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tripp23
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Re: Do you think coronavirus is a bioweapon? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26573960 - 04/02/20 08:27 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes
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And if it wasnt.. which is really easy to do btw.. then the media obviously has an agenda of distraction for whatever reason.
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spirit_shadow
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Re: Do you think coronavirus is a bioweapon? [Re: tripp23] 1
#26573975 - 04/02/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Bioweapon? I think viruses are not from this world. They are like rocks.....with dna/rna.
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QuantumMeltdown
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Re: Do you think coronavirus is a bioweapon? [Re: spirit_shadow]
#26573980 - 04/02/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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i do believe it was bioweapon like an earlier poster had said I really feared from the beggining it was a test of the delivery mechanism with a weaker version now all they have to do is gene splice or whatever they do and shazam a much more lethal version in their back pockets.
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LogicaL Chaos
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Re: Do you think coronavirus is a bioweapon? [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
#26574101 - 04/02/20 10:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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The US Military has a Top Secret bioweapons lab in Utah: https://www.businessinsider.com/us-government-tests-deadly-chemical-warfare-agents-utah-2019-10
Perhaps China has the same thing in their country....
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spirit_shadow
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Re: Do you think coronavirus is a bioweapon? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26574263 - 04/02/20 11:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's not secret if everyone knows about it , so wouldn't that be just a regular bioweapon testing facility?
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LogicaL Chaos
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Re: Do you think coronavirus is a bioweapon? [Re: spirit_shadow]
#26574299 - 04/03/20 12:09 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Its secret cause u dont know whats going on there but you know its there, much like Area 51 and other secret rural military bases.
Highly known yet highly secret at the same time.
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Re: Do you think coronavirus is a bioweapon? [Re: cinderblock]
#26574309 - 04/03/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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You can't tell me this shit is natural.
No, this is completely natural that humans are evil bastards. We are gonna destroy ourselves sooner or later.
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Re: Do you think coronavirus is a bioweapon? [Re: Ethric]
#26574314 - 04/03/20 12:24 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Do you think coronavirus is a bioweapon? [Re: cinderblock]
#26574396 - 04/03/20 01:55 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It is very much a bio weapon. All signs point to it escaping from a lab. It is the perfect spreading virus with delays of symptoms and some people being asymptomatic. Everything we know as the people on the streets see this as a bad flu. Yet instantly governments are shutting things down left and right. There are people out there that know a lot more about this then they are telling us. This may not be the big bad bioweopon, but it sure as shit could be the making of one. A few tweaks to this and we got a serious collapse. This aint the spanish flu.
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Asante
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Re: Do you think coronavirus is a bioweapon? [Re: 4runner]
#26574455 - 04/03/20 03:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Dutch are using it as a bioweapon.
The Dutch use a lot of diseases as swear words, but now you read and hear surprisingly often that, cops, rescue worker and personnel are deliberately coughed or apat in the face or threatened with that with the warning that the person has corona.
Like a bunch of AIDS junkies threatening with dirty needles
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Re: Do you think coronavirus is a bioweapon? [Re: Asante]
#26574488 - 04/03/20 04:07 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Aspira apartments JP Nagar [Re: cinderblock]
#26574493 - 04/03/20 04:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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bodhisatta 
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Corona virus isn't a bioweapon. And if you think it is. Ask your doctor about antipsychotics [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26574546 - 04/03/20 05:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Retracting its genetic profile doesn't lead back to any lab at all...
They know where it came from. Scientists figured it out before governments did. Scientists from many different countries.
The only way it's a bioweapon is if the Chinese government labs also have a time machine to go back and make it look like it came from bats
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Re: Corona virus isn't a bioweapon. And if you think it is. Ask your doctor about antipsychotics [Re: bodhisatta]
#26574555 - 04/03/20 05:11 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Retracting its genetic profile doesn't lead back to any lab at all...
They know where it came from. Scientists figured it out before governments did. Scientists from many different countries.
The only way it's a bioweapon is if the Chinese government labs also have a time machine to go back and make it look like it came from bats
Go away brah, it’s all a conspiracy , the illuminaughty gang made it a billion years ago and now us plebs are just feeling their might.
You and your science ain’t welcome here. This thread isn’t a question or discussion, we know i5s a bioweapon.
Body sat fart probably thinks the world is round.
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larry.fisherman
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Re: Do you think coronavirus is a bioweapon? [Re: larry.fisherman]
#26574625 - 04/03/20 06:33 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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larry.fisherman said: I have no idea, but I know that every day there's more and more information being leaked or discovered.
https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-1.18787
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Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research
Lab-made coronavirus related to SARS can infect human cells.
12 November 2015
An experiment that created a hybrid version of a bat coronavirus — one related to the virus that causes SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) — has triggered renewed debate over whether engineering lab variants of viruses with possible pandemic potential is worth the risks.
In an article published in Nature Medicine on 9 November, scientists investigated a virus called SHC014, which is found in horseshoe bats in China. The researchers created a chimaeric virus, made up of a surface protein of SHC014 and the backbone of a SARS virus that had been adapted to grow in mice and to mimic human disease. The chimaera infected human airway cells — proving that the surface protein of SHC014 has the necessary structure to bind to a key receptor on the cells and to infect them. It also caused disease in mice, but did not kill them.
Although almost all coronaviruses isolated from bats have not been able to bind to the key human receptor, SHC014 is not the first that can do so. In 2013, researchers reported this ability for the first time in a different coronavirus isolated from the same bat population.
The findings reinforce suspicions that bat coronaviruses capable of directly infecting humans (rather than first needing to evolve in an intermediate animal host) may be more common than previously thought, the researchers say.
But other virologists question whether the information gleaned from the experiment justifies the potential risk. Although the extent of any risk is difficult to assess, Simon Wain-Hobson, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, points out that the researchers have created a novel virus that “grows remarkably well” in human cells. “If the virus escaped, nobody could predict the trajectory,” he says.
Creation of a chimaera
The argument is essentially a rerun of the debate over whether to allow lab research that increases the virulence, ease of spread or host range of dangerous pathogens — what is known as ‘gain-of-function’ research. In October 2014, the US government imposed a moratorium on federal funding of such research on the viruses that cause SARS, influenza and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome, a deadly disease caused by a virus that sporadically jumps from camels to people).
The latest study was already under way before the US moratorium began, and the US National Institutes of Health (NIH) allowed it to proceed while it was under review by the agency, says Ralph Baric, an infectious-disease researcher at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, a co-author of the study. The NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the moratorium, he says.
But Wain-Hobson disapproves of the study because, he says, it provides little benefit, and reveals little about the risk that the wild SHC014 virus in bats poses to humans.
Other experiments in the study show that the virus in wild bats would need to evolve to pose any threat to humans — a change that may never happen, although it cannot be ruled out. Baric and his team reconstructed the wild virus from its genome sequence and found that it grew poorly in human cell cultures and caused no significant disease in mice.
“The only impact of this work is the creation, in a lab, of a new, non-natural risk,” agrees Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and biodefence expert at Rutgers University in Piscataway, New Jersey. Both Ebright and Wain-Hobson are long-standing critics of gain-of-function research.
In their paper, the study authors also concede that funders may think twice about allowing such experiments in the future. "Scientific review panels may deem similar studies building chimeric viruses based on circulating strains too risky to pursue," they write, adding that discussion is needed as to "whether these types of chimeric virus studies warrant further investigation versus the inherent risks involved”.
Useful research
But Baric and others say the research did have benefits. The study findings “move this virus from a candidate emerging pathogen to a clear and present danger”, says Peter Daszak, who co-authored the 2013 paper. Daszak is president of the EcoHealth Alliance, an international network of scientists, headquartered in New York City, that samples viruses from animals and people in emerging-diseases hotspots across the globe.
Studies testing hybrid viruses in human cell culture and animal models are limited in what they can say about the threat posed by a wild virus, Daszak agrees. But he argues that they can help indicate which pathogens should be prioritized for further research attention.
Without the experiments, says Baric, the SHC014 virus would still be seen as not a threat. Previously, scientists had believed, on the basis of molecular modelling and other studies, that it should not be able to infect human cells. The latest work shows that the virus has already overcome critical barriers, such as being able to latch onto human receptors and efficiently infect human airway cells, he says. “I don't think you can ignore that.” He plans to do further studies with the virus in non-human primates, which may yield data more relevant to humans.
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