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Re: Brewers yeast is now producing psilocybin [Re: dizzy_simmons]
    #26591912 - 04/10/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

By "control" I meant they can keep the production(and profits from) within the industry and not have to pay a mushroom farmer, the statement had nothing to do with the actions of others or clandestine production.

But since you are on the topic, this isn't something you can obtain just by getting "near" it(and chances are you would never be near it anyways, especially not in the same building with it). You'd have a much easier time obtaining bulk amounts of the psilocybin produced by said yeast than the yeast itself...do you generally find buying pure(before being formulated for market) schedule II drugs straight from the pharma producers easy? Or something that can be done through determination alone?

And I wouldn't recommend stealing GMO corn genetics. If you are growing it for profit you are opening yourself up to a lawsuit which will result in at least the loss of your crop if not much, much more...if you are just feeding yourself, is being able to spray your garden with pesticides really worth growing a dull generic strain ?



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Re: Brewers yeast is now producing psilocybin [Re: dizzy_simmons]
    #26600105 - 04/14/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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What if you add msg to the brew & get an ethanol, GHB, psilocybin combo? :lol:



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Re: Brewers yeast is now producing psilocybin [Re: Holybullshit]
    #26601170 - 04/14/20 05:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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...do you generally find buying pure(before being formulated for market) schedule II drugs straight from the pharma producers easy? Or something that can be done through determination alone?




Straight from the pharmaceutical companies? No.
Straight from some guy in China who doesn't care about another country's drug laws or patents? I will neither confirm nor deny...

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And I wouldn't recommend stealing GMO corn genetics. If you are growing it for profit...




I already addressed that, but I'm simply using GMO corn analogously. Yeast are microscopic organisms that lend themselves to being spread everywhere, intentionally or otherwise.


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Re: Brewers yeast is now producing psilocybin [Re: carnalrekt]
    #26608241 - 04/17/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

lemme get my hands on some of that


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Re: Brewers yeast is now producing psilocybin [Re: dizzy_simmons]
    #26608734 - 04/17/20 06:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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“Control” hasn’t worked for mushrooms or GMO corn. I doubt it will work for this. With a little luck it’ll be available “for microscopy use only :shrug:




It will absolutely work for this, if psilocybin is brought to market as a prescription medicine you can bet your ass it will be sourced from yeast.

And about 90% of the soybeans and 70% of the cotton and corn grown in the US are roundup ready...and China just approved GMO corn now making Syngenta the largest corn seed supplier in Asia, so I'm not sure what you consider "working".




If by “control” you mean the method of production is so efficient someone would have to be brain dead not to use it as part of their business, then yeah, I’ll give you that hands down. But I can plant my own  corn right next to a plot of “sterile” GMO corn & “steal” those genes. Their “control” only prevents legal competition. It keeps the method out of the hands of other businesses, not the average (determined)  joe.




They would certainly pasteurize the product before selling, so the only feasible way it would become public is if someone found a way to sneak it out of the lab...

Anyone want a temporary job going Undercover?
All applicants must cover their own legal cost in the event the lab finds out who dunnit.


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Re: Brewers yeast is now producing psilocybin [Re: Woodlandcarrot]
    #26611322 - 04/18/20 07:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

what the...:eek:


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Re: Brewers yeast is now producing psilocybin [Re: meepins]
    #26622621 - 04/23/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ok so in this duplicate news post a couple more interesting responses to this whole debate were added
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26612128

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This is a duplicate and likely to get closed, but I don't understand why people think this GMO strain is any more likely to get into the hands of the general public or be used for clandestine production any more than the strains that produce morphine.

Also, even if it did, I imagine that unless kept strictly isolated it would become contaminated with wild yeast and the inserted genes would be bred out fairly quickly.





And a discussion that the methods described might be copied, since theyre described in detail, by a clansestine biochemist. Also the discussion why cartels havent done this for opiod or opiod precursor producing yeast, which seems to exist also already.
So interesting stuff, check it out.

I also liked these

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And something tells me they didn't produce a modified strain of yeast with dominant genes allowing it to produce powerful hallucinogenic schedule I drugs...






Something tells me that isn't necessarily a factor we can 100% predict when using biochemical (I.e., biologically sourced) methods to splice & transfer genes. And again, we don't know whether this modification would make the yeast more or less fit. Psilocybin exists in other fungi for a reason, even if we don't know what that reason is.

Just my two cents.





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Re: Brewers yeast is now producing psilocybin [Re: polaritymind]
    #26648791 - 05/04/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeast is an amazing organism


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Re: Brewers yeast is now producing psilocybin [Re: Az88]
    #26650215 - 05/05/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I have an amazing organism.:smirk:


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Re: Brewers yeast is now producing psilocybin [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26706878 - 05/30/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

:shocked: omgyes


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Re: Brewers yeast is now producing psilocybin [Re: meepins]
    #27998465 - 10/14/22 11:12 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Saw this and had to think back to this thread:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21655979.2021.1987090

Would be very curious, has anyone of you gotten their hands on any of the strains or heard of someone who did?


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