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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
#26578087 - 04/04/20 08:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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isn't there a calculator somewhere that'll give you vague "levels"? think it's on shroomery
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Calculator can't measure potency. Yes, subsequent flushes of the Mazapatic were less potent. For sure. Now grow only PE and toss the big cake after second flush. Here's some killer dicks...
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Back to Orange's OP.....with cubes you just don't know. Best thing is to be sure by road testing 1-2g to get a feel, wait a week, then go nuts. 3g of my PE is like 7+g of "normal" cube. I recently did 4g of PE and it was overfuckingwhelming, OEV were incredible. No deep spiritual stuff bc I learned those lessons long ago.
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InfraredRick said: Back to Orange's OP.....with cubes you just don't know. Best thing is to be sure by road testing 1-2g to get a feel, wait a week, then go nuts. 3g of my PE is like 7+g of "normal" cube. I recently did 4g of PE and it was overfuckingwhelming, OEV were incredible. No deep spiritual stuff bc I learned those lessons long ago.
Eager to try PE.
Last trip was 5g tea fasted. Very very therapeutic. Never once felt shaky or scared but definitely felt this intense need to pay attention to where I was headed in the journey. Was extremely insightful and highly pleasurable. Looking for 6g next trip same batch so I know what kind of trip to “expect”. This batch I’ve done 3, 3.5g and 5. Feel like I got a good idea of what to expect but again, these things can be highly unpredictable.
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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
#26578848 - 04/05/20 07:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you habe APEs colonizing, then there is no need to seek regular PEs. APE is just a white/albino PE. Though the albino version is said to be even more potent than the regular penis envy.
So it's like APE > PE > > > normal cubes, potency wise. APEs are the most potent cubensis, so they all here say.
Never tried them myself, though. I recently got a PE swab from a (also) german shroomery member I'm going to spawn to agar soon.  Tried to fruit PE once like two years ago but it didn't work, but this time I'm confident. 
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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Pandemoon]
#26579094 - 04/05/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pandemoon said: If you habe APEs colonizing, then there is no need to seek regular PEs. APE is just a white/albino PE. Though the albino version is said to be even more potent than the regular penis envy.
So it's like APE > PE > > > normal cubes, potency wise. APEs are the most potent cubensis, so they all here say.
Never tried them myself, though. I recently got a PE swab from a (also) german shroomery member I'm going to spawn to agar soon.  Tried to fruit PE once like two years ago but it didn't work, but this time I'm confident. 
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We’ll see if it works. I’ve had failed attempts too.
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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24] 1
#26587048 - 04/08/20 06:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I weigh 160lbs with a very fast metabolism and have done different varieties of mush over 500times. For cubensis my body has been effected in ways of uncontrollable laughing,jello legs, large pupils anywhere from .8-1.6 dry grams. For a nice quality trip to experience God and have both auditory and visual halluconations begin at around 3-3.5g but 6g and up I am full blown out of body at some point. CYans or liberty caps have both had very hard trips with many hallucinations at 1.5-2g and put of body beginning at 4g Azurescens have hit me the hardest having a full blown trip after eating .4 (a very small stem) and at 3.1grams I was beyond any out of body trip. I had a full ego loss and almost psychotic form of a trip very powerful Amanitas differ greatly but if theyre dried and made into a tea 5-7g will usually effect me similar to a mile psilocybin jokes in ways of non-stop laughing and jello like mpvements
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Tripglass420 said: I weigh 160lbs with a very fast metabolism and have done different varieties of mush over 500times. For cubensis my body has been effected in ways of uncontrollable laughing,jello legs, large pupils anywhere from .8-1.6 dry grams. For a nice quality trip to experience God and have both auditory and visual halluconations begin at around 3-3.5g but 6g and up I am full blown out of body at some point. CYans or liberty caps have both had very hard trips with many hallucinations at 1.5-2g and put of body beginning at 4g Azurescens have hit me the hardest having a full blown trip after eating .4 (a very small stem) and at 3.1grams I was beyond any out of body trip. I had a full ego loss and almost psychotic form of a trip very powerful Amanitas differ greatly but if theyre dried and made into a tea 5-7g will usually effect me similar to a mile psilocybin jokes in ways of non-stop laughing and jello like mpvements
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Tripglass420 said: I weigh 160lbs with a very fast metabolism and have done different varieties of mush over 500times. For cubensis my body has been effected in ways of uncontrollable laughing,jello legs, large pupils anywhere from .8-1.6 dry grams. For a nice quality trip to experience God and have both auditory and visual halluconations begin at around 3-3.5g but 6g and up I am full blown out of body at some point. CYans or liberty caps have both had very hard trips with many hallucinations at 1.5-2g and put of body beginning at 4g Azurescens have hit me the hardest having a full blown trip after eating .4 (a very small stem) and at 3.1grams I was beyond any out of body trip. I had a full ego loss and almost psychotic form of a trip very powerful Amanitas differ greatly but if theyre dried and made into a tea 5-7g will usually effect me similar to a mile psilocybin jokes in ways of non-stop laughing and jello like mpvements
Sounds like a lot of varieties you’d find in nature!! Those are crazy small doses for maximum effects! Sound crazy potent.
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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
#26587240 - 04/08/20 08:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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most were grown in a lab. The liberty caps were picked in Oregon. But everything else was cultivated indoors. I've only eaten field cubensis when it comes to half ounce or more when fully dried. None of my weight is wet weight. But if it was you can just multiply each number by q0 to have a good estimate. But it would seem fresh mush in equivalent doses converted to wet weight would be much more stronger and more visual considering psilocin is degraded with oxygen and that has more visual components that psilocybin does. But ya my first Azure trip blew my mind. I didn't even eat the whole boomer i just ate the stem and it was less than a half with. I had full blown close eyed visuals, lots of open eyed distortions and music were songs im familiar with but they all sounded brand new that day. Reminded me of like a half eith of cubes no lie. Azores are no joke. Cubes have like .67% of psilo per g dry....azures are more like 1.8% psilo per g. So basically 18mg of psilocybin which is a decent sized dose. Fun nontheless
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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
#26587322 - 04/08/20 08:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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What are your trips like with the 7 total grams?
I never fail to reach a "visionary" state on that dose while laying in bed in total darkness. Level 5 out of body experiences. I found the early experiences the best.
I did a big grow in 2017 and tripped every 2 weeks for several months. Then with no bad trips and no big decision... I was done. I feel they improved my mental health in so many ways. Improvements that persist 3 years later.
I have been dealing with severe anxiety for 30 years and this last weekend had my First real trip. 5g and laid down. I haven’t had a single moment of anxiety or depression since. I feel like a new person, like I was reset or defragmented...hard to explain. I’m in this for the mental health benefits and have read enough research to give it a shot. Goodness I can’t believe what I was missing out on.
Yeah, that's how it works.
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That's awesome, and it seems to mirror my first experience although all I had was 11g fresh.
Still a bit anxious about taking 5g like that. I honestly planned to work up to that dose in 1g increments per week.
I may change my mind, but whatever expectation I have going in I expect will dictate how the trip goes.
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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: RyeHumor]
#26589123 - 04/09/20 03:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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So I think my wife is the terminator?
She decided to trip for the first time in 4 years. I gave her 3g of GTs, an hour later her hands felt cold...and that’s it. So I said fuck it, gave her 3.5g of PE blobs...another hour later she goes “I think I feel it” (a hard “no”, obv) Finally, I gave her not 5, not 6, but 8g more of Blobbies. From her description, she was somewhere between lv 2&3.
Yeah, idk either. No SSRIs, no tolerance, no alcohol.🤷🏻♂️
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What’s a recreational dose for mushrooms? I’m trying to figure out how people do this recreationally, it seems to me, atleast in my experience that it seems only beneficial in a therapeutic setting...?
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#26589768 - 04/09/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Any dose can be recreational.
Much below a gram you don't feel anything explicitly, depending on strain/species. Beyond that there's a large variation in the fun stuff.
Besides, the therapeutic effects were there long before the clinicians adopted this particular drug.
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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Orange24]
#26589916 - 04/09/20 11:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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For me a recreational dose is defined as a dose appropiate for a recreational event such as a music show, music festival, movie, or nature walk.
For me, its typically between 1-2grams.
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last time, fall 2015, I took some Argentinean at 21:30, kick in by 22:00 and It finished at sunday 4:00. fractals,woman faces, closed eye hallucination,and I saw "colored spirals" (like snail shell). Add classic music and voila. On your experience(s) and sensations cause the trip was long (6 hours)can you give me a response or responses: How many grams do you think I ate?
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3.5
5g+ start the vision quests
Havent tripped in a while, been too busy.
Next trip will be 3g prolly. Or 2.5 in tea
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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Enkidu]
#26591432 - 04/10/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I normally eat between 7 and 9 grams. The only problem is I end up puking by the end of the night every time LOL.
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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Cojack69]
#26591547 - 04/10/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Never puked before myself
Gone as high as 14 dry and 140 fresh in a tea
Empty stomach and tea on the sie seems to be good for me
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Re: Preferred dose?? [Re: Enkidu]
#26591551 - 04/10/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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No nausea with tea! Works well. Just wish the peak lasted a little longer! I usually only get 2 really solid hours and all of it ends at 4.
Lemon tek vs tea? Anyone have an opinion?
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