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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted] 2
#26565880 - 03/29/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-22/coronavirus-outbreak-nobel-laureate
Why this Nobel laureate predicts a quicker coronavirus recovery: ‘We’re going to be fine’
Michael Levitt, a Nobel laureate and Stanford biophysicist, began analyzing the number of COVID-19 cases worldwide in January and correctly calculated that China would get through the worst of its coronavirus outbreak long before many health experts had predicted.
Now he foresees a similar outcome in the United States and the rest of the world.
While many epidemiologists are warning of months, or even years, of massive social disruption and millions of deaths, Levitt says the data simply don’t support such a dire scenario — especially in areas where reasonable social distancing measures are in place.
Three weeks later, Levitt told the China Daily News that the virus’ rate of growth had peaked. He predicted that the total number of confirmed COVID-19 cases in China would end up around 80,000, with about 3,250 deaths.
This forecast turned out to be remarkably accurate: As of March 16, China had counted a total of 80,298 cases and 3,245 deaths — in a nation of nearly 1.4 billion people where roughly 10 million die every year. The number of newly diagnosed patients has dropped to around 25 a day, with no cases of community spread reported since Wednesday....
Levitt said he’s in sync with those calling for strong measures to fight the outbreak. The social-distancing mandates are critical — particularly the ban on large gatherings — because the virus is so new that the population has no immunity to it, and a vaccine is still many months away. “This is not the time to go out drinking with your buddies,” he said....
But he also blames the media for causing unnecessary panic by focusing on the relentless increase in the cumulative number of cases and spotlighting celebrities who contract the virus. By contrast, the flu has sickened 36 million Americans since September and killed an estimated 22,000, according to the CDC, but those deaths are largely unreported.
Levitt fears the public health measures that have shut down large swaths of the economy could cause their own health catastrophe, as lost jobs lead to poverty and hopelessness. Time and again, researchers have seen that suicide rates go up when the economy spirals down.
While the COVID-19 fatality rate appears to be significantly higher than that of the flu, Levitt says it is, quite simply put, “not the end of the world.”
“The real situation is not as nearly as terrible as they make it out to be,” he said.
Dr. Loren Miller, a physician and infectious diseases researcher at the Lundquist Institute for Biomedical Innovation at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, said it’s premature to draw any conclusions — either rosy or bleak — about the course the pandemic will take.
“There’s a lot of uncertainty right now,” he said. “In China they nipped it in the bud in the nick of time. In the U.S. we might have, or we might not have. We just don’t know.”
Personally, I think this is bullshit. This guy thinks China's numbers are truthful?
If that was the case, why would a SINGLE funeral home have 10,000 urns shipped to its doors over the course of two days? It's obvious the numbers are incorrect. And there's a reason that China didn't allow the CDC to investigate the virus outbreak early into the issue. They are hiding as much as possible.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Colours] 3
#26565893 - 03/29/20 06:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Looks like the UK isn't buying China's numbers either, and they believe it could be up to 40x worse than China is reporting. UK going to reevaluate their recent deals with China.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-boris-johnsons-government-reportedly-furious-with-china-2020-3
A head doctor has disappeared over their attempts to inform the world about the coronavirus and how China has handled the situation.
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#China has "disappeared" Ai Fen, the head of emergency at Wuhan Central Hospital, after she tried to go public about the Communist regime's mishandling of the #coronavirus outbreak.
https://twitter.com/KyleWOrton/status/1244416386971193345
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Colours]
#26565910 - 03/29/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Very sad if true
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: cannabinated] 2
#26565933 - 03/29/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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cannabinated said: for the capitalist death machine
Just add it on to the hot rod death toll
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: InfiniteDreams]
#26565978 - 03/29/20 07:49 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Coronavirus Curve - Numberphile
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted] 1
#26566065 - 03/29/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Eat the meat that’s at your feet.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Hunter hunter]
#26566068 - 03/29/20 09:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do you think China did a mass culling of possible infected people? Is that why we will be going to war with them? Or at least the reason they are going to use. We’ll need to go in and kill more of them to prove it was wrong?
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Hunter hunter] 3
#26566114 - 03/29/20 10:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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take it to the conspiracy forum
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: ballsalsa]
#26566121 - 03/29/20 10:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: take it to the conspiracy forum
My bad it was in response to the video that was just posted about the million cell phone users in China that went silent. I’ll do my best to stay on topic.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted] 1
#26566126 - 03/29/20 10:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-22/coronavirus-outbreak-nobel-laureate
Why this Nobel laureate predicts a quicker coronavirus recovery: ‘We’re going to be fine’
Michael Levitt, a Nobel laureate and Stanford biophysicist, began analyzing the number of COVID-19 cases worldwide in January and correctly calculated that China would get through the worst of its coronavirus outbreak long before many health experts had predicted.
Now he foresees a similar outcome in the United States and the rest of the world.
While many epidemiologists are warning of months, or even years, of massive social disruption and millions of deaths, Levitt says the data simply don’t support such a dire scenario — especially in areas where reasonable social distancing measures are in place.
Three weeks later, Levitt told the China Daily News that the virus’ rate of growth had peaked. He predicted that the total number of confirmed COVID-19 cases in China would end up around 80,000, with about 3,250 deaths.
This forecast turned out to be remarkably accurate: As of March 16, China had counted a total of 80,298 cases and 3,245 deaths — in a nation of nearly 1.4 billion people where roughly 10 million die every year. The number of newly diagnosed patients has dropped to around 25 a day, with no cases of community spread reported since Wednesday....
Levitt said he’s in sync with those calling for strong measures to fight the outbreak. The social-distancing mandates are critical — particularly the ban on large gatherings — because the virus is so new that the population has no immunity to it, and a vaccine is still many months away. “This is not the time to go out drinking with your buddies,” he said....
But he also blames the media for causing unnecessary panic by focusing on the relentless increase in the cumulative number of cases and spotlighting celebrities who contract the virus. By contrast, the flu has sickened 36 million Americans since September and killed an estimated 22,000, according to the CDC, but those deaths are largely unreported.
Levitt fears the public health measures that have shut down large swaths of the economy could cause their own health catastrophe, as lost jobs lead to poverty and hopelessness. Time and again, researchers have seen that suicide rates go up when the economy spirals down.
While the COVID-19 fatality rate appears to be significantly higher than that of the flu, Levitt says it is, quite simply put, “not the end of the world.”
“The real situation is not as nearly as terrible as they make it out to be,” he said.
Dr. Loren Miller, a physician and infectious diseases researcher at the Lundquist Institute for Biomedical Innovation at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, said it’s premature to draw any conclusions — either rosy or bleak — about the course the pandemic will take.
“There’s a lot of uncertainty right now,” he said. “In China they nipped it in the bud in the nick of time. In the U.S. we might have, or we might not have. We just don’t know.”
I’m with Levitt 100% ride or die homie
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods] 1
#26566170 - 03/29/20 10:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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koods said: How to sterilize groceries
Hello doc! He could give me a prostate exam anytime.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Colours]
#26566191 - 03/29/20 11:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I live in Minnesota. These lockdowns are far worse than any virus. We cannot let our constitution be trampled on because of fear mongering. I’ve been dating a girl for one week, and I just learned she’s suicidal. I would’ve been with her tonight but I said ‘sorry babe it’s the law I can’t come over’ she left her moms house and no one knows where she went. I drove around looking for her and she ignored my texts, she also owns a gun. I’m sorry if that’s off topic, but I don’t know if she’s alive or dead because one man signed a piece of paper so he’d have a better chance of getting re-elected.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Mystery Box] 1
#26566194 - 03/29/20 11:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Holy fuck! Take it easy and good luck.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: tyrannicalrex] 6
#26566206 - 03/29/20 11:22 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mystery Box said: I live in Minnesota. These lockdowns are far worse than any virus. We cannot let our constitution be trampled on because of fear mongering. I’ve been dating a girl for one week, and I just learned she’s suicidal. I would’ve been with her tonight but I said ‘sorry babe it’s the law I can’t come over’ she left her moms house and no one knows where she went. I drove around looking for her and she ignored my texts, she also owns a gun. I’m sorry if that’s off topic, but I don’t know if she’s alive or dead because one man signed a piece of paper so he’d have a better chance of getting re-elected.
Sorry for your sitch but this is a shit take. If you wanted to see her you could. Just because you said ‘sorry babe it’s the law I can’t come over’ doesn’t make it so. I read the rules of the MN lockdown, it’s not so serious you couldn’t find a way if you really wanted to. It’s for the greater good and she’s one girl. Shitty situation but not a boo-hoo for you kinda deal
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: tyrannicalrex] 4
#26566208 - 03/29/20 11:25 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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As far as I'm aware, you're really just not supposed to have parties and congregate in groups. I think technically going to someone's house when you don't need to be is technically a violation, but at the end of the day things are about reasonable enforcement. Having your significant other over would probably not be scrutinized very much or even noticed.
If you have no reason to expect either of you being infected, and don't live with high risk individuals, I'd be hanging out personally. But that's just me. FWIW I live in Minnesota as well. It's not as if they are arresting people for chilling at home.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: ballsalsa] 2
#26566235 - 03/29/20 11:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: take it to the conspiracy forum
That's whats up!
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26566272 - 03/30/20 12:04 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Booyah!
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26566276 - 03/30/20 12:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 3
#26566304 - 03/30/20 12:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Portlandians(if that's what you call'em?): Yeah, I got this new flu virus, you probably never heard of it.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26566321 - 03/30/20 12:45 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice. Coronavirus was so 2019 bro (Covid-19)
I think its Portlanders.
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