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    #26567455 - 03/30/20 02:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Depending on the goal, what is your preferred dose of cubes?? I’ve found now that 3g is great but leaves me wanting a deeper more introspective experience. 5g is my preferred theraputic dose for lasting effects for anxiety and depression? Want is your jam ?


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24] * 1
    #26567540 - 03/30/20 03:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

2 to 3 grams is perfect imo. Rarely do I eat over 3 sometimes 4 but haven't eaten large amounts in a very long time.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #26567707 - 03/30/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Im with ya Sonic. 2-3grams is perfect. Sometimes at public events i will take a more common/low dose like 1-1.5 grams. I find lower doses of shrooms can be really nice for social events and not much is needed.

I also seemed to be more sensitive than most people so i dont need as much as well :shrug:


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26567710 - 03/30/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I feel like at those lower doses I’m kina anxious.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
    #26567719 - 03/30/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Everyones different :shrug: Also the shrooms i grow are semi-potent, so theres that.

Dosing with shrooms is pretty tough when you start out since u dont know how u will react and how potent the shrooms are. Its a tricky journey to figure out.

I wouldnt worry thou, homegrown shrooms are very friendly in my experience.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26567869 - 03/30/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

3.5/4g really seems to be the sweet spot for me. Haven't taken anything over 4.5g and really haven't felt the need to. 4 grams is usually the "perfect" dose for myself. Granted, the set and setting are correct.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26567886 - 03/30/20 06:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I gotta learn how to hunt for these in the PNW!


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
    #26567895 - 03/30/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Why not grow your own? Especially with everything going on in the world right now - got nothing but time. It's fairly easy, extremely fun and most of all.... inexpensive!


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast] * 1
    #26567901 - 03/30/20 06:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Why not grow your own? Especially with everything going on in the world right now - got nothing but time. It's fairly easy, extremely fun and most of all.... inexpensive!




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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
    #26567919 - 03/30/20 06:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Well then, lets forget I even said anything
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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26567959 - 03/30/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Due to an untimely trip when I started my first home grow I split 22g's of fresh B+ pins with a buddy once.

I absolutely loved the experience, didn't have any expectation and it randomly helped me address my anxiety in ways I didn't think anything could. Had very subtle visuals that kind of went away when I focused on them, great closed eye visuals.

I've got my grow going right now 50/50 GT and B+ and I've got about 1g dried GT left.Really would love to reach that same place but I've been unsure how much to take. Thinking of just waiting for the fresh ones to come in over the next two weeks but would kinda like to trip sooner, just not sure what will allow me to continue gettn stuff done...


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: RyeHumor]
    #26567971 - 03/30/20 07:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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RyeHumor said:
Due to an untimely trip when I started my first home grow I split 22g's of fresh B  pins with a buddy once.

I absolutely loved the experience, didn't have any expectation and it randomly helped me address my anxiety in ways I didn't think anything could. Had very subtle visuals that kind of went away when I focused on them, great closed eye visuals.

I've got my grow going right now 50/50 GT and B  and I've got about 1g dried GT left.Really would love to reach that same place but I've been unsure how much to take. Thinking of just waiting for the fresh ones to come in over the next two weeks but would kinda like to trip sooner, just not sure what will allow me to continue gettn stuff done...




I found five grams made into a tea on empty stomach fasted was perfect. The best experience of my life short of my kids being born but highly comparable.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
    #26567979 - 03/30/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I gotta learn how to hunt for these in the PNW!




If you are dosing woodlovers, 3 grams would be on the low end of a strong trip. For cubenis, it would be more of an average/common dose.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24] * 1
    #26568022 - 03/30/20 07:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hikes: 1g
Concerts/recreational: 1.5-2g
Deep inner work: 3g+

I haven’t taken over 4g. I have been working my way up. I too am a bit sensitive to psychedelics I believe.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Tankie_J]
    #26568377 - 03/31/20 02:35 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I think 3g is a good starting point. Going up to 3.3g can be a big difference for me.

First off, shrooms are not linear in dosage. 4g is definitely not double a 2g trip. Going from 3g to 3.3 is a 10% increase in dosage by weight.

Going to 3.6g from 3 grams is 20% etc.

I definitely notice these subtle changes in weight.

No matter what I feel like 3g is a solid base dose after someone has has a few rounds to get warmed up.

I find it to be enjoyable.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
    #26568423 - 03/31/20 04:12 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If I take 5g of Cubensis, it is one hell of a ride for me.

People talk about thumbprints. 5g, and I melt into the universe.

Then again, it all depends on the batch.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: monkeybus]
    #26568461 - 03/31/20 05:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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If I take 5g of Cubensis, it is one hell of a ride for me.

People talk about thumbprints. 5g, and I melt into the universe.

Then again, it all depends on the batch.




Totally agree. 5g was incredible not sure you ever need more.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
    #26568798 - 03/31/20 10:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The more the better!


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Turvenuija] * 1
    #26568827 - 03/31/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Depends on what you seek.

For a fun recreational evening 1 to 3 grams is fine. For a deep journey inwards usually more is needed.

5g is the classic full dose, for most.

But the rabbit hole is deeper than that. :sun:

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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26568991 - 03/31/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Depends on what you seek.

For a fun recreational evening 1 to 3 grams is fine. For a deep journey inwards usually more is needed.

5g is the classic full dose, for most.

But the rabbit hole is deeper than that. :sun:

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At 5 it was probably the most profoundly pleasurable and insightful journey of my life. What happens beyond?


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24] * 1
    #26569024 - 03/31/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

5g of good cubensis hits the spot.  I dont usually dose lower than that but 3.5g trips are quite nice too.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Psicomb]
    #26569033 - 03/31/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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5g of good cubensis hits the spot.  I dont usually dose lower than that but 3.5g trips are quite nice too.





Do you notice a different sort of trip with PE vs
Other cube or just potency?


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
    #26569039 - 03/31/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Mainly just potency. Mushroom experiences are already so profound and unique each time for me.  However, just 2g of APE/PE often floors me more than 5g of regular cubes.  I enjoy that it is easier on my stomach due to there being less mushroom material to consume to get to where I want to be.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Psicomb] * 1
    #26569069 - 03/31/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Mainly just potency. Mushroom experiences are already so profound and unique each time for me.  However, just 2g of APE/PE often floors me more than 5g of regular cubes.  I enjoy that it is easier on my stomach due to there being less mushroom material to consume to get to where I want to be.




Trying to grow apes now. We’ll see how it shakes out. And mazatapecs.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
    #26569242 - 03/31/20 02:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hey Orange24,

Search out some (check spelling) Kilindhi Iyi on youtube; he discusses his 30g _ dry trips.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26570030 - 03/31/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I always try to go as deep as possible. 5g with 2g more just as it starts to kick in has been my best trips.

I have tried 8g and 10g many times and have over shot the goal and pretty much blacked out for the peak. I tend to think my cubes are weak to need this much.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Hush]
    #26570098 - 03/31/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I always try to go as deep as possible. 5g with 2g more just as it starts to kick in has been my best trips.

I have tried 8g and 10g many times and have over shot the goal and pretty much blacked out for the peak. I tend to think my cubes are weak to need this much.





What are your trips like with the 7 total grams?


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24] * 1
    #26570106 - 03/31/20 10:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

very intense, highly recommend  it once a year :trippindude:


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    #26570110 - 03/31/20 10:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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very intense, highly recommend  it once a year :trippindude:




Which dose?


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
    #26570121 - 03/31/20 10:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

6.5-7 P. azur, haven’t tried above 5 for cubensis so couldn’t say personally what an epic dose would be, but after revisiting the post it looks like people are saying 10+ is blackout territory.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24] * 1
    #26570191 - 03/31/20 11:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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What are your trips like with the 7 total grams?




I never fail to reach a "visionary" state on that dose while laying in bed in total darkness. Level 5 out of body experiences. I found the early experiences the best.

I did a big grow in 2017 and tripped every 2 weeks for several months. Then with no bad trips and no big decision... I was done. I feel they improved my mental health in so many ways. Improvements that persist 3 years later.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Hush] * 1
    #26570207 - 03/31/20 11:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

Orange24 said:

What are your trips like with the 7 total grams?




I never fail to reach a "visionary" state on that dose while laying in bed in total darkness. Level 5 out of body experiences. I found the early experiences the best.

I did a big grow in 2017 and tripped every 2 weeks for several months. Then with no bad trips and no big decision... I was done. I feel they improved my mental health in so many ways. Improvements that persist 3 years later.





I have been dealing with severe anxiety for 30 years and this last weekend had my
First real trip. 5g and laid down. I haven’t had a single moment of anxiety or depression since. I feel like a new person, like I was reset or defragmented...hard to explain. I’m in this for the mental health benefits and have read enough research to give it a shot. Goodness I can’t believe what I was missing out on.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
    #26571339 - 04/01/20 02:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

Pandemoon said:
Depends on what you seek.

For a fun recreational evening 1 to 3 grams is fine. For a deep journey inwards usually more is needed.

5g is the classic full dose, for most.

But the rabbit hole is deeper than that. :sun:

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What happens at 6-7-8-9?

At 5 it was probably the most profoundly pleasurable and insightful journey of my life. What happens beyond?



Probably can't rationalize a 5+gram trip other than "what the fuck":lol:


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26573231 - 04/02/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

When stepping up a dose is there a smart method? Like if 5 grams was blissfully powerful but I want to go a bit deeper would 7g be too much of a jump? 6.5g be better?


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
    #26575827 - 04/03/20 06:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Was the jump from 5g to 6.5 huge?


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
    #26577116 - 04/04/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The most I ever took was 5g and sometimes it hits me like a freight train and sometimes not so much. The batch, set and setting etc., are factors. So 3.5g-5g is my usual dose.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: FrankRhizo]
    #26578068 - 04/04/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don't think anyone can distantly recommend a dose based on grams. My third flush of maz from a mono was half as strong as the first. Not just my opinion, field testers reported the same. On the other hand, first flush PE was and is stunning potent, in a relative sense, two to three times more effective than the best cambos, maz, Huautla, GT, Ban Hua Thanon and B+ I've been lucky to study. I once stumbled into a gram of strange and was seeing evil dwarf creatures in the scaffolding above the band at a St Louis show. Fuckers hissed at me.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: InfraredRick]
    #26578073 - 04/04/20 08:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm first flush is more potent?

Anyway, I say don’t increase dosage by 1.5g at a time. Go for 5.5 or 6g MAX.

Or do 3.5g of PE as mentioned above :lol:


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: feldman114]
    #26578077 - 04/04/20 08:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Hmm first flush is more potent?

Anyway, I say don’t increase dosage by 1.5g at a time. Go for 5.5 or 6g MAX.

Or do 3.5g of PE as mentioned above :lol:




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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
    #26578083 - 04/04/20 08:56 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I still recommend 5.5

6-7g can feel twice as strong as 5g did:shrug:

You gotta respect the mushrooms and whatnot :rasta::nerd:


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
    #26578087 - 04/04/20 08:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

isn't there a calculator somewhere that'll give you vague "levels"? think it's on shroomery


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: feldman114] * 1
    #26578101 - 04/04/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Calculator can't measure potency. Yes, subsequent flushes of the Mazapatic were less potent. For sure. Now grow only PE and toss the big cake after second flush. Here's some killer dicks...



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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: InfraredRick]
    #26578141 - 04/04/20 09:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Back to Orange's OP.....with cubes you just don't know. Best thing is to be sure by road testing 1-2g to get a feel, wait a week, then go nuts. 3g of my PE is like 7+g of "normal" cube. I recently did 4g of PE and it was overfuckingwhelming, OEV were incredible. No deep spiritual stuff bc I learned those lessons long ago.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: InfraredRick]
    #26578148 - 04/04/20 09:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Back to Orange's OP.....with cubes you just don't know. Best thing is to be sure by road testing 1-2g to get a feel, wait a week, then go nuts. 3g of my PE is like 7+g of "normal" cube. I recently did 4g of PE and it was overfuckingwhelming, OEV were incredible. No deep spiritual stuff bc I learned those lessons long ago.




Eager to try PE.

Last trip was 5g tea fasted. Very very therapeutic. Never once felt shaky or scared but definitely felt this intense need to pay attention to where I was headed in the journey. Was extremely insightful and highly pleasurable. Looking for 6g next trip same batch so I know what kind of trip to “expect”. This batch I’ve done 3, 3.5g and 5.  Feel like I got a good idea of what to expect but again, these things can be highly unpredictable.


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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
    #26578848 - 04/05/20 07:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If you habe APEs colonizing, then there is no need to seek regular PEs. APE is just a white/albino PE.
Though the albino version is said to be even more potent than the regular penis envy.

So it's like APE > PE > > > normal cubes, potency wise. APEs are the most potent cubensis, so they all here say.

Never tried them myself, though. I recently got a PE swab from a (also) german shroomery member I'm going to spawn to agar soon. :laugh:
Tried to fruit PE once like two years ago but it didn't work, but this time I'm confident. :sun:

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If you habe APEs colonizing, then there is no need to seek regular PEs. APE is just a white/albino PE.
Though the albino version is said to be even more potent than the regular penis envy.

So it's like APE > PE > > > normal cubes, potency wise. APEs are the most potent cubensis, so they all here say.

Never tried them myself, though. I recently got a PE swab from a (also) german shroomery member I'm going to spawn to agar soon. :laugh:
Tried to fruit PE once like two years ago but it didn't work, but this time I'm confident. :sun:

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    #26587048 - 04/08/20 06:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I weigh 160lbs with a very fast metabolism and have done different varieties of mush over 500times.
For cubensis my body has been effected in ways of uncontrollable laughing,jello legs, large pupils anywhere from .8-1.6 dry grams. For a nice quality trip to experience God and have both auditory and visual halluconations begin at around 3-3.5g but 6g and up I am full blown out of body at some point.
CYans or liberty caps have both had very hard trips with many hallucinations at 1.5-2g and put of body beginning at 4g
Azurescens have hit me the hardest having a full blown trip after eating .4 (a very small stem) and at 3.1grams I was beyond any out of body trip. I had a full ego loss and almost psychotic form of a trip very powerful
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I weigh 160lbs with a very fast metabolism and have done different varieties of mush over 500times.
For cubensis my body has been effected in ways of uncontrollable laughing,jello legs, large pupils anywhere from .8-1.6 dry grams. For a nice quality trip to experience God and have both auditory and visual halluconations begin at around 3-3.5g but 6g and up I am full blown out of body at some point.
CYans or liberty caps have both had very hard trips with many hallucinations at 1.5-2g and put of body beginning at 4g
Azurescens have hit me the hardest having a full blown trip after eating .4 (a very small stem) and at 3.1grams I was beyond any out of body trip. I had a full ego loss and almost psychotic form of a trip very powerful
Amanitas differ greatly but if theyre dried and made into a tea 5-7g will usually effect me similar to a mile psilocybin jokes in ways of non-stop laughing and jello like mpvements



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I weigh 160lbs with a very fast metabolism and have done different varieties of mush over 500times.
For cubensis my body has been effected in ways of uncontrollable laughing,jello legs, large pupils anywhere from .8-1.6 dry grams. For a nice quality trip to experience God and have both auditory and visual halluconations begin at around 3-3.5g but 6g and up I am full blown out of body at some point.
CYans or liberty caps have both had very hard trips with many hallucinations at 1.5-2g and put of body beginning at 4g
Azurescens have hit me the hardest having a full blown trip after eating .4 (a very small stem) and at 3.1grams I was beyond any out of body trip. I had a full ego loss and almost psychotic form of a trip very powerful
Amanitas differ greatly but if theyre dried and made into a tea 5-7g will usually effect me similar to a mile psilocybin jokes in ways of non-stop laughing and jello like mpvements





Sounds like a lot of varieties you’d find in nature!! Those are crazy small doses for maximum effects! Sound crazy potent.


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    #26587240 - 04/08/20 08:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

most were grown in a lab. The liberty caps were picked in Oregon. But everything else was cultivated indoors.
I've only eaten field cubensis when it comes to half ounce or more when fully dried.
None of my weight is wet weight. But if it was you can just multiply each number by q0 to have a good estimate. But it would seem fresh mush in equivalent doses converted to wet weight would be much more stronger and more visual considering psilocin is degraded with oxygen and that has more visual components that psilocybin does.
But ya my first Azure trip blew my mind. I didn't even eat the whole boomer i just ate the stem and it was less than a half with. I had full blown close eyed visuals, lots of open eyed distortions and music were songs im familiar with but they all sounded brand new that day. Reminded me of like a half eith of cubes no lie. Azores are no joke. Cubes have like .67% of psilo per g dry....azures are more like 1.8% psilo per g. So basically 18mg of psilocybin which is a decent sized dose.
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    #26587322 - 04/08/20 08:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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What are your trips like with the 7 total grams?




I never fail to reach a "visionary" state on that dose while laying in bed in total darkness. Level 5 out of body experiences. I found the early experiences the best.

I did a big grow in 2017 and tripped every 2 weeks for several months. Then with no bad trips and no big decision... I was done. I feel they improved my mental health in so many ways. Improvements that persist 3 years later.





I have been dealing with severe anxiety for 30 years and this last weekend had my
First real trip. 5g and laid down. I haven’t had a single moment of anxiety or depression since. I feel like a new person, like I was reset or defragmented...hard to explain. I’m in this for the mental health benefits and have read enough research to give it a shot. Goodness I can’t believe what I was missing out on.




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    #26587346 - 04/08/20 08:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That's awesome, and it seems to mirror my first experience although all I had was 11g fresh.

Still a bit anxious about taking 5g like that. I honestly planned to work up to that dose in 1g increments per week.

I may change my mind, but whatever expectation I have going in I expect will dictate how the trip goes.


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    #26589123 - 04/09/20 03:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So I think my wife is the terminator?

She decided to trip for the first time in 4 years. I gave her 3g of GTs, an hour later her hands felt cold...and that’s it.
So I said fuck it, gave her 3.5g of PE blobs...another hour later she goes “I think I feel it” (a hard “no”, obv)
Finally, I gave her not 5, not 6, but 8g more of Blobbies. From her description, she was somewhere between lv 2&3.

Yeah, idk either. No SSRIs, no tolerance, no alcohol.🤷🏻‍♂️


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    #26589419 - 04/09/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

What’s a recreational dose for mushrooms? I’m trying to figure out how people do this recreationally, it seems to me, atleast in my experience that it seems only beneficial in a therapeutic setting...?


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    #26589768 - 04/09/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Any dose can be recreational. 

Much below a gram you don't feel anything explicitly, depending on strain/species.  Beyond that there's a large variation in the fun stuff.

Besides, the therapeutic effects were there long before the clinicians adopted this particular drug. :snoopyes:


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    #26589916 - 04/09/20 11:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

For me a recreational dose is defined as a dose appropiate for a recreational event such as a music show, music festival, movie, or nature walk.

For me, its typically between 1-2grams.


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    #26590557 - 04/10/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

last time, fall 2015, I took some Argentinean at 21:30, kick in by 22:00 and It finished at sunday 4:00. fractals,woman faces, closed eye hallucination,and I saw "colored spirals" (like snail shell). Add classic music and voila.
On your experience(s) and sensations cause the trip was long (6 hours)can you give me a response or responses: How many grams do you think I ate?


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    #26591378 - 04/10/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

3.5

5g+ start the vision quests

Havent tripped in a while, been too busy.

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    #26591432 - 04/10/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I normally eat between 7 and 9 grams. The only problem is I end up puking by the end of the night every time LOL.


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    #26591547 - 04/10/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Never puked before myself

Gone as high as 14 dry and 140 fresh in a tea

Empty stomach and tea on the sie seems to be good for me


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    #26591551 - 04/10/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

No nausea with tea! Works well. Just wish the peak lasted a little longer! I usually only get 2 really solid hours and all of it ends at 4.

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    #26591561 - 04/10/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I like to use orange juice myself (for the better taste and texture) :shrug:


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    #26591596 - 04/10/20 05:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I normally trip for at least six hours, most likely eight hours with the amount I eat. I just eat them with nothing else. 

I personally think the reason why I puke towards the middle or the end of the trip is because I actually lay down and watch one movie or two movies such as Alice in wonderland or fear and loathing in Las Vegas or something to that extent and then I actually get up after the movies and start moving around and I think that's what makes me nauseous for the most part.


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    #26591598 - 04/10/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I normally drink orange juice to wash them down.  If I don't have that, I'll just drink water, which is mostly what I drink anyway.


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    #26591631 - 04/10/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Everyone should drink water anywayz :awesome:

Im sensitive to tart stuff so OJ with pulp is my preferred juice.


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    #26591637 - 04/10/20 05:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Haha.  That's my favorite also bro!!!! 

my buddy asked me how much for the scraps I have left over which is 1.5 after me and my girl eat what I have out on the table.

I told him just bring me a Wawa orange juice and we are good LMAO.


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    #26592533 - 04/11/20 01:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I’ve recently started freezing fresh te, as per PrimalSoup’s tea method here.

For years now I have stored cracker dry mushrooms in the freezer, in sealed bags and tubs. I make tea from them and always soak the mushrooms with lemon juice before adding boiling water. Boil the mixture for 10 to 20 minutes then strain out the mushroom material and drink the tea. Never any nausea.

But the first fresh tea I mad a few weeks back, I also soaked the fresh mushrooms in lemon. This trip was so much more intense, and so much shorter than an equivalent trip from dry. So I’ve concluded the lemon is overkill for fresh. Although the peak was super intense, it was all done in about two hours, so that by hour 3, I was on really fast and lucid come down. Was in bed by hour 4.

Lemon and dry; always get between 4 and 6 hours, not between 2 or 3 for fresh.

So my future fresh tea ice cubes are going to be made with citric acid, weighed to give a ratio of 1:50 to fresh mushroom weight. That is, enough to preserve and extract the psychoactives, but hopefully not too strong to shorten the trip........

I’ll let you know in a few months (just got rid of over 1kg frozen ice cubes the other day (hadn’t sealed them so the psilocin had degraded in a matter of days :sad:)


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    #26592809 - 04/11/20 06:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Can anyone explain how a person with 0 tolerance can eat 14g in a night and have a lv3 trip? Is she a superhero or a zombie?

This is killing me. I even took 3g of that batch thinking they were bunk mushies, but tripped as per usual.


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    #26592984 - 04/11/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I wouldn’t believe it if I wasn’t there cause it goes against everything I read in Psy Exp.

Is it really all so relative?

She says she’s ready for a more therapeutic trip. Like, how do I even begin calculating how much to give her? I’m thinking 20g dry PE, since she had 3+3.5+8g 4 days ago?


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    #26593019 - 04/11/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Ive heard of people having abnormal tolerances that make no sense to those of us who get a decent trip from 3.5g

I would try again but dose all at once and have a decent fast for her before hand.

Wouldnt wana jump too far and accidently blow her mind if it was a fluke

Shes not on meds?

Its strange but ive heard of it here and there, eating outrageous doses that arent strong to the user


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    #26593035 - 04/11/20 09:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I've seen it, the woman received a pretty bad TBI years ago so maybe that played a part.


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    #26593076 - 04/11/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, no SSRI’s. The only meds she takes is for a hormone disorder, but it never effected her LSD trips...though it HAS been a long time.
You’re making sense Enkidu, thanks. I guess we’ll wait a bit longer, fast all day, and try 7g.

@Psi, yeah, no brain injuries either.

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    #26593364 - 04/11/20 12:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

2-3g normal cubes. Or half of that for (A)PE.


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