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What kind of whole oats
    #26565457 - 03/29/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Looking to use whole oats as my grain spawn but not sure what kind of oats I should buy. Organic? Steel-cut? Rolled? Instant? With or without the hull? Are there any specific stores that sell 50lb bags for ~$15-20 (this is the price I see other people pay around this forum)


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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: ouuwee] * 1
    #26565481 - 03/29/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Whole oats. No steel cut, no hulls removed. Whole oats you feed your horses.


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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: Sockadin] * 1
    #26565485 - 03/29/20 02:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I get em from tractor supply, it will say WHOLE OATS haha


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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: ouuwee] * 1
    #26565522 - 03/29/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Check feed stores if you have any near you.


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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: Strainsfordaze]
    #26567689 - 03/30/20 04:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

my local feed store has 50lb whole oats for $15 without the hull and its $26 with the hull. Why is there such a big price difference? And does it really matter if it has the hull or not


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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: ouuwee]
    #26567699 - 03/30/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Hulls removed isn't whole. They're called groats when the hulls are removed.


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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: ouuwee]
    #26567700 - 03/30/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ya, you need the hull. It's weird that the hulled version would be cheaper, I'd recommend you check that again.


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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: poisoned]
    #26567717 - 03/30/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

What's wrong with hulled oats/groats? How is it different from wheat or rye? What purpose does the hull have?


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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: One of Us]
    #26567726 - 03/30/20 04:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

If you go without hulls, you'll end up with a sticky mess. Myc doesn't like sticky mess.


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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: One of Us]
    #26567727 - 03/30/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

One works and the other you'd have to make up your own new tek for.


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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: poisoned]
    #26567782 - 03/30/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)


If you go without hulls, you'll end up with a sticky mess. Myc doesn't like sticky mess.




Good to know, thank you. So do they not have as strong of a "coating" on them as wheat or rye? Is that why you can't just cook them until hydrated, then dry the outsides, load, and then pc?


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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: One of Us]
    #26567849 - 03/30/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You shouldn’t use any of those hulled, AFAIK.


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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: poisoned]
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: monkey_accident]
    #26568101 - 03/30/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Triple washed whole race horse oats will be cleanest. I get a 50# bag for 12$.


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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: eatyualive]
    #26568109 - 03/30/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

^^ Yeah that's what I got too. I still fill up with water, put in a drop of detergent and stir vigorously before rinsing. Makes a huge difference when they are squeaky clean.


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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: poisoned]
    #26568143 - 03/30/20 09:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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If you go without hulls, you'll end up with a sticky mess. Myc doesn't like sticky mess.



If you prep your grains right they shouldn't be a sticky mess.
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One works and the other you'd have to make up your own new tek for.



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You shouldn’t use any of those hulled, AFAIK.



Plenty of the grains used as spawn have no hull.


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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: gizmo1]
    #26568404 - 03/31/20 03:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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If you prep your grains right they shouldn't be a sticky mess.




Agreed, because they will still be in hulls. I'd love to be proven wrong, so show me a successful hulled oats grow.
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Plenty of the grains used as spawn have no hull.



I'm always seeing people using whole grains. But I don't have much experience with other grains, so I might be wrong.


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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: poisoned] * 1
    #26568572 - 03/31/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You can certainly use hulled oats. You simply have to buy a bag of oat hulls and insert each hulled oat into a new hull.:shrug:


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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: Smartattack]
    #26568599 - 03/31/20 08:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Like refried beans or twice baked potato, it is twice hulled oats.


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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: Smartattack]
    #26568634 - 03/31/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You guys are really making me want to try hulled oats myself, I don't understand why they won't work.

I do understand that nobody uses them, but I think that's because they are more expensive than whole oats, and the use of whole oats is better documented. I feel like you are all just parroting this because that's what it says in bod's tek... well the tek was written specifically for whole oats so that makes sense. And OP wasn't asking if they would work in bods tek.

bod even says Here that using a tek to do grains is like using an operating manual to drive a car rather than just using your senses; it is unnecessary.

I will try this out if I can find some.  I wanna do this to save OP, and others in situations like his, from paying a premium for their whole oats, when in their weird case, hulled oats are much cheaper and may work just as well.

A google search for cooked whole groats yields this image which looks fine to me (for myco purposes)



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