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Re: I find myself getting closer to bursting with rage over how Trump is handling this pandemic [Re: CookieCrumbs] 1
#26592567 - 04/11/20 01:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Anyway 59 million people got swine flu in the us in 2009. It killed 12000 Americans, 200000 worldwide. And it traveled from America.
This swine flu was known to be in American and Mexican pigs and could potentially hop to humans in the 90's.
And Obama did absolutely nothing. There's no mass closures or campaigns to inform the public. No travel bans when it could have been stopped at the American Mexican borders. Literally nothing was done except pushing for a vaccine quietly. And the first executions of that vaccine were bad.
To me it's pretty clear it's not who's sitting in tje oval office but rather the government itself and our culture.
Trump is obviously a product of that culture and we should be taking a good hard look at ourselves. But it's easier to look at someone else's faults. As if they exist in a vacuum.
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Re: I find myself getting closer to bursting with rage over how Trump is handling this pandemic [Re: DoneKildatReason] 3
#26592575 - 04/11/20 02:01 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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today is my and my gf first day without severe symptoms. My 30 year old healthy friend died alone in his basement quarantined away from his family and his wife found him the next morning. he had gone to the hospital for help twice. Its not like anything ive felt before. Its like a flu mixed with dope withdrawals mixed with a panic attack for 2 weeks. I made right with my god and made a video for my daughter in case i didnt make it. I have a underlying fear its not over and will come back
The ER looked like a warzone inside but the waiting rooms were empty. People almost crawling in getting denied care because they could sorta breathe. I blame our government and the nonprofits who told everyone it was only on surfaces to stop panic and protect the economy by hiding it was airborne. I knew it was from day 1. I blame healthcare corporations for throwing human lives at the pandemic instead of resources, and I blame politicians who have been sounding alarm bells since 9/11 about biological attack but were woefully unprepared to respond, I guess it was grandstanding.
We need a pandemic protocol, a policy of standard measures for isolation and mandatory quarantine which is lifted after measurable goals are obtained. Its not loss of rights, its survival.
You realize it doesnt matter who is president or what you were mad about the day before when you cant breathe.
All trump demonstrated is if you get enough borderline personalities behind you, you too can be the mouthpiece of a broken system and act only to protect the status quo of the oligarchy. he would have blown us all the fuck up like in the movie outbreak if he could get away with it and slept like a baby. Would prob hit the red button himself. Trump doesnt care about anyone and fooled a nation into thinking he would help them.
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Re: I find myself getting closer to bursting with rage over how Trump is handling this pandemic [Re: DoneKildatReason]
#26593735 - 04/11/20 03:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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DoneKildatReason said: no previously made "adequate safety info" or "solid plan" that exists for this situation it is new, takes time to manage, and much red tape to untangle
Yes, there was.
"The Global Health Security and Biodefense unit — responsible for pandemic preparedness — was established in 2015 by Barack Obama’s National Security Advisor, Susan Rice ( here ). The unit resided under the National Security Council (NSC) — a forum of White House personnel that advises the president on national security and foreign policy matters.
In May 2018, the team was disbanded and its head Timothy Ziemer, top White House official in the NSC for leading U.S. response against a pandemic, left the Trump administration, the Washington Post reported ( here ). Some members of the global health and security team were merged into other units within the NSC, the article said. "
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-trump-fired-pandemic-team/partly-false-claim-trump-fired-pandemic-response-team-in-2018-idUSKBN21C32M
We should have been much better prepared than we were for this pandemic. We had the tools available and Trump threw those tools away! We have wasted soo much time trying to prepare for this pandemic as it's happening. Mass testing should have been happening months ago. Mass testing is how we will be able to get out of this pandemic and re-open our economy.
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DoneKildatReason said: That is why I say, NO CRED. And no, you haven't "clearly layed" out anything, except proof that you will accept nothing as positive from Trump, and will side with all of the negative twists and spins - and anyone who doesn't agree with your biased perception is wrong, and ignorant. Thankfully you unreasonable left-wing-nutz who think the bodies should be laid at Trumps feet are in the minority!
I agree, Trump takes no credit for the failed response of the USA to this pandemic. And no, I review all evidence of something and then make an educated decision. If there is real evidence of something that proves me wrong then I will admit I'm wrong and grow mentally. It's just that Trump is wrong almost every time, so it creates an illusion that I will side with all negative twists/spins. Don't blame me for that, blame Trump! Go talk to him and try to convince him to stop being wrong all the time. I'd like you to review the evidence I posted above of Trump disbanding the pandemic preparedness team in 2018.
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Re: I find myself getting closer to bursting with rage over how Trump is handling this pandemic [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26593752 - 04/11/20 03:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said: This swine flu was known to be in American and Mexican pigs and could potentially hop to humans in the 90's.
And Obama did absolutely nothing. There's no mass closures or campaigns to inform the public. No travel bans when it could have been stopped at the American Mexican borders. Literally nothing was done except pushing for a vaccine quietly. And the first executions of that vaccine were bad.
To me it's pretty clear it's not who's sitting in tje oval office but rather the government itself and our culture.
Swine Flu isn't nearly as contagious as COVID19. Swine flu has a much shorter incubation period than COVID19. This means a much stronger response is needed for COVID19 when compared to Swine Flu.
Obama realized we need a pandemic team, so that's why he made one in 2015. Then in 2018 Trump got rid of it because he likes to undue things Obama did, probably gives him a little rush of dopamine.
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Re: I find myself getting closer to bursting with rage over how Trump is handling this pandemic [Re: scrantonstrangler]
#26593858 - 04/11/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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@scrantonstrangler, sorry to hear about your friend. I can't imagine that.
I'm super glad you and your girl are feeling better!!! As you might know by now, a lot of people say they get better from COVID and then get worse the next day. Not trying to scare you, but please stay cautious and don't overexert yourself til you're 100% better.
The rest of your post I agree with. It's nice to see other people with clarity on the situation.
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Re: I find myself getting closer to bursting with rage over how Trump is handling this pandemic [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] 2
#26595948 - 04/12/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thank you. Yes already went through the false sense of being well then getting even worse. I do have some fear I will get sick again but feeling pretty good today. No smell, stomach issues, fatigue. No way to be sure but doing well.
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