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Preparing grains without boiling
    #26575002 - 04/03/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I plan to prepare my oats by soaking rather than boiling. I have too many burst oats when boiling, which was probably part of the reason I was loosing 30% of the bags I made.

Approximately How long should I let the oats dry after soaking for 24 hours?


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Re: Preparing grains without boiling [Re: mycopiss]
    #26575010 - 04/03/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It's really hard to say because the soak doesn't soften them enough to retain the moisture you need for a quick colonization. Also one of the benefits to boiling is the steam evaporation off the outside of the kernal.

How were you boiling grains? I found if you wait until you have a really hard boil and then add them at that point for about 10-15 mins tops. Then steam evaporation and load you will end up with a much cleaner grain.

This picture is a proper boil and a improper boil. I also got drunk and forgot to take them off the fire. They were all mushy but I loaded them and PC'd them anyway just for fun.


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Re: Preparing grains without boiling [Re: Sockadin]
    #26575024 - 04/03/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So don't boil as long, or at all.

I bring my soaking grain to a point where I see steam and some very slight bubbling, no where near boiling.

Myc will do fine with dryer grains.


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Re: Preparing grains without boiling [Re: HamHead]
    #26575045 - 04/03/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

so I should only be adding the grains after the water has heated? or add the grains before heating?

That could have been the issue. I always put the grains in the pot first then heat until it boils.

Either way soaking without heating on the stove seems much more time efficient to me. I would rather let them soak for 24 hrs than mess with the stove, especially since I am doing more than a few tubs

I saw a post where somebody mentioned they use hot water to soak then drain it a couple times and refill with more hot water as that will cause them to soak up more water.


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Re: Preparing grains without boiling [Re: mycopiss]
    #26575058 - 04/03/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Wait till you have a rolling boil and add the grains. The amount of time they boil between adding and straining will determine you hydration.


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Re: Preparing grains without boiling [Re: Sockadin]
    #26575069 - 04/03/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Are you set on using oats?

Grab some wheat. 20 bucks for 25kg.
Rinse. boil for 20min. done.


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Re: Preparing grains without boiling [Re: staytrippy420]
    #26575085 - 04/03/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No Im ok with wheat also. I just dont know where to get it. do feed stores usually carry it? Sure sounds easier does wheat soak up and hold the water easier?


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Re: Preparing grains without boiling [Re: mycopiss] * 1
    #26575087 - 04/03/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

All grains are stupid easy to prep. Learn from your mistakes. Don't repeat. Try again. Take notes


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Re: Preparing grains without boiling [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26575099 - 04/03/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah the wheat I get is from a feed store. Comes super dirty but just rinse good.

This is the tek I use.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26326713/fpart/1/vc/1

But BOD’s right it’s all just trial and error. You just gotta go through the learning curve.


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Re: Preparing grains without boiling [Re: mycopiss]
    #26575115 - 04/03/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ive made many mistakes. only way to learn. Im still new to the grain prep. used to buy pre-made bags but its too damn expensive.


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Re: Preparing grains without boiling [Re: mycopiss] * 1
    #26575124 - 04/03/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I hear that. I have gotten so cheep I'm working on making my own coir substitute.


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Re: Preparing grains without boiling [Re: mycopiss]
    #26575136 - 04/03/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

We’ve all been there. Don’t give up. You got this shit!

Making shrooms is easy you just gotta figure out the recipe.


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Re: Preparing grains without boiling [Re: staytrippy420]
    #26575169 - 04/03/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

dude yea its so frustrating sometimes but I am fucking determined to get this down.  I almost wanted to quit especially after all this cobweb mold shit.


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Re: Preparing grains without boiling [Re: mycopiss]
    #26575176 - 04/03/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Don’t give up man. If you need any teks check the link in my signature.


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