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OfflineDelta3o
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First Grow Results and Harvest Question
    #26570796 - 04/01/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Finally some results. The veil is only breaking on about 4 of them while alot are obviously still small. Should I just pick them all at once? or should I pick the mature ones and let the small ones keep going? The variety growing is B+.



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Re: First Grow Results and Harvest Question [Re: Delta3o]
    #26570803 - 04/01/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Just use some scissors and harvest the mature ones carefully leaving
others and not hurting the mycelium network. Great job they look good!


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Re: First Grow Results and Harvest Question [Re: rumfor69]
    #26570867 - 04/01/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Is it an issue if they are not cut off flush? I used my scalpel and cut through the stems.


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Re: First Grow Results and Harvest Question [Re: Delta3o]
    #26570886 - 04/01/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It's not an issue. It's ok to leave stumps.


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Re: First Grow Results and Harvest Question [Re: rumfor69]
    #26570894 - 04/01/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Personally, leaving stumps/cutting at the base ALWAYS USUALLY leads to contamination for me. I always pick for 1st and 2nd flush.

People say they get 'absorbed' back into the substrate, but they just rot and develop green mold/trich in every case most cases, when I have cut them at the stump.

I only reserve cutting at the stump for the last flush, when I intend to toss out the tub, just to make the last harvest easier.


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Re: First Grow Results and Harvest Question [Re: rumfor69]
    #26570987 - 04/01/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ok the dude above has got me paranoid now. I'd say the stumps are sloppy on my part.

Would spraying Hydrogen Peroxide on the stump to prevent mold spore germination help? Or should I just let it be?


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Re: First Grow Results and Harvest Question [Re: Delta3o]
    #26571008 - 04/01/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I do agree, it is sloppy.

Not worth losing a flush when you can just pick and trim the stems afterwards.

From what I've read on hydrogen peroxide use, is that it is only used in the case of cobweb mold. You can pick the stumps off if you're worried.

Check out this thread about cobweb mold.


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Re: First Grow Results and Harvest Question [Re: Delta3o]
    #26571011 - 04/01/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

its not twist and pull vs cutting at base
its clean spawn vs dirty spawn

Twist and pull vs.

TC quote form one of the threads in that link

Quote:

Mad Season said:
Yeah and tons of others have had opposite experiences. I've seen trich on stumps much more than the divots, but I still maintain that it was caused because the substrate shit the bed, not because of harvest choice.

We all agree if it contams early it's spawn, well if it contams after first flush, it's spawn related, not twist and pull related lol




Quote:

Mad Season said:
If it contaminates, it's because the substrate isn't healthy, not your harvest method choice. People just blame the easy thing, when in reality it is bad spawn. It's like people who say misting causes aborts, not the fact they can't provide proper conditions lol




Quote:

bodhisatta said:

People ask me a lot about STUMPS vs the twist and pull
I always leave stumps

They leave a nice microclimate for the next flush pinset. They do not cause contamination if you have a healthy substrate. A coir tub should go to flush 4 easily, if you let it go that long, with no contamination if your spawn is clean and you keep your conditions up.





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Re: First Grow Results and Harvest Question [Re: Camera93]
    #26571020 - 04/01/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Let me quote the trusted cultivator's quote.

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I've seen trich on stumps much more than the divots




Fuck that 'provides a micro-climate' bullshit. Just provide proper surface moisture and you will be fine. No point of leaving stumps in my opinion. Bod's stumps already look like they are rotting  :grossman:

Better safe than sorry.


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Re: First Grow Results and Harvest Question [Re: xnirvanax]
    #26571026 - 04/01/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

that was picking apart a thought, not quoting my quote

he states in entirety that

Quote:

Mad Season said:
Yeah and tons of others have had opposite experiences. I've seen trich on stumps much more than the divots, but I still maintain that it was caused because the substrate shit the bed, not because of harvest choice.





you even cut the sentence in half to try and make your point lol


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Re: First Grow Results and Harvest Question [Re: Camera93]
    #26571034 - 04/01/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, I'm cherry picking to make my point.

Its evidence nonetheless.

He has seen a higher rate of contamination with stumps.

So have I :shrug:


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Re: First Grow Results and Harvest Question [Re: Camera93]
    #26571038 - 04/01/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Stumps are fine, if you get trich on them you were going to get it anyway, it just shows up on stumps rather than coir cuz it’s eating them.

Mine always dry out and usually sprout new myc after a few days.


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Re: First Grow Results and Harvest Question [Re: xnirvanax]
    #26571044 - 04/01/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

your point was that "stumps lead to contamination more then divots" correct?

The TC quote you picked apart clearly states his belief on the source of contamination, IE dirty spawn, not harvest choice. You two do not share the same thought.

I can dig for RR quotes stating as much as well if helps sway your opinion


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Re: First Grow Results and Harvest Question [Re: Delta3o]
    #26571050 - 04/01/20 11:59 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

These guys are arguing over bad advise. Cut the mushrooms with a scalpel and leave the stumps. Trich or any other mold will appear on your stumps if it is in your spawn. I have to say that I agree with Bod and Cam.

In my experience twisting and pulling is (contamination rate aside) going to leave your sub level uneven and create peaks and valleys in your substrate that will inhibit a level substrate which makes pinset number 2 a little harder to achieve. How ever if you have stumps that are already creating a climate than it will help with even evaporation of the substrate and also help to raise the RH in the tub.

If it contaminates it would have with or without stumps.


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Re: First Grow Results and Harvest Question [Re: Sockadin] * 1
    #26571068 - 04/01/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

not sure why this is being argued, stumps don't make a difference in contamination rate. go pick a mushroom from the great outdoors, leave it on your porch, subject to the contaminated gross yucky outside air, and update me when it starts growing trich  :goodmorning:


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