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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: psi]
#26569428 - 03/31/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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mild symptoms is not asymptomatic
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: cannabinated] 2
#26569444 - 03/31/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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And what the CDC considers mild and what we all consider mild may not exactly align.
But I am trying to remind myself that 80% of cases are estimated to be 'mild'. It's easy to lose sight of this when you're seeing nothing but death in the news. As someone who's presumably low risk, I've gone from not worried at all about getting it myself(just spreading it to others) to a little anxious that I'll end up being one of the unlucky outliers.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: pirate-blues]
#26569445 - 03/31/20 03:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Exactly
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: pirate-blues]
#26569452 - 03/31/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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pirate-blues said: And what the CDC considers mild and what we all consider mild may not exactly align.
But I am trying to remind myself that 80% of cases are estimated to be 'mild'. It's easy to lose sight of this when you're seeing nothing but death in the news. As someone who's presumably low risk, I've gone from not worried at all about getting it myself(just spreading it to others) to a little anxious that I'll end up being one of the unlucky outliers.
Yeah, the data we get is misleading. Trends tell us something but absolute values have incertitudes higher than the values. I dunno if that was clear.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods] 1
#26569456 - 03/31/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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koods said: Of course they matter. If you don’t identify them you can’t control spread without these draconian shut down orders
In that case as I said earlier the testing is all backwards. they need to be testing people with no symptoms who were in contact with those that have it. that way asymptomaptic people can be quarantined since they are more likely to spread it than anyone. we don't need the tests anymore to diagnose cases of covid19 that require hospitalization
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: pirate-blues] 2
#26569457 - 03/31/20 04:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I heard a stat on BBC radio that 18% of cases in 18-26 year olds will need hospitalisation. The likelyhood of death for that group is pretty low, but hospital is never a good place to go as a patient.
1 in 5 isn't really odds I'd want to gamble with.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: pirate-blues]
#26569461 - 03/31/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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pirate-blues said: And what the CDC considers mild and what we all consider mild may not exactly align.
But I am trying to remind myself that 80% of cases are estimated to be 'mild'. It's easy to lose sight of this when you're seeing nothing but death in the news. As someone who's presumably low risk, I've gone from not worried at all about getting it myself(just spreading it to others) to a little anxious that I'll end up being one of the unlucky outliers.
Mild means you aren’t hospitalized
California has 6900 cases. 23% are hospitalized. 41% of those are in intensive care (9.9% of total cases)
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Guy1980]
#26569463 - 03/31/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Being asymptomatic means it spreads faster than it would be if all carriers were symptomatic. It shows how superspreaders are all around.
All I'm saying is that if we simply cannot keep up with testing, it will actually turn out to be a relief to discover after the fact a lot of people have already developed antibodies to this without having gotten ill. That many fewer people we don't need to worry about next winter.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante] 1
#26569470 - 03/31/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Meanwhile in Holland 
Tuesday 382 (March 10, 2020) Wednesday: 503 (+121) Thursday: 614 (+111) Friday: 804 (+190) Saturday: 959 (+155) Sunday: 1135 (+176) Monday: 1413 (+287)(March 16) Tuesday: 1708 (+295) Wednesday: 2051 (+343) Thursday 2460 (+409) Friday 2994 (+534) Saturday 3631 (+637) Sunday 4202 (+571) Monday 4749 (+547)(March 23) Tuesday 5560 (+811) Wednesday 6412 (+852) Thursday 7431 (+1019) Friday 8603 (+1172) Saturday 9762 (+1159) Sunday 10,866 (+1104) Monday 11,817 (+1059)(March 30) Tuesday 12,662 (+845)
Today 12,662 cases and a total of 1040 deaths: 8.2% mortality quietly, Holland is "doing an Italy"
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods] 1
#26569472 - 03/31/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I am too young and pretty to die.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted]
#26569473 - 03/31/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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koods said: Of course they matter. If you don’t identify them you can’t control spread without these draconian shut down orders
In that case as I said earlier the testing is all backwards. they need to be testing people with no symptoms who were in contact with those that have it. that way asymptomaptic people can be quarantined since they are more likely to spread it than anyone. we don't need the tests anymore to diagnose cases of covid19 that require hospitalization
You do if you want to be sure that you're actually dealing with a covid patient.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante]
#26569482 - 03/31/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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1.07! nice! you guys are about to peak, it seems.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#26569489 - 03/31/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said:
I don't deny any of that.
But did you see the two videos and link that I posted that in response to? I mean, really..
No but I will check them out.
I do feel for the people of China though. There's a lot of hate going their way too just because they were unlucky enough to be from where it originated, and that could've been anybody. Like the UPS guy at work, who's Hispanic -- there's this woman who works at the company I work for who isn't even Chinese (she's Vietnamese) and the guy said something about how "this shit all started because of them". I mean some real racist overtones & hate were seeping right through how he said it. I'm sure there's a lot of that going on, unfortunately.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: pirate-blues] 1
#26569494 - 03/31/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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pirate-blues said:
As someone who's presumably low risk, I've gone from not worried at all about getting it myself(just spreading it to others) to a little anxious that I'll end up being one of the unlucky outliers.
Yep. Same here.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: ballsalsa]
#26569500 - 03/31/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: 1.07! nice! you guys are about to peak, it seems.
We are just super stingy in testing, hence the 8+%
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: chibiabos]
#26569506 - 03/31/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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chibiabos said:
You do if you want to be sure that you're actually dealing with a covid patient.
watch the medical videos on covid diagnosis. we know enough about signs and symptoms and labs to get a good enough presumptive diagnosis to begin treatment.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26569507 - 03/31/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: Wow. You don't fall for propaganda at all huh?
Wait... so you're saying the shipment of 10,000 urns to a single funeral home in just 2 days are lies and propaganda? And that China is reporting real numbers???
Prove it's propaganda. It's been widely reported about the urns and bodies being incinerated. Both internationally and from within China. Pictures with proof are available but you're just gonna pretentiously say "propaganda"...
The fact you think China is reporting real numbers shows you're the one that's feeding off propaganda from a military dictatorship. Pretty stupid, honestly. Time will tell the truth.
And those two videos of medical supplies are not unbelievable, considering China has been sending defective medical supplies to other countries already. And at the same time, hoarding thousands of various medical supplies from other countries to ship back to China...
Why would China be hoarding supplies in other countries to ship back to China, if they are making "quality" medical supplies??? It's obvious. Because they are full of shit and trying to make money off this pandemic, while also fucking people over, AS USUAL.
You probably think the one million muslims in slave camps in China are propaganda too?
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante]
#26569511 - 03/31/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was looking at this some more: https://nextstrain.org/ncov?branchLabel=clade&l=unrooted&p=full
seems like western europe is getting hit with a lot of A2 and A3 clade virus compared to everyone else (eyeball estimate) maybe it is contributing to the high mortality?
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted]
#26569519 - 03/31/20 04:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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connectedcosmos said: Is anyone worried about the potential economic depression were gonna go into?
Not in the least
I want it to crash as much as possible cuz I'm still making the same amount of money but if real estate and stocks get super cheap ima swoop in on em
Same
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Tripsurfer] 2
#26569535 - 03/31/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Welp we’ve gone from “there are 15 cases going down to near zero soon” to “if everything goes right we’ll only have 200,000 deaths”
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