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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: 1234go] * 2
    #26565538 - 03/29/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I eat onions like they are apples.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted] * 2
    #26565549 - 03/29/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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If they do use chloroquines on you should you catch it, at least you are already preloaded with zinc for maximum effectiveness.





I am also banking on there being something to this

Plant Lectins Are Potent Inhibitors of Coronaviruses by Interfering With Two Targets in the Viral Replication Cycle


Would be ironic if it turned out that a lot of folks dying of covid might not have if they had just eaten more raw plants



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Potatoes, Tomatoes and Peanuts are high in COVID-hindering lectins.

Capers and Onions are high in Quercetin which also helps the body fight COVID




This article I posted focuses on Amaryllis, but if I am interpreting it correctly, garlic outperforms the other plants by quite a lot. See table 2

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The antiviral activity spectrum of plant lectins varies considerably, depending on the nature of their sugar specificity. In general, the mannose-specific plant lectins are highly effective against coronaviruses. It is also possible that plant lectins with different specificity interfere with different targets necessary for viral entry, depending on the place of the glycans that are targeted




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The most prominent anti-coronavirus activity was found among the mannose-specific plant lectins. In the SARS-CoV spike protein there are 12 N-glycosylation sites. The sugars attached to four of these N-glycosylation sites have been identified (Krokhin et al., 2003). Two of the four sugars were found to be high-mannose type glycans, whereas the other two showed complex glycan structures (Krokhin et al., 2003). The presence of high-mannose type glycans can explain the potent anti-SARS-CoV activity of mannose-specific plant lectins.





The ones they list that work against coronavirus spike proteins are amaryllis, daffodil, red spider lily, leek, ramsons, garlic, taro, broad-leaved helleburine, tulip, and black mulberry tree


@DarkStar: Yeah I fully expect them to swoop in like vultures the moment the dust settles.





Looks like Leeks are best, and Garlic is ineffective

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354207002380?via%3Dihub

3.1. Antiviral activity of plant lectins

A broad range of plant lectins with different specificities were evaluated in a colorimetric cell culture-based assay for their antiviral activity against coronaviruses, namely the SARS-CoV and FIPV. The antiviral activities, represented by their 50% effective concentration or EC50, and the cytotoxic activity in Vero and CrFK cells, represented by their 50% cytotoxic concentration or CC50 are shown together with the sugar specificity of the different plant lectins in Table 2. Out of the 33 plant lectins tested against SARS-CoV and FIPV, 15 lectins had antiviral properties against both Coronaviruses; 5 plant lectins were active only against SARS-CoV and 2 lectins showed solely activity against FIPV. Eight lectins were inactive against both SARS-CoV and FIPV. All mannose-binding lectins, except for the lectins isolated from garlic, had anti-coronavirus properties. Cytotoxicity in Vero and CrFK cells was measured in parallel with the determination of the antiviral activity. In general, plant lectins were more toxic to CrFK cells than to Vero E6 cells. The most potent lectin against the SARS-CoV-induced cytopathicity is the mannose-specific plant lectin isolated from leek (APA) with an EC50 of 0.45 μg/ml and a selectivity index of >222. In addition, the N-acetyl glucosamine-specific lectins isolated from the stinging nettle (UDA) and from the tobacco plant (Nictaba) are also markedly active against the SARS-CoV with a selectivity index of >77 and >59, respectively. For FIPV, the most active lectin is the mannose-specific lectin isolated from the twayblade (LOA) with an EC50 of 0.7 μg/ml and a selectivity index of >143


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Crazy_Horse] * 4
    #26565590 - 03/29/20 03:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: 1234go] * 1
    #26565591 - 03/29/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

does soy lecithin do anything?


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    #26565606 - 03/29/20 03:48 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It allows you to suspend weed butter in aqueous gelatin solution to make gummies.

Because water and fat will otherwise separate.

Not sure other than that.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: susurrador] * 1
    #26565610 - 03/29/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Koods was right, theres people everywhere :omgz:


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 1
    #26565629 - 03/29/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Just dug it recently, Allicin and or diallyl-disulfide from Garlic: these aromatic & nasty-smelly substances are a candidate for coronavirus cys proteases inhibitor.

Gingerol from fresh ginger present in such root concoction or in ginger bug is in the candidate list.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339907086_Potential_Inhibitor_of_COVID-19_Main_Protease_Mpro_From_Several_Medicinal_Plant_Compounds_by_Molecular_Docking_Study

Tonic plants are good.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: pacmanbreed] * 1
    #26565633 - 03/29/20 04:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Very cool!

Just found out theres a US hotline for COVID-19: Call 211


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: HamHead] * 3
    #26565642 - 03/29/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



gdi, morrow hope that on top of all the shortages you guys are facing you don't end up with an inadequate product while you are in dire need of reliable replacements

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Dutch officials have recalled 600,000 face masks manufactured in China because they did not meet quality standards, the government’s health ministry said on Saturday.

The news shocked frontline medical staff in the Netherlands, who rely on high-quality products to protect them from contracting Covid-19, Dutch public broadcaster NOS said.

Half of the shipment of 1.3 million supposedly top-of-the-line face masks – known as N95 in the United States and Hong Kong – had already been distributed to doctors and nurses treating the most critical Covid-19 patients, the government said.
N95 masks – known as FFP2 in Europe or KN95 in mainland China – play a critical role in health care, as they are supposed to block over 90 per cent of airborne particles that may carry the coronavirus

The Dutch experience is not the first time that European countries have had problems with coronavirus-related medical equipment manufactured in China.
Last week, Spain announced that hundreds of thousands of rapid test kits
sent by a Chinese company were unreliable, following similar reports in the Czech Republic.

According to the Dutch Ministry of Health, Welfare and Sport, the masks did not fit well and the filters did not function properly. It was not immediately clear whether the batch in question was given to the Netherlands as a donation or came through a commercial transaction.

“Due to shortages, we have found ourselves in a situation where the only protective equipment available does not meet the highest standards. This is an issue in all countries,” according to a statement released by the ministry.

“Last Saturday, the first shipment from a Chinese manufacturer was delivered in part. These are masks with a KN95 quality certificate.”

The ministry was notified by inspectors that the quality of this shipment “did not meet the [quality] criteria” for the product. “Part of this shipment was delivered to health care providers, while the rest of the cargo was immediately put on hold and was not distributed further,” the ministry said.

“A second test also showed that the masks did not meet quality standards. It has now been decided that the whole shipment would not be used. New shipments will undergo an additional test.”

The problem with the Chinese masks was first discovered by hospitals that received them, with health workers finding the masks did not fit properly, casting doubt on the quality of the product.

FFP2 face masks are supposed to have a filter efficiency of 92 per cent, according to European standards. Dutch broadcaster NOS cited a source saying that the Chinese face masks were “not FFP2 quality nor of the lesser safety level of FFP1 – some sort of FFP0.8 at best”, meaning they had less than half the filter efficiency required for the FFP2 designation.

“When they were delivered to our hospital, I immediately rejected those masks,” a person from a hospital who received a batch of defective masks was quoted as saying by NOS. “If the masks do not fit properly, the virus particles can simply pass through. We did not use them. They are unsafe for our people.”

A spokesperson for the Catharina Hospital in the Dutch city of Eindhoven said the batch they received was rejected immediately. “It is not just this time, there is a lot of junk on the market. There are people trying to take advantage of the current crisis, at high prices,” the spokesperson said.

The Chinese embassy in the Netherlands could not be immediately reached for comment.
Last week, Madrid stopped using a rapid Covid-19 test kit made by a Chinese company after research suggested it was not accurate enough.

While the Chinese company claimed its test kits had an accuracy rate of 80 per cent, the Spanish Society of Infectious Diseases and Clinical Microbiology found that they got the results wrong 70 per cent of time.



https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3077428/netherlands-recalls-600000-face-masks-china-due-low-quality


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Tantrika]
    #26565651 - 03/29/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I think they grossly over tested, prolly with shit tests, to fudge the numbers


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: cannabinated]
    #26565652 - 03/29/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

for the capitalist death machine


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26565677 - 03/29/20 04:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you!!


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted] * 3
    #26565742 - 03/29/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Honestly, no country should accept any help from China.  China is probably using it to their advantage.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #26565748 - 03/29/20 05:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Everyone should greet China with peace and love for their great benevolence in this trying situation. :cookiemonster:


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    #26565757 - 03/29/20 05:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

maybe the gas price war is a means to spread the disease in america


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    #26565761 - 03/29/20 05:21 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Everyone should greet China with peace and love for their great benevolence in this trying situation. :cookiemonster:



Certainly not they owe us. We do need help and if they didn't produce defective equipment it'd be much needed irreaguardless of the fact that they were hoarding the equipment at first and now the whole world is suffering because of their fuck ups. That being said we need help period and if they have reliable equptiment to give.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #26565784 - 03/29/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

21 million cellphones users are now gone in China further raising suspicion that the death toll in China is expontentially higher then theyre telling us and these people are connected to their phones at the hip so many are very suspicious about this here's a piece on it. All these phone numbers are accounts that have been disabled meet the criteria of spending 0$ over the course of a month. Even with the phone accounts that were due to financial reasons there's still 6 billion more to explain. Experts estimate somewhere around 1 million is closer to the real number.



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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #26565800 - 03/29/20 05:48 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

China has citizens working abroad in Chinese companies to focus solely on getting medical supplies to send back to China. That means accounting people, HR, every damn position you can imagine stopped working and focused on finding supplies to ship  back to China, leaving multiple countries with reduced numbers of supplies.

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"Basically all employees, the majority of whom are Chinese, were asked to source whatever medical supplies they could," one company insider told the Herald. This exercise went on for weeks through January and February, he said.

The entire accounts department, contract managers, the human resources team and even receptionists were sent on a mission to find bulk supplies of surgical masks, thermometers, antibacterial wipes, hand sanitisers, gloves and Panadol.
"There were numerous requests from the HR manager and even our direct reporting line [which] prioritised the assisting of the company in gathering these supplies over other work activities," said the source. The entire accounts department were absent for days as they were out purchasing supplies, he said.




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According to a company newsletter, the Greenland Group sourced 3 million protective masks, 700,000 hazmat suits and 500,000 pairs of protective gloves from "Australia, Canada, Turkey and other countries."




https://www.smh.com.au/national/chinese-backed-company-s-mission-to-source-australian-medical-supplies-20200325-p54du8.html


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Colours] * 2
    #26565826 - 03/29/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-22/coronavirus-outbreak-nobel-laureate


Why this Nobel laureate predicts a quicker coronavirus recovery: ‘We’re going to be fine’

Michael Levitt, a Nobel laureate and Stanford biophysicist, began analyzing the number of COVID-19 cases worldwide in January and correctly calculated that China would get through the worst of its coronavirus outbreak long before many health experts had predicted.

Now he foresees a similar outcome in the United States and the rest of the world.

While many epidemiologists are warning of months, or even years, of massive social disruption and millions of deaths, Levitt says the data simply don’t support such a dire scenario — especially in areas where reasonable social distancing measures are in place.

Three weeks later, Levitt told the China Daily News that the virus’ rate of growth had peaked. He predicted that the total number of confirmed COVID-19 cases in China would end up around 80,000, with about 3,250 deaths.

This forecast turned out to be remarkably accurate: As of March 16, China had counted a total of 80,298 cases and 3,245 deaths — in a nation of nearly 1.4 billion people where roughly 10 million die every year. The number of newly diagnosed patients has dropped to around 25 a day, with no cases of community spread reported since Wednesday....

Levitt said he’s in sync with those calling for strong measures to fight the outbreak. The social-distancing mandates are critical — particularly the ban on large gatherings — because the virus is so new that the population has no immunity to it, and a vaccine is still many months away. “This is not the time to go out drinking with your buddies,” he said....

But he also blames the media for causing unnecessary panic by focusing on the relentless increase in the cumulative number of cases and spotlighting celebrities who contract the virus. By contrast, the flu has sickened 36 million Americans since September and killed an estimated 22,000, according to the CDC, but those deaths are largely unreported.

Levitt fears the public health measures that have shut down large swaths of the economy could cause their own health catastrophe, as lost jobs lead to poverty and hopelessness. Time and again, researchers have seen that suicide rates go up when the economy spirals down.

While the COVID-19 fatality rate appears to be significantly higher than that of the flu, Levitt says it is, quite simply put, “not the end of the world.”

“The real situation is not as nearly as terrible as they make it out to be,” he said.

Dr. Loren Miller, a physician and infectious diseases researcher at the Lundquist Institute for Biomedical Innovation at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, said it’s premature to draw any conclusions — either rosy or bleak — about the course the pandemic will take.

“There’s a lot of uncertainty right now,” he said. “In China they nipped it in the bud in the nick of time. In the U.S. we might have, or we might not have. We just don’t know.”



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