family deal, go there


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: biggysmall] * 3
    #26575772 - 04/03/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26575777 - 04/03/20 06:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

theres safe injection clinics in Canada ? thats a fact.
The company I linked and the reason I linked it is because it just did a deal with the fda which may result in a treatment for covid 19. I have a lot of confidence that Xbiotech will be able to cure it , just like it did with ebola.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #26575783 - 04/03/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The longer you continue with opiates the harder it will be to stop.

I understand addiction, I'm not stranger to it. I know it isn't really about the drugs at the core. Whatever that core issue is you're facing won't go away by itself. But it will get harder to face and all the associated issues that come with opiate addiction will escalate.

All the treatments, substitutes and doctors in the world can't help you if in reality you just want to avoid the negative consequences of use, rather than to not want to use. This is why rehab and 12 step programs don't work.

Stay safe man. Be kind to yourself hey. Get out while you still can, before your brain becomes hard wired to only be happy with opiates. That can take years to overcome.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: biggysmall]
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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: Northerner]
    #26575831 - 04/03/20 06:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I totally understand what your saying . Opiates though as far as a "medication" seem to be much safer than many other drugs. There is no long term cognitive effects, nor is it very harmful to the body. Compare that to benzos , or anti -phycotics, and it actually seems favorable in terms of long term safety. I understand there are dangers, but the same is true for any medication . Im essentially self medicating.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: biggysmall]
    #26575892 - 04/03/20 07:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It depends on which brand you have. Back when I used to do them , the name brand you could crush the pill up , put the powder in the back of a syringe, draw up some hot water and shake the point....

It was the best way to do them.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: biggysmall]
    #26575907 - 04/03/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I understand how you feel. I self medicated for a large part of my life too. It's good that you understand what's going on.

Don't underestimate the risks of opiates though, 1000s of people die every day from them.

Stay safe brother.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: vinsue] * 1
    #26575998 - 04/03/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: morrowasted]
    #26576060 - 04/03/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

ive been shooting on and off since I was 17.  I think I joined the shroomery when I was like 14 (dont tell my mom , she's dead)
But for the most part I haven't really been seriously addicted to the needle. I sill have complete working veins, I only need to shoot in the crevices.
  I really dont feel like a slave to it , and I do feel like I can quit if I really needed to.
The problem for me is canada really supports addicts. Theres heroin dealers all over the place. places where you can shoot. Dr who give you drugs , ect. I need to go back to the states

Thanks for your concern northerner, they are dangerous , and In the end its probably not worth it . ive known good people who have died from this shit its sad. Im hoping the hydromorphone will dramatically reduce my risk of dying.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: Urb]
    #26576066 - 04/03/20 08:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I would pm you for advice on how to shoot it but im not sure about that method. I dont like drawing all that powder into the syringe , what if it gets in your veins? sounds like a serious risk for a embolism. I would prefer to mix it around while heating it , but it doesn't seem to get a huge dose of it.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: biggysmall]
    #26576218 - 04/03/20 09:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Racking the diluadid are much better long term imo


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #26577141 - 04/04/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

ya thats what im thinking. Im going to snort it long term. inject every once and a while. It seems to be more efficiently absorbed that way, and of course a lot safer


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: vinsue]
    #26577339 - 04/04/20 02:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Time flies.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6840301#6840301

:yawn: . . . :peace:




DAMN click that link OP,

As far as Canada goes, what a failed system for dealing with this shit. Safe use sights and government issued = tax payer issued heroin? Fuck right off.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: Led Zeppelin] * 1
    #26577527 - 04/04/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Time flies.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6840301#6840301

:yawn: . . . :peace:




DAMN click that link OP,

As far as Canada goes, what a failed system for dealing with this shit. Safe use sights and government issued = tax payer issued heroin? Fuck right off.




The more retarded among us might think it's better to spend millions locking repeat offenders up.

Personally I'd rather addicts were able to score their dope from a chemist, for the usual cost of a prescription, currently £9.15, (free for those on benefits) than have them roaming the land looking for someone to victimise to pay for their next fix.

Please follow your own advise and "Fuck right off".

I wonder how much, of something like Fentanyl or Carfentanyl it would take, and at what cost when manufactured legally, to supply every addict in the UK ~141,189 for a year, compared to the cost of a year in prison ~ £43,213.

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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: biggysmall]
    #26577663 - 04/04/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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....ive been addicted to opiates for the better part of the year . by choice, I sort of wanted to get addicted.





When it comes down to it, I feel that all addiction is a choice :shrug: ...Most people are just oblivious to the choices they're making and/or can't control themselves.



But why is developing an addiction something you actually wanted to happen?

I've never heard anyone say that becoming an addict is something they specifically desired and wanted to become lol.


I absolutely love opiates/opioids, I like to dabble on occasion....but having a desire to be or striving to be an addict is not something I've ever wanted lol. Requiring a drug everyday just to function and feel "normal" does not sound appealing at all. Why is that something you want? lol

That just sounds so fucking strange to me.





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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #26577670 - 04/04/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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As far as Canada goes, what a failed system for dealing with this shit. Safe use sights and government issued = tax payer issued heroin? Fuck right off.





:rolleyes:

How is it a failed system?...What other system/approach is more successful?

I'm curious what your ideal/preferred approach is to dealing with the issue of addiction in our society? If it was up to you, how would you "fix" the complex issue of addiction?




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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: openmind]
    #26577936 - 04/04/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

"dilaudid iv safety" what? :lol:

"the doctor prescribed me dilaudid today for my opiate addiction" WHAT? :laugh2:

If your at the point in addiction where you IV pills, are you really that worried about safety? lol Just crush that bitch up, squirt some water on it, mix it up real good, and draw it up.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: biggysmall]
    #26577996 - 04/04/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I would pm you for advice on how to shoot it but im not sure about that method. I dont like drawing all that powder into the syringe , what if it gets in your veins? sounds like a serious risk for a embolism. I would prefer to mix it around while heating it , but it doesn't seem to get a huge dose of it.




I am not telling you to do this. I don't know which brand you have. What I was saying is this; When I used to do them , the name brand broke down clean.  There were no trash left in the spoon. I've had off brand ones that weren't worth a fuck.  If you plan on IV, definitely spend the extra money for the name brand. It's like night and day vs. the generic.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: Urb]
    #26578251 - 04/04/20 10:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I never said a word about legalizing or not I just said that I don’t want to pay taxes that go towards an addicts addiction. Legalizing is the way to go..


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #26578730 - 04/05/20 04:48 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

the doctor prescribed me dilaudid today for my opiate addiction"

Damn, I missed that. 

I find it hard to believe that the Dr.  prescribed it for that and not under the guise as pain meds.

Am I wrong?

If I am , where is this magical place at (State) and how much are they charging?

Is he going to take you on as long term maintenance?  Does he know about the IV?

Dilaudid isn't worth a fuck unless it's IV.

I love Dilaudid , it's like two highs in one. When you first hit , it's almost like a coke rush you get , it's pretty brief... But afterwards the warm itch and fuzzy edges kick in.

All the dope around here is fent. Now. I haven't seen any brown in awhile. It's coming in all kinds of colors too. Yellow , blue...etc...

What sucks about it is , you do it and nod out , when you come out of the nod it's like your sober.

With the brown , it's like speed to me. I get into cleaning house and finishing projects...

One thing about these.colored.dopes , it's about 24 hours before the sickness kicks in. With the brown , it's roughly 12hours.


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I went to boys town in Nuevo Laredo when I was in my early ‘30s
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I paid probably $20 but I was so drunk I couldn’t get a hard on:faded:
-Whenever you hear 5 blasts from the emergency horn that’s the signal for a 30 minute buttfucking break-      Fiery said:
I wish I was a young sexy woman so I could have awesome sexy adventures all the time[/quote]
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i did the man bun.[/quote]
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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: openmind]
    #26578805 - 04/05/20 06:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

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....ive been addicted to opiates for the better part of the year . by choice, I sort of wanted to get addicted.





When it comes down to it, I feel that all addiction is a choice :shrug: ...Most people are just oblivious to the choices they're making and/or can't control themselves.



But why is developing an addiction something you actually wanted to happen?

I've never heard anyone say that becoming an addict is something they specifically desired and wanted to become lol.


I absolutely love opiates/opioids, I like to dabble on occasion....but having a desire to be or striving to be an addict is not something I've ever wanted lol. Requiring a drug everyday just to function and feel "normal" does not sound appealing at all. Why is that something you want? lol

That just sounds so fucking strange to me.





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But... Coffee... :wink:

I understand what you're saying.  I absolutely am set against being dependent or reliant upon a substance to function daily.  Then there's coffee, I love it.  I consume it by choice and continue to make that choice, but take it away for even part of a day and the headaches start.  Withdrawals can be debilitating and last for close to 2 weeks. :idigit:

I cannot parse the discrepancy in my thoughts and actions here... :shrug:


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    #26578809 - 04/05/20 06:23 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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the doctor prescribed me dilaudid today for my opiate addiction"

Damn, I missed that. 

I find it hard to believe that the Dr.  prescribed it for that and not under the guise as pain meds.

Am I wrong?

If I am , where is this magical place at (State) and how much are they charging?

Is he going to take you on as long term maintenance?  Does he know about the IV?

Dilaudid isn't worth a fuck unless it's IV.

I love Dilaudid , it's like two highs in one. When you first hit , it's almost like a coke rush you get , it's pretty brief... But afterwards the warm itch and fuzzy edges kick in.

All the dope around here is fent. Now. I haven't seen any brown in awhile. It's coming in all kinds of colors too. Yellow , blue...etc...

What sucks about it is , you do it and nod out , when you come out of the nod it's like your sober.

With the brown , it's like speed to me. I get into cleaning house and finishing projects...

One thing about these.colored.dopes , it's about 24 hours before the sickness kicks in. With the brown , it's roughly 12hours.




I got out of IVing dope right as fent was starting to get real big here around 2013-2014. It was just starting to show up everywhere. Me and my buddy used to talk about how funky it looked, like it looked like candy water in the rig. Those first fent bags had me OD'd twice in a month they were so strong.

I made the switch to PST and then it just blew the fuck up and people started dropping like flies all over the country.

Dilaudid was the first thing I ever IVd lol. I remember getting a couple from a guy at work, stopping to get my first bag of syringes, and running home to try it. Dilaudid was good, but my favorite pharma was Morphine. Those hot pins and needles all over just hurt so good!


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    #26578816 - 04/05/20 06:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You should take them as prescribed.  If they are prescibed to be taken orally and you inject them they aren't going to help you get over the addiction the way they would if you took them the way the doctor told you to.


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    #26579633 - 04/05/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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But... Coffee... :wink:

I understand what you're saying.  I absolutely am set against being dependent or reliant upon a substance to function daily.  Then there's coffee, I love it.  I consume it by choice and continue to make that choice, but take it away for even part of a day and the headaches start.  Withdrawals can be debilitating and last for close to 2 weeks. :idigit:

I cannot parse the discrepancy in my thoughts and actions here... :shrug:





:lol:


For myself, personally, coffee is hands down one of the most addictive drugs I've ever done :yesnod: . In ways it is more so than meth or opioids, I'm not even joking. It's not really detrimental and it is a really soft & benign "drug", but in regards to "cravings" and the impulse for "more", coffee is towards the top of my list for sure.

When I've been on the daily coffee habit/addiction, when I try to quit drinking it, I get insane cravings for it and crave it like a mo-fo in the mornings. Like I can't get it out of my mind, the smell & taste & caffeine buzz just keeps running through my mind and all I can think about is brewing up a cup. The way I get cravings for it is unlike any other drug I've done before. I think it's because there is lovely aroma and flavor combined with a nice buzz

If I start my day off with a cup of coffee...the following day I will be intensely craving a cup in the morning, and the next day, and the next, and so on.

It may be a very mild & subtle drug, but it is one of the most addictive for me for sure. And I have dabbled with things like meth & H, I still find coffee to be one of the most addictive.


With all that said...I don't necessarily consider "addiction" to be a bad thing at all, I see addiction as a spectrum of sorts. As long as it's not having a detrimental impact on one's body & one's life, utilizing a plant/drug to help or enhance one's day to day life is totally fine from my point of view :shrug: . I feel these plants are here for a reason and are meant to be utilized. Just when it gets to the point where people dig themselves into a hole where they need a drug just to barely function and barely feel normal/human, or where they'll experience intense W/D if they go with out, that's when I feel addiction becomes a problem.

I don't see a daily coffee habit/addiction as a "bad" thing...lots of folks use it to enhance their days and they don't experience anything detrimental because of their coffee addiction...but for me it gets to the point where I feel like I need to have a cup as soon as I wake up and I need that so I'm not super tired and out of it through out the day, and I'll start to get gnarly headaches too.

I love coffee, it's one of my favotire things/essences in life, but I try to only drink it on random days or special occasions..When I get into the daily habit/addiction it ultimately just ends up throwing my "system" out of balance, messes with my adrenals, makes me feel "off"...but I do looove me some coffee :drooling: lol.





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    #26579768 - 04/05/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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"dilaudid iv safety" what? :lol:

"the doctor prescribed me dilaudid today for my opiate addiction" WHAT? :laugh2:

If your at the point in addiction where you IV pills, are you really that worried about safety? lol Just crush that bitch up, squirt some water on it, mix it up real good, and draw it up.




Back in the 80's  me and a friend would crush em, pull the punger out and dump that shit in there. Replace the plunger and draw some water and cold shake em.
Pretty fucked up thinking back and concider the source it was even more fucked.

Did not die... There has got to be a better way to get high these days. Ever snort a D ?
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    #26579928 - 04/05/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Could we please quit talking about shooting up:crankey:
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    #26584112 - 04/07/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I think people get really freaked out about the whole "your shooting pills thing"

pills are not all made equal. Shooting a hydrocodone is not shooting dilaudid.
Dilaudid is prescribed to addicts in vending machines in its oral form for addicts to shoot up in Vancouver. The reason is the injectable form is much more expensive. I figure though that if doctors prescribe it to addicts to shoot up than it is relatively safe. Shooting some dirty ass Mexican tar heroin is probably muchI dirtier than an 8g dilaudid.

I crush up my daily amount of 24mg of Dilaudid and do it in a single shot. It has a very nice rush, comparable to heroin, probably better. Better than fent.
The reason I got this prescribed is because im shooting fentanyl. I do it safe injection sites but still shooting some random fent is about as dangerous as it comes, dilaudid has to be safer.
Unless someone can prove me otherwise there is no toxic or dangerous binders in the 8mg dilaudid oral tablets.
  Its a shame people here still preach prohibition when it comes to iv addicts.
I will be getting some .22 micron filters to make the process safer, although it Is probably not needed .
My doctor is a bit of a quack though, he almost prescribed me benzos on top of my 600mg morphine, 24 mg dilaudid and 1600mg gabapentin daily.
as you can imagine, I sleep alot.

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    #26584237 - 04/07/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

and maybe its just because im hardcore. Or because ive dealt with suffering and laughed at it in the face, I dont find opiate addiction to be that bad. Its probably because I have a constant supply to meds but you would think opaite addiction is the worst thing in the universe, and for me its just a mild inconvenience mixed with a couple small health deals and the occasional brutal illness.
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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: biggysmall]
    #26584256 - 04/07/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I guess if it works for you :shrug:

With a never ending supply, addiction isnt an issue. Ive been on opiates for a decade now. On suboxone maintenance the last year. If I had a never ending supply of dope or pills, Id probably have kept on going that way. But sooner or later, the supply ends. Spent several years on poppy seed tea. We thought itd never end. Good years. But even that went tits up. Sooner or later, it comes crashing down.


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    #26608163 - 04/17/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

im up to 80mg of dilaudid and 600mg of morphine prescribed to me daily.

I dont take that much but thats the maximum I can take.
I dont take any street drugs anymore.
Just a bit of vape thc..

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    #26608172 - 04/17/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thats INSANE lol. Even at the height of the pill mills here in the states, I doubt you could get a doctor to write up a daily script like that lol.

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    #26608628 - 04/17/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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biggysmall said:Anyways your a pussy if you complain about opiate addiction imo




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ever heard of a taper Moron ?





You have a serious drug problem and it's turning you into a nasty person who insults others for no reason.
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    #26608742 - 04/17/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

im being attacked and called a liar for making a post.
Who are you to determine if I have a drug problem or not?
Im a perfectly nice person and I am generally nicer than the average person, now that just sounds narcissistic but w/e


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    #26609405 - 04/18/20 01:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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ive been addicted to opiates for the better part of the year . by choice, I sort of wanted to get addicted. Its been pretty smooth sailing, as long as I go and get my medication in time there is no problem. Only issue is the sort of obligation I have to go and pick up my meds. But opiate addictions is honestly easy,



Ha. Not even a year in, so naive.

Just wait a few years, it'll get bad, if you don't die first.

I'm not here to stop you, live your life, have your own experiences man. I had to.

Maybe it is super easy to get prescribed mass amounts of opiates in Canada, irdk. But I feel like that won't last forever. And even if so it won't always be enough, with advanced usage comes advance tolerance. I know someone that got prescribed 510mg of oxy a day in the states and it wasn't enough after not very long, he was always sick halfway through the week. He's also dead now.

It will get worse, I promise, you're in for a ride if you keep doing it.

You know very little of opiate addiction, certainly not enough to call it "easy". Of course it's easy at first, if not people wouldn't continue doing it in the beginning.

Good luck regardless and I hope you find a path that works for you!

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    #26609410 - 04/18/20 01:14 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Time flies.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6840301#6840301

:yawn: . . . :peace:



wow...



Wow.

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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: Distorted Vision] * 1
    #26613076 - 04/19/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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A solid dose of edible cannabis helps almost as good or possibly better in some cases as any opiate at treating most types of pain I think.



Completely false.

Take it from someone who experiences nerve pain, physical pain, and phantom pain daily.
Cannabis is not a pain killer and doesn’t work even remotely as good as opiates for pain cessation.



Oh and @OP:
You absolutely can shoot 8mg Dilaudid.
It’s best if you have a micron filter but you’re gunna do it either way aren’t you?

At VERY LEAST use of the street works proper cotton filters. The ones that are super tight much more dense than a cigarette filter or cotton swab. Filter it twice. Maybe 3 times through new cotton. You don’t want any non soluble filler in your veins.

My method was to put the dilly in a spoon with 1cc water and gently heat, this’ll make the pill easier to crush. Next crush it in the water super fine. Heat up to almost a soft boil then stop and let the sediment settle.
Top the spoon trying to keep most of the sediment on in side.
Use your filter to suck up the solution.

Add another .5cc of water to the spoon and stir it good, heat lightly again, let the sediment settle, using a clean filter suck up the remaining solution.

Add both solutions to a clean spoon, lightly heat and look for anything waxy looking floating on the surface of the water. Filter again with a clean filter for safety.

If you do this very meticulously you won’t lose more than 1mg worth of Hydromorphone from your 8mg pill. You’ll be easily looking at a 7-8mg shot of delicious hydro!!

Of course there’s inherent risk with this method if you didn’t replace the cotton filters with a micron filter.

But I will admit I used that method to shoot Dilaudid for over a year. Am I fine now? Well I’m alive.


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Re: dilaudid iv safety [Re: Zombi3]
    #26613416 - 04/19/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Idc what you put into your body.

But from a harm reduction standpoint, I woudld never inject pills.

If you choose to, here is some advice on the subject.

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    #26614385 - 04/20/20 05:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Some pills are debatably cleaner to inject than street dope.
Many formulations use very little binder and the binder they do use is benign, even better sometimes it’s insoluble so you’re able to filter out %100 of the filler leaving a solution of pure clean drugs.

There’s a stigma behind pills and no I’m not endorsing it, I don’t support it, I’m a recovered addict, but it’s false to say that shooting pills has any more inherent risk than shooting anything else.


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    #26627022 - 04/25/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I appreciate the concern , and the humanity in this thread. I use proper cotton filters given to me by organizations. very tight, solid filters. I want to get micron filters.
I use alcohol to disinfect. I have a sterile cooker that I use every time. Clean syringe every time.
Sterle water given to me by same organizations, that is meant for shooting . Ive talked to the doctors and as far as they are concerned shooting dilaudid is much safer than fent or heroin There is no bacteria to worry about, and you know some asshole isn't going to put some poison or some bad shit into it. Its essentially just starch and hydrmorphone. Imo thats mug safer than street dope. especially when you know the dose.
So while I understand the concern, I feel much safer than the average dope addict. That being said it is obviously inherently risky, and not something really anyone should be doing on a daily basis if they value they health. Im going to be moving Ito a family friends house, and I will be stopping the injection part of the using.
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    #26627072 - 04/25/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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But opiate addictions is honestly easy, I would take it over the tough relationship I have with my father



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    #26627090 - 04/25/20 12:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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But opiate addictions is honestly easy, I would take it over the tough relationship I have with my father




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    #26627096 - 04/25/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

ok when I said that I meant at the time of that post my addiction was really of little consequence. I mean I would go to the pharmacy, pick up my dope, or go to the street find my dope and go to the safe injection site.
There was little downside, and honestly just upside of getting high a lot and hanging out with other degenerates shooting the shit.

Ive been to rehabs, ive been around many addicts and heard many stories. I know how hard it can be, but it doesn't mean opiate addictions is hard for everyone all the time. theres variation like anything in life


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    #26627129 - 04/25/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Ok I see what you meant.

Opiate addiction was an easy one to keep going in your life. It’s easy to get the drugs, it’s easy to get the gear, it’s easy to find junkies to spend your time with.
And I won’t lie some of the best people I’ve met were junkies, some of the best times I’ve had were shooting dope in abandoned buildings or squats.
When you have no aspirations and you’re living care free on the street then you’re right opiate addiction is pretty easy to live with. When it’s the only thing you have to worry about in a day it’s a very easy addiction to take care of. And it is enjoyable in its own way, the culture I mean. It’s like entering another dimension when opiates become your sole focus in life.


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    #26627150 - 04/25/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I dont think you are playing by the same rules as the rest of us, do you by chance have a guaranteed income? 

In that case I can kind of understand, without being challenged by survival in the real world an addiction could even be some sort of comfort and stability that adds meaning to your life.

It's still lame as fuck though, like oh yeah man let me get all faded and do absolutely nothing but drool on myself at the edge of death.  If you look at it at face value being a willing opiate addict is so pathetic.

I get you have emotional trauma, but wtf do you really think any of your problems will go away?  Now you just have a bad family relationship and an addiction, it's not an "or" situation.


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    #26627886 - 04/25/20 06:33 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

you are observant and your assumptions are fairly accurate.
I do have a wealthy family, my father is the CEO and founder of a couple large companies , one of them making it to the stock market.
  I may be moving into a house that is valued at 8 million dollars. At the same time though, I have dealt with a lot of abuse (emotional) from family members. I deal with severe anxiety and related mental health issues from this abuse and other issues. The opiates does provide stability and comfort for me , and it does add value to my life. So your pretty spot on there Its not like my life has always just sucked, but I certainly have been living a hard life for the past several years that is unrelated to the drug use.
I get that it is lame, but your judgment seems a bit misguided. You have thousands of posts on a drug website, who are you to judge me for using opiates ? 
I have a couple therapists and I work daily to deal with my issues. The opiates aren't something that I view as a cure all for my issues, just a crutch, but more so just something that I do to feel good.
I have been diagnosed with ptsd and have several other serious issues.

Life is good though, im happy to be alive and Im hopeful for the future. May we ride our figurative pleasure dildos into the future of happiness. you dig ?


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    #26639790 - 04/30/20 07:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Man I'm definitely projecting a bit, but my judgements are not misguided.  You're wasting your life if you think opiates are a fix.

If you have a disposable income and no worries to speak of I can see how appealing that would be, but deep down I know you have to want more and opiates will take not just your problems away, but your drive and your passions.

It's a killer even before it causes the death by respiratory depression, it really takes away the biggest things that make life worth living.


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