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Re: the scientific soul [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26565033 - 03/29/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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So is energy the communication or otherwise the inbetweeness of information?

How does information grow without energy?

Does energy carry a form of information?

What is information that is not being carried in our heads?




This is sort of what I was getting at. I don't think information is a thing that exists, it's a concept that exists only in our minds. We can describe energy with information, but energy is not "made of" information, any more than the ink in a pen is made of information. It's just ink, it's the specific arrangement of shapes and symbols that we (as conscious entities) label as information, because to us it has meaning.

Information is infinite, and cannot be destroyed any more than an idea can, because really that's what it is, an idea.

It takes energy to transcribe or read information, and technically it is an arrangement of energy, but information isn't really "made" of energy. Thats sort of like saying ideas are "made" of gray matter in the brain.

My point is, information requires that there be a conscious entity for it to "exist". If there is no one around to understand the arrangement of energy as information, then it ceases to have meaning.

The universe isn't made of information, we use information to record, label, and attempt to understand the universe.


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Re: the scientific soul [Re: Svetaketu]
    #26566042 - 03/29/20 08:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ahh I got a good one..

Is information always conveyed with symbols?

If so.. how does energy exist..? Within each symbol carrying or otherwise comunicating to the base level..

Or should I say communication goes to the soul level?

The projection of light comes from the soul..

Maybe as a wave or vibration.. consciousness can understand the full electromagnetic spectrum?


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Re: the scientific soul [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #26566054 - 03/29/20 09:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Hmm.. maybe if information is conveyed through symbols.. then

Symbols convey information..

So energy has to be a medium that shows how a symbol exists or the way a symbol is communicated with other symbols..

Like on and off beimg 1 and zero in binary..

So the question is.. if symbols form a language then how does energy relate to language?


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Re: the scientific soul [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #26567597 - 03/30/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Well, energy relates to everything. Through E=mc2 you can see that anything that has mass, is technically made of energy.

But again, language isn't really made of energy, language is the label we have given our ability to communicate with sounds. Sound is energy, but the information it carries through language is entirely based on our imagination, not anything concrete.

It's hard to think of a good analogy... Energy is everything that exists more or less. Language is our made up way of labeling, categorizing, and comparing the different arrangements that energy can be in.


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