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Re: Coronavirus Chathttp://facebook.com/ [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #26569683 - 03/31/20 06:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Government shouldn't be able to make you work, nor should it be able to stop you from working because of the pandemic.



While I would agree with you under most circumstances, I know a lot of people who are in a high risk group based on age and health who would have a very high chance of dying if they caught this virus, especially if hospitals are over capacity, which is almost certain to happen if we don't shelter in place, as we've seen happen in places that were too slow to react.




You don't get to take rights away because of situation. That's the point. I should also be able to defend myself from you if you go out contagious.



Seems like this stuff fills your lungs with dead tissue in the worst cases.

Invent read up, but has abovementioned China and it's unusual purchasing or urns, and 20,000,000 cell phones that are no longer active




The next Alex Jones I take it??


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Re: Coronavirus Chathttp://facebook.com/ [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26569694 - 03/31/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I post someone measured and not sensationalistic and you compare him to Alex Jones?

Alex Jonestown an entertainer and I've only seen his show back in the pre 2010's


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Re: Coronavirus Chathttp://facebook.com/ [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #26569756 - 03/31/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I'll have to watch it when i have some time. Measured and not sensational is good.


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Re: Coronavirus Chathttp://facebook.com/ [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26569770 - 03/31/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I'd watch Tim Pool causing panic to sell his prepper buckets to people, if I wanted sensationalism.

I also like Scott Adams(creator of Dilbert), but he is more optimistic than me


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Re: Coronavirus Chathttp://facebook.com/ [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #26569774 - 03/31/20 06:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ive heard Scott before hes someone i can appreciate.


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Re: Coronavirus Chathttp://facebook.com/ [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26569818 - 03/31/20 06:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



He has the Simultaneous zip in the morning and simultaneous 'swaddle' at night, because we could all use a warm blanket


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Re: Coronavirus Chathttp://facebook.com/ [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #26570077 - 03/31/20 09:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Government shouldn't be able to make you work, nor should it be able to stop you from working because of the pandemic.



While I would agree with you under most circumstances, I know a lot of people who are in a high risk group based on age and health who would have a very high chance of dying if they caught this virus, especially if hospitals are over capacity, which is almost certain to happen if we don't shelter in place, as we've seen happen in places that were too slow to react.



You don't get to take rights away because of situation. That's the point.



So you get to kill the sick and elderly because you think your right to work is more important than life itself?

How about we pay workers to stay home for a few months?  Then you get your right to money, and others get their (clearly unimportant to you) right to live.


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Re: Coronavirus Chathttp://facebook.com/ [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26570123 - 03/31/20 10:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

A really easy solution would be a grace period before negative credit reporting, but alas:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/no-coronavirus-break-for-consumer-credit-scores-11585668691

The financial industry persuaded Congress to reject a moratorium on recording missed and late payments on credit reports during the coronavirus outbreak, raising concerns that people who lose their jobs will take a lasting hit to their credit scores.

Legislation that would have prevented credit bureaus from reporting negative credit information for four months was shelved in the lobbying frenzy ahead of last week’s passage of the roughly $2 trillion economic stimulus bill, lawmakers said.


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: Coronavirus Chathttp://facebook.com/ [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26570132 - 03/31/20 10:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

One hundred million people could die in the next month and we shouldn't give up our rights.
People died for those rights and these people are going to see to that.

The sick and elderly are responsible for themselves. You should act appropriately if you are high risk.

In my opinion

It isn't my right to money. It's my right to go in public how and when I want. I'm fine when it's a request. When it's an order, it's wrong


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Re: Coronavirus Chathttp://facebook.com/ [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #26570420 - 04/01/20 05:37 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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It's my right to go in public how and when I want. I'm fine when it's a request. When it's an order, it's wrong




I think that makes little sense.

It's a public emergency yet there's always someone who thinks they're special.

What do you need to do that takes precedent? Are the cops strip searching you? Is your property being confiscated? What exactly is the problem?

This is temporary, get over it.


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    #26570475 - 04/01/20 06:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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It's my right to go in public how and when I want. I'm fine when it's a request. When it's an order, it's wrong




I think that makes little sense.

It's a public emergency yet there's always someone who thinks they're special.

What do you need to do that takes precedent? Are the cops strip searching you? Is your property being confiscated? What exactly is the problem?

This is temporary, get over it.




Its a tough situation. My wish is that the public would come together and stay home when at all possible. yes you need food and shit but other than a NEED to go get something we should stay home just cause its the right thing to do...For a example RI had cops on all their highways pulling over every car with a NY plate telling them to go home! I totally understand where they are coming from NY is the hottest spot in the country and RI is scared they will be next cause of people coming there from NY. NY's govenor came out and said he will sure RI if they keep doing it. However then RI made a LAW if you come from NY you must isolate for 14 days. I think that is right. Yes this is America and we have our freedom but i wish people would just realize that just staying home is best for you and everyone else. but hey maybe my hope for humanity coming together and doing the right thing just cause its the right thing to do is too high we have alot of stupid people. It shouldnt have to come to law and lockdown just do it. Staying home is the safest for YOU and every one!


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Re: Coronavirus Chathttp://facebook.com/ [Re: Stable Genius]
    #26570827 - 04/01/20 10:09 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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It's my right to go in public how and when I want. I'm fine when it's a request. When it's an order, it's wrong




I think that makes little sense.

It's a public emergency yet there's always someone who thinks they're special.

What do you need to do that takes precedent? Are the cops strip searching you? Is your property being confiscated? What exactly is the problem?

This is temporary, get over it.




It isn't about 'me', it's about the concept.

I'll say it again, '100,000,000 people could die, and They have no position to interfere with my rights'

It doesn't mean I'm going to go spread the disease. There is a difference between asking and telling, and like any real american, I don't like being 'told'. I'm not going to be shamed for going in public.


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    #26570855 - 04/01/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The us government has the right to lock you up without charges if it so chooses. Don’t think your rights are inalienable. They are not.


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Re: Coronavirus Chathttp://facebook.com/ [Re: koods]
    #26570873 - 04/01/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

That's called 'infringement', it doesn't mean I lack the right.
It's state governments infringing at the moment.


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Re: Coronavirus Chathttp://facebook.com/ [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #26570977 - 04/01/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You have a ridiculous interpretation of your rights


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Re: Coronavirus Chathttp://facebook.com/ [Re: koods]
    #26570991 - 04/01/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It's the interpretation our founders. It's standard. I recognize that people can 'take rights away' in a practical sense.
It's more of a philosophical principle than a practical fsct.


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    #26571309 - 04/01/20 02:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You have the right to be responsible.

You have the right to help other people by not doing dumb shit.

These things are universal, practical and philosophical.

Do you have any living parents? These measures may help them stay alive, how cool is that!
I'd stand on my head in the corner for a month if I could see my dad for another day.


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Re: Coronavirus Chathttp://facebook.com/ [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
    #26571348 - 04/01/20 02:23 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

To be honest.

Europe will most probably be unable to contain the infection.

The only thing we can do is keep as low as possible the number of people in our hospitals.
Still, a lot of old people are dying because well, the virus is bad on them and because at this point we are starting to not being able to help everybody.

Coronavirus doesn't stop flu or other illnes for happening. A lot of people will die if hospitals keep this amount of work (talking about Europe now).

If you think that USA hospitals and health system can manage it, good. But if USA cannot hold the insane amount of work that the hospitals will need to do, a lot of people will die and your economy will suffer a lot.



I think your goverment will understand it soon. It might not even surprise me that if people like you start thinking that it is your right to got to your streets, you should be labeled as a terrorist as antiamerican since you are trying to kill your own people. But whatever.


You can still think it is just a seasonal flu.


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Re: Coronavirus Chathttp://facebook.com/ [Re: living_failure]
    #26571664 - 04/01/20 05:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So, it I'm not sick and I go outside I'm a terrorist?


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Re: Coronavirus Chathttp://facebook.com/ [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #26571679 - 04/01/20 05:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah terrorist is a ridiculous thing to label someone over this shit.Selfish? Maybe. But no one is saying you cant go outside, no one is getting arrested unless they go coughing on produce like that one lady purposefully did.


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