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Re: Please help me figure out what I'm doing wrong. I need to micro dose but I keep messing up [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26576482 - 04/04/20 12:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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This thread made me thoroughly inspect all my lids with RTV adhered SFD's.
They look great to the naked eye, the discs seemed solid and sealed but once i took a closer look i noticed these deceptive fucks were not creating a solid adhesion. Could peel em right up.
I was so shocked that these went unnoticed that i went on a polyfill lid making frenzy.
Fucking RTV.
Edited by shevanel (04/04/20 12:38 AM)
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Re: Please help me figure out what I'm doing wrong. I need to micro dose but I keep messing up [Re: shevanel]
#26576700 - 04/04/20 05:18 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I had the same problem, the SFD's I glued on with silicone could be peeled right off. Just take a piece of sandpaper and roughen up the part where you apply the silicone, and they'll stick for good.
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Re: Please help me figure out what I'm doing wrong. I need to micro dose but I keep messing up [Re: Morbility]
#26576783 - 04/04/20 07:14 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Morbility said: Bump
Added a link in my sig to the Poly-Fil tek I made a while back. Finally migrated it to my journal here on the board.
Thanks man. Earlier you mentioned you had contam issues.
What prep work did you mess up on, and what do you think contributed to your contam issues?
Did you use a SAB?
Any idea where I can buy like 2 Synthetic filters without being ripped off? I only see ones on amazon that are 12 for 20. and I don't need 11 or 10 extra laying around. I just dont want to pay $10 for 2 filters.
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Re: Please help me figure out what I'm doing wrong. I need to micro dose but I keep messing up [Re: IFreeMe]
#26576818 - 04/04/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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What prep work did you mess up on, and what do you think contributed to your contam issues?
Bod and others seemed to have great luck with his simple oat prep. Following that to a "T" I had loads of trouble starting out. Partly from loading too wet, partly because (in my opinion) my grains had a high endospore load and they aren't very good quality. My PC cycle now runs 4 hours at ~19 PSI. It's a time suck, but for me it works with what I've got. My first batch of spores were also total bunk, causing me to question and doubt every aspect of my sterile tek. Honestly, I could probably back way off my methods at this point now that I have viable materials and more experience, but my prep work is almost to the point of ritual now.
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Did you use a SAB?
Yes. I lurked these forums for close to a year before gathering materials and starting. I went right to agar and used a SAB to minimize my failure rate once I was ready.
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Any idea where I can buy like 2 Synthetic filters without being ripped off?
Sorry. When I switched to SFDs I just ran through the trusted vendor list here and compared all the prices, then bought a shitload so that I have a lifetime supply. A cheaper alternative that you might have luck with is E-Z felt. It's kind of like a bootleg version of an SFD using pre-ironed Poly-Fil. You can order it or hit up the crafts store for sheets of it. If you look for "E-Z Felt Tek" with the search engine here there's a really good write-up and thread detailing its use.
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Re: Please help me figure out what I'm doing wrong. I need to micro dose but I keep messing up [Re: Morbility]
#26576847 - 04/04/20 08:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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SFD cost about a ducet a piece. 1.25 from out grow, but you have to consider shipping so maybe grab some other stuff too
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Re: Please help me figure out what I'm doing wrong. I need to micro dose but I keep messing up [Re: Roger Clemency]
#26577259 - 04/04/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Plastic lids are avail most anywhere canning supplies are sold, Amazon has a 24 count of regular size for $11.98 (Pinnacle Mercantile). I switched to plastic because the edges of drilled metal holes rust and compromised the injection ports syliconed to the lid, plus, the rusted holes with poly were hard to clean out after a run. To make the poly plugs I just take a big pinch of poly from my bag, about the size of a golf ball, and roll it between my palms using a lot of pressure. I keep it tight as I begin to stuff it thru the bottom of the lid. Once a small amount is protruding I pinch it and twist/pull till it's far enough that it can't pull itself back thru. If a bunch is still hanging on the bottom side I snip most of it off with scissors. Once my jars have been dumped its simple to pull and toss the poly plugs and wash the lids for next time. I leave the injection ports in place because they are not a problem if I later use the jars for G2G. Felt looks very appealing, and neater, but it seems to me they are impossible to fully clean between runs while fresh poly plugs cost about a penny each.

Drilling cheap plastic lids is tricky, the bit wants to grab and then crack the edge of the hole. I learned to use fingers on my left hand to push HARD around the hole location, lid sitting on a piece of scrap 2x10", and use a sharp bit at high speed but with very little pressure on the drill. Let the bit shave off and eventually thru the plastic. Drill thru the bottom of the lid. Expect to mess up on a couple lids till you get it down.
Edited by InfraredRick (04/04/20 02:05 PM)
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Re: Please help me figure out what I'm doing wrong. I need to micro dose but I keep messing up [Re: InfraredRick]
#26577409 - 04/04/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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(Its just wonderful to work with cool folks like Morbility to help solve problems for people who are just starting out. I'm still pretty new but it feels good to share info. Many thanks to the masters who taught us and pats on backs all around.)
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Re: Please help me figure out what I'm doing wrong. I need to micro dose but I keep messing up [Re: InfraredRick]
#26577483 - 04/04/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I firmly believe that these substances can heal broken minds and change lives for the better. The information in these forums is invaluable. I've gotten great advice here both passively and actively, so why not do what I can to pay it forward?
Besides that, it's a fun hobby and so is tripping 
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Re: Please help me figure out what I'm doing wrong. I need to micro dose but I keep messing up [Re: Morbility]
#26577546 - 04/04/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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For putting holes in plastic lids I bet hitting the spot with a torch for a second first and then quickly doing the drill would make it pretty easy.
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Re: Please help me figure out what I'm doing wrong. I need to micro dose but I keep messing up [Re: Roger Clemency]
#26580292 - 04/05/20 07:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The Abhorrent Chef said: SFD cost about a ducet a piece. 1.25 from out grow, but you have to consider shipping so maybe grab some other stuff too
They only have Cellulose, which I read is not as good as SFD.
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Re: Please help me figure out what I'm doing wrong. I need to micro dose but I keep messing up [Re: IFreeMe]
#26580495 - 04/05/20 08:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I did a quick look and it seems like at least a few trusted cultivators here have used the cellulose ones and didn't have any complaints, but there are a few limitations and differences. Overall it seems like kind of a mixed bag. At the cost on out-grow, I'd say it's worth a shot just for the hell of it to try them out.
Relevant thread here.
-------------------- Picture-Perfect Poly Lids Simple & Temporary One-Piece Metal Lids "Life is a great wheel. Sometimes it grinds you down into the mud, and other times it lifts you up into the light." "Are we strapped to this wheel?" "That's a given. The point is, is that most times you get a second chance. You just gotta wait for the wheel."
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Re: Please help me figure out what I'm doing wrong. I need to micro dose but I keep messing up [Re: Morbility]
#26580589 - 04/05/20 09:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Morbility said: I did a quick look and it seems like at least a few trusted cultivators here have used the cellulose ones and didn't have any complaints, but there are a few limitations and differences. Overall it seems like kind of a mixed bag. At the cost on out-grow, I'd say it's worth a shot just for the hell of it to try them out.
Relevant thread here.
Yea that was the one that convinced me not to get them.
I'll wait a little longer to see if anyone wants to take pity on me. If not I'll try your poly tek. I got some of that cord handy so I have all the supplies on hand.
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Re: Please help me figure out what I'm doing wrong. I need to micro dose but I keep messing up [Re: IFreeMe]
#26580607 - 04/05/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wow, heating the lid first. Brilliant! Thanks Aka.
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Re: Please help me figure out what I'm doing wrong. I need to micro dose but I keep messing up [Re: IFreeMe]
#26581168 - 04/06/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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IFreeMe said:
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The Abhorrent Chef said: SFD cost about a ducet a piece. 1.25 from out grow, but you have to consider shipping so maybe grab some other stuff too
They only have Cellulose, which I read is not as good as SFD.
Shroom supply has sfd for about a dollar as well
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