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Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged.
    #26571485 - 04/01/20 03:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I had a verbal agreement with an airBnB guest after his stay. He always paid on time and was pretty chill.

I just got news my uncle has cancer and because of the times me and my dad went and trimmed a tree for him. When I look at my phone he sent me a text saying he is moving out and isn't really like this. etc b.s.


He left behind a scooter, rocking chair, clothes, and some other dumb shit.
My entire yard is littered with cigarette butts and during a pandemic I am not picking up something that has been in someones mouth.

Prior to this he had a girl come over twice so I guess he moved in with her. He did all his laundry while I was gone and used all my detergent. Took dryer lint and tossed it on the floor instead of walking 10ft to the trash can. Took my towels and my toilet paper which I purchased. He also took my last working lighter I won in a venom extracts raffle. Ate a bowl of cereal and tossed it in the sink. My Milk.

we are in a shelter in place and he has forced me to file for eviction as an officer said he would have the right to come back. I sent the eviction notices with 1500$ in damages and court fees.

-Cleaning Fee (bathroom, cig butt (biohazard), storage of property, smoking inside garage. stolen items. placed rag over sensor of garage making garage malfunction.

He is also late on rent but idc.

Where bouts UNKNOWN

And mainly risking my life and others by having to go to the post office to mail papers to the court.

Cool if he doesn't show and I get default but we shall see.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: Gorlax] * 2
    #26571581 - 04/01/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

you dont care about the rent that is owed but you want $1500 to clean up some cigarette butts? alrighty then.

id say lesson learned. dont let strangers live with you.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26571755 - 04/01/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I am going to take the rent a casualty loss. Also judge is more likely to be sympathetic to someone who moved out during a pandemic so suing for damages gets around that.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: Gorlax]
    #26571821 - 04/01/20 07:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

so is there a lease? a signed rental contract? airBnB is prepaid, correct?


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26571855 - 04/01/20 07:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

AirBnb then Lease for month to month after that.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: Gorlax]
    #26571918 - 04/01/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

a signed lease? you said word of mouth agreement. if there was no signed contract for him to live there then you dont have much on your side with regard to landlord/tenant laws.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26572221 - 04/01/20 10:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

are you even able to evict if he did come back?

isn't eviction not possible in most states right now?


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26572281 - 04/01/20 11:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

AZ wild west and yes I can via court clerk.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: Gorlax]
    #26572289 - 04/01/20 11:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

no lease, no eviction. you can have him removed from your private residence if he refuses to leave. thats about it. hope he paid you with checks or money orders with his signature  or you really have no evidence of him living there.

sorry that this happened to you man.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26573761 - 04/02/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Cash app payments with receipts. I doubt he will respond as his whereabouts are unknown. I do know where he work so I plan on getting him served 2 days prior to court date so he can't scramble and get PTO.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: Gorlax]
    #26594041 - 04/11/20 06:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don't think you will have a hard time getting any justice with a verbal agreement.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26594820 - 04/12/20 01:29 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

They closed down on the courts for small matters so I have a change of address for him to show he is no longer a tenant. I just don't care anymore without being able to go and file and get help your left to figure it out all on your own and one mistake you have to re-fix it all.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: Gorlax]
    #26648881 - 05/04/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Being a landlord is a double edged sword. Best of luck in the recovery. I’ve been there and am currently kicking out a section 8 tenant who has completely trashed my home. Frustrating you give a good home to someone and they have no respect for it.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: Az88]
    #26667684 - 05/12/20 11:19 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Az88 said:
Being a landlord is a double edged sword. Best of luck in the recovery. I’ve been there and am currently kicking out a section 8 tenant who has completely trashed my home. Frustrating you give a good home to someone and they have no respect for it.




lol


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You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26667831 - 05/13/20 01:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Renting out nowadays is a garanteed loss. Its pretty much derailed my life.

And yes, if I buy for 200.000 and rent out for measly 500 bucks a month, I am GIVING to the community.

Experience nothing but Vandalism and disrespect for years and thats in an extremely safe neighborhood.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26667953 - 05/13/20 04:49 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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TheFakeSunRa said:
Quote:

Az88 said:
Being a landlord is a double edged sword. Best of luck in the recovery. I’ve been there and am currently kicking out a section 8 tenant who has completely trashed my home. Frustrating you give a good home to someone and they have no respect for it.




lol




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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: Murzelpfrumpft]
    #26667955 - 05/13/20 04:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Big lol at the crybaby risking your life bullshit.
Also
If there was no lease he's not a tenant. Can't you just kick him out with real kicks at that point. No cop handholding needed.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: Murzelpfrumpft] * 1
    #26668097 - 05/13/20 06:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Renting out nowadays is a garanteed loss. Its pretty much derailed my life.

And yes, if I buy for 200.000 and rent out for measly 500 bucks a month, I am GIVING to the community.

Experience nothing but Vandalism and disrespect for years and thats in an extremely safe neighborhood.




You’re not giving shit. You made a bad investment.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26668191 - 05/13/20 08:16 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

:cheersyoufuck:


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26670579 - 05/14/20 12:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

When I rented, I was thankful for someone to trust me with their most priced possession.

There's a difference between letting it mold, become decrepid because you just dont care and repairing every Thing the last asshole ruined in his months stay five Times in a row.

The euro is very much endangered and I cant have 200 k lying around.
Its not that it would be a bad investment when they would behave with a minimum of respect.
Houses in germany last two hundred years and my grandhildren will rent this appartment out.
Its not the american market, this is the long game.

Rent out and See how you will bust your ass for disrespectful people and then see if you dont feel used.
See how you pay your bills when half your income randomly disappears cause they cant be assed to pay on time or at all.

People just changed a lot but then again I dont believe there's only asshole left.

I wanted to offer some sympathy, sometimes its nice to know youre not alone.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: Murzelpfrumpft] * 2
    #26670757 - 05/14/20 02:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I don’t expect other people to buy me a second home and give a shit about it. That’s selfish as fuck.

You pay rent you’re paying for some or all of your landlord’s mortgage. I don’t give a fuck if his income dries up because I skip rent. He’s buying a house. I’m not.

Everyone expects their property to increase in value. Everyone expects rentals to make money. Get a free house and make an income. Idgaf if your investment fails. At the end of the lease the renter just has air. The landlord still has a house. So fucking what if he has to put money in it and fix shit?

Landlord: Boohoo. I had to work and lost money.

Yeah bitch I worked for that rent money too.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26670858 - 05/14/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

:booooom:


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26671805 - 05/15/20 01:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I don’t expect other people to buy me a second home and give a shit about it. That’s selfish as fuck.

You pay rent you’re paying for some or all of your landlord’s mortgage. I don’t give a fuck if his income dries up because I skip rent. He’s buying a house. I’m not.

Everyone expects their property to increase in value. Everyone expects rentals to make money. Get a free house and make an income. Idgaf if your investment fails. At the end of the lease the renter just has air. The landlord still has a house. So fucking what if he has to put money in it and fix shit?

Landlord: Boohoo. I had to work and lost money.

Yeah bitch I worked for that rent money too.




That has to be the most nonsensical and antisocial shit I've read in quite some time.
That cant be explained by anything other than bitter jealousy.

You dont believe in being fair to people who do stuff for you? Get treatment, nobody of real worth wants to be around those kinda people, it's the definition of sociopathic.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: Murzelpfrumpft] * 1
    #26671943 - 05/15/20 04:53 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The narcissism of the wealthy: I’m helping people by letting them make me rich.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26671947 - 05/15/20 04:56 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

:tryingnottodie:


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26681954 - 05/19/20 09:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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split_by_nine said:
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TheFakeSunRa said:
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Az88 said:
Being a landlord is a double edged sword. Best of luck in the recovery. I’ve been there and am currently kicking out a section 8 tenant who has completely trashed my home. Frustrating you give a good home to someone and they have no respect for it.




lol






Yes, I gave a single woman a good home that was completely remodeled inside and out to be very energy efficient, safe, and low maintenance and she destroyed it. Kitchen has to be gutted, walls are fucked, and the entire home needs new flooring. After 2 years. Probably $20k in damages.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: Az88]
    #26682022 - 05/19/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

gave? as in, its no longer in your possession? i think not. no offense, but you didnt give anything. that woman gave you money to use your property. you didnt give her anything but the benefit of doubt and it came back to bite you in the ass.

that woman destroyed your home, okay, but she also earned the right to use your property by giving you money that belonged to her.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: Az88]
    #26682384 - 05/20/20 01:28 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

if you charged rent or something you can't say you "gave"

you enabled her to have a home...she fucked iwth it...seems like inevitability of being a landlord sometimes

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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26682540 - 05/20/20 04:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Az88 said:
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split_by_nine said:
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TheFakeSunRa said:
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Az88 said:
Being a landlord is a double edged sword. Best of luck in the recovery. I’ve been there and am currently kicking out a section 8 tenant who has completely trashed my home. Frustrating you give a good home to someone and they have no respect for it.




lol






Yes, I gave a single woman a good home that was completely remodeled inside and out to be very energy efficient, safe, and low maintenance and she destroyed it. Kitchen has to be gutted, walls are fucked, and the entire home needs new flooring. After 2 years. Probably $20k in damages.




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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26682863 - 05/20/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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gave? as in, its no longer in your possession? i think not. no offense, but you didnt give anything. that woman gave you money to use your property. you didnt give her anything but the benefit of doubt and it came back to bite you in the ass.

that woman destroyed your home, okay, but she also earned the right to use your property by giving you money that belonged to her.




Preface: yes, per our contractual agreement I gave up my rights to possess the home. I cannot enter her home without cause nor can I just kick her out. She now has a legally vested interest in that home.

1) she didn’t give any money for the rights to possess the home. Our tax money did, for which she is abusing the system as she has a contractual agreement to maintain and upkeep the property. She is in violation of not just my lease agreement but her agreement with section 8 who pays 100% of her rent. She quits her job each time she comes up for section 8 renewal. She’s 100% abusing the system because she doesn’t want to work.

2) Gave: Verb; cause or allow (someone or something) to have (something, especially something abstract); provide or supply with.

"you gave me such a fright"

When you give someone fright do they now own fright? Are they terrified for the rest of their lives? No.
Furthermore, one of the definitions of ‘gave’ is to provide or supply with, so again... yes, I gave (or provided) a safe and secure home for this tenant.

Am I complaining? Absolutely not. I’m simply making a statement. I’m taking her to court, placing a judgement against her for $9,999.99 which is the maximum under small claims court and then taking that paperwork to section 8 to prevent her from ever being allowed section 8 again.

There are more deserving people who truly need and would appreciate the fact they have their rent subsidized. And too many landlords out there truly are slumlords. I spent $40k remodeling the home before she took possession (or gave her the right to possess) my home.

This is all apart of the game and shame on me for misjudging her character. Big whoop.

Don’t feel bad for landlords who make money off other people’s inability or unwillingness to buy a home, but as long as there are people who don’t want to, or are unable to, purchase their own home, there will be a necessity for landlords.

But on the flip side, don’t shame landlords when there are people who need housing.

Supply and demand. Remove the demand and I wouldn’t be a landlord.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: Az88]
    #26684112 - 05/20/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

well that explains everything. you chose to use section 8 to guarantee yourself income from the federal housing department. you didnt care much about the tenant so stop pretending you had. no one is shaming you for being a landlord. you are being shamed for saying you gave someone a house to live in.

"you gave me a fright" is not the same as "you gave me a house" but nice try at giving us a vocabulary lesson.


and lastly, you didnt provide anyone with a home to live in. you are in it for the money, not humility.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26684220 - 05/20/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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She’s 100% abusing the system because she doesn’t want to work.




That’s rich from someone using Section 8 money to pay off a mortgage to a house he gets to keep. She’s abusing the system? As if you didn’t want that government guaranteed rent. Stop expecting the government to buy you a home unless you’re willing to do the mandatory upkeep you welfare cheat.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26684232 - 05/20/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Remove the demand and I wouldn’t be a landlord.





It should be against the law to own two or more properties until homelessness is abolished.

That would remove the demand and you wouldn’t be a landlord. And I guess you’d be better off anyway since being a landlord is such a raw deal.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26684386 - 05/20/20 09:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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split_by_nine said:
well that explains everything. you chose to use section 8 to guarantee yourself income from the federal housing department. you didnt care much about the tenant so stop pretending you had. no one is shaming you for being a landlord. you are being shamed for saying you gave someone a house to live in.

"you gave me a fright" is not the same as "you gave me a house" but nice try at giving us a vocabulary lesson.


and lastly, you didnt provide anyone with a home to live in. you are in it for the money, not humility.


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split_by_nine said:
well that explains everything. you chose to use section 8 to guarantee yourself income from the federal housing department. you didnt care much about the tenant so stop pretending you had. no one is shaming you for being a landlord. you are being shamed for saying you gave someone a house to live in.

"you gave me a fright" is not the same as "you gave me a house" but nice try at giving us a vocabulary lesson.


and lastly, you didnt provide anyone with a home to live in. you are in it for the money, not humility.




My point in referencing an emotion is that just because you ‘give’ someone something doesn’t mean you physically have to give them a tangible item to keep forever to ‘give’ someone something. —and yes, that’s one of the definitions of give.

So, let’s go back to the definition again...

2) Gave: Verb; cause or allow...; provide or supply with.

I (the Landlord) provided or supplied a home for someone. a.k.a. I gave (reference above) a home to my tenant in return for her to maintain and take care of the property. I held up my end she didn’t hold up her end. When a tenant signs a legally binding lease agreement they are taking possession of that property. It is now their home with legal protections for the tenant -even though they don’t own the property. While I still own it on paper, it is their home to use as they see fit as long as they don’t violate the lease agreement. I cannot just walk in whenever I want because it is her home while she has contractually accepted to take possession from me.

It’s not that hard to understand.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26684400 - 05/20/20 10:01 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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She’s 100% abusing the system because she doesn’t want to work.




That’s rich from someone using Section 8 money to pay off a mortgage to a house he gets to keep. She’s abusing the system? As if you didn’t want that government guaranteed rent. Stop expecting the government to buy you a home unless you’re willing to do the mandatory upkeep you welfare cheat.




My rental is paid in full so luckily I just get to keep all the profit for my Scrooge McDuffie self.

Have you ever been to your local section 8 department?

Mine is full of pamphlets geared towards landlords trying to entice them into putting their homes into the program because the need for safe subsidized housing is there. It’s sad people can’t afford to buy their own home. I’m more than happy to pay every penny I pay in taxes because I know my taxes help build a community which allows me to better myself and others. Through better schools, roads, utilities, and yes, by funding section 8 which allows those who are in dire need to receive a hand up to get on their feet.

My properties have to be inspected once a year by a section 8 person to ensure its safe, sanitary, and structurally sound for the section 8 tenant. I have not once been given a notice to repair anything because I am proactive and care for my tenants... but judge away since all landlords must be pieces of shit.

I’m not Jared Kushner. I have a heart.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26684406 - 05/20/20 10:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Remove the demand and I wouldn’t be a landlord.





It should be against the law to own two or more properties until homelessness is abolished.

That would remove the demand and you wouldn’t be a landlord. And I guess you’d be better off anyway since being a landlord is such a raw deal.



I disagree with this but I do agree homelessness is a huge problem for such an industrialized nation as the United States.

We should have better social safety nets like the EU. We should have free healthcare. We should have free higher education. When the nation is healthier and better educated then we will all thrive and make more money which means we will pay more taxes (from higher incomes) which in turn funds the social safety nets to help the less fortunate... and hopefully could end homelessness.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26684450 - 05/20/20 10:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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TheFakeSunRa said:
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She’s 100% abusing the system because she doesn’t want to work.




That’s rich from someone using Section 8 money to pay off a mortgage to a house he gets to keep. She’s abusing the system? As if you didn’t want that government guaranteed rent. Stop expecting the government to buy you a home unless you’re willing to do the mandatory upkeep you welfare cheat.




And I could sell my property, throw all the cash in the stock market and I’d probably just be a savvy investors or a normal American joe... but I buy a property that had a roof caved in in the kitchen, was completely vandalized, appliances and copper all stolen out of it, and mold growing everywhere, and I completely gut it to the studs and rebuild it. Make it extremely energy efficient with spray foam, double pane windows, completely new kitchen and bathroom, and a $20k AC unit that keeps the heating/cooling bill around $40 a month and rent it to low income people and I’m a ‘welfare cheat’.....


The tenant has lived in the home for less than 3 years and in the last year she has caused probably $20k in estimated damages but I should be expected to simply repair all of her damages and keep her in it?

She violated her contract with section 8 and violate my lease agreement. I’m seeking recovery for about half of the damages she has caused and asking her to leave at the end of the month... not being a dick about it. It’s life. You vandalize property you’ll probably get in trouble.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: Az88]
    #26684458 - 05/20/20 10:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

no one cares how much money you spend. stop whining. you invested time and money into a dump, fixed it up to turn a profit and didnt. you, as the landlord, have every right to enter the rental at any time with notice. the house did not belong to her, it belongs to you. such is why you now have the luxury of re-repairing a busted up house.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: Az88]
    #26684774 - 05/21/20 03:11 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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well that explains everything. you chose to use section 8 to guarantee yourself income from the federal housing department. you didnt care much about the tenant so stop pretending you had. no one is shaming you for being a landlord. you are being shamed for saying you gave someone a house to live in.

"you gave me a fright" is not the same as "you gave me a house" but nice try at giving us a vocabulary lesson.


and lastly, you didnt provide anyone with a home to live in. you are in it for the money, not humility.


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well that explains everything. you chose to use section 8 to guarantee yourself income from the federal housing department. you didnt care much about the tenant so stop pretending you had. no one is shaming you for being a landlord. you are being shamed for saying you gave someone a house to live in.

"you gave me a fright" is not the same as "you gave me a house" but nice try at giving us a vocabulary lesson.


and lastly, you didnt provide anyone with a home to live in. you are in it for the money, not humility.




My point in referencing an emotion is that just because you ‘give’ someone something doesn’t mean you physically have to give them a tangible item to keep forever to ‘give’ someone something. —and yes, that’s one of the definitions of give.

So, let’s go back to the definition again...

2) Gave: Verb; cause or allow...; provide or supply with.

I (the Landlord) provided or supplied a home for someone. a.k.a. I gave (reference above) a home to my tenant in return for her to maintain and take care of the property. I held up my end she didn’t hold up her end. When a tenant signs a legally binding lease agreement they are taking possession of that property. It is now their home with legal protections for the tenant -even though they don’t own the property. While I still own it on paper, it is their home to use as they see fit as long as they don’t violate the lease agreement. I cannot just walk in whenever I want because it is her home while she has contractually accepted to take possession from me.

It’s not that hard to understand.




This is some of the most lol desperate attempt to win an argument I’ve seen in a while.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26685560 - 05/21/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Lol, I love the part where the landlord was FORCED in to this situation because of a 200k Euro savings.

What a terrible burden. Life must be super rough.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: shaggyp]
    #26685647 - 05/21/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Lol, I love the part where the landlord was FORCED in to this situation because of a 200k Euro savings.

What a terrible burden. Life must be super rough.




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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: split_by_nine]
    #26686034 - 05/21/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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no one cares how much money you spend. stop whining. you invested time and money into a dump, fixed it up to turn a profit and didnt. you, as the landlord, have every right to enter the rental at any time with notice. the house did not belong to her, it belongs to you. such is why you now have the luxury of re-repairing a busted up house.




OK, my 8 years of real estate experience, and 200 hours of continuing education begs to differ. You legally do NOT have a right to enter a property (without notice) unless you feel there is an emergency and/or sanitary/structural concerns. Texas Real Estate Commission promulgates contracts which clearly state this... I’ve signed 100’s of them over my career.

Don’t be a sour puss you’re stuck being a life long renter.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26686047 - 05/21/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Az88 said:
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split_by_nine said:
well that explains everything. you chose to use section 8 to guarantee yourself income from the federal housing department. you didnt care much about the tenant so stop pretending you had. no one is shaming you for being a landlord. you are being shamed for saying you gave someone a house to live in.

"you gave me a fright" is not the same as "you gave me a house" but nice try at giving us a vocabulary lesson.


and lastly, you didnt provide anyone with a home to live in. you are in it for the money, not humility.


Quote:

split_by_nine said:
well that explains everything. you chose to use section 8 to guarantee yourself income from the federal housing department. you didnt care much about the tenant so stop pretending you had. no one is shaming you for being a landlord. you are being shamed for saying you gave someone a house to live in.

"you gave me a fright" is not the same as "you gave me a house" but nice try at giving us a vocabulary lesson.


and lastly, you didnt provide anyone with a home to live in. you are in it for the money, not humility.




My point in referencing an emotion is that just because you ‘give’ someone something doesn’t mean you physically have to give them a tangible item to keep forever to ‘give’ someone something. —and yes, that’s one of the definitions of give.

So, let’s go back to the definition again...

2) Gave: Verb; cause or allow...; provide or supply with.

I (the Landlord) provided or supplied a home for someone. a.k.a. I gave (reference above) a home to my tenant in return for her to maintain and take care of the property. I held up my end she didn’t hold up her end. When a tenant signs a legally binding lease agreement they are taking possession of that property. It is now their home with legal protections for the tenant -even though they don’t own the property. While I still own it on paper, it is their home to use as they see fit as long as they don’t violate the lease agreement. I cannot just walk in whenever I want because it is her home while she has contractually accepted to take possession from me.

It’s not that hard to understand.




This is some of the most lol desperate attempt to win an argument I’ve seen in a while.




It’s sad you can clearly tell the people in this thread who rent -and are upset they are renters- and those who actually did something with their lives. Oh well.

I know I’m not a shitty landlord, slumlord, etc. And you’re right, at the end of the day I have several rental properties which will help supplement my very nice early retirement.


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Re: Tenant Skipped rent, stole, and damaged. [Re: Az88]
    #26686064 - 05/21/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

its sad that you think being a tenant means being unsuccessful and buying a house to profit off the lives of other people means you "did something with your life".

that makes you sound like a scumbag. but i guess we will never know what its like to have our heads up our own ass the way you do. i guess everyone looks small when youre way up there in your ivory tower.


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    #26686794 - 05/21/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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