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What kind of whole oats
#26565457 - 03/29/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looking to use whole oats as my grain spawn but not sure what kind of oats I should buy. Organic? Steel-cut? Rolled? Instant? With or without the hull? Are there any specific stores that sell 50lb bags for ~$15-20 (this is the price I see other people pay around this forum)
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: ouuwee] 1
#26565481 - 03/29/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Whole oats. No steel cut, no hulls removed. Whole oats you feed your horses.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: Sockadin] 1
#26565485 - 03/29/20 02:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I get em from tractor supply, it will say WHOLE OATS haha
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: ouuwee] 1
#26565522 - 03/29/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Check feed stores if you have any near you.
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my local feed store has 50lb whole oats for $15 without the hull and its $26 with the hull. Why is there such a big price difference? And does it really matter if it has the hull or not
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: ouuwee]
#26567699 - 03/30/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hulls removed isn't whole. They're called groats when the hulls are removed.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: ouuwee]
#26567700 - 03/30/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ya, you need the hull. It's weird that the hulled version would be cheaper, I'd recommend you check that again.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: poisoned]
#26567717 - 03/30/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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What's wrong with hulled oats/groats? How is it different from wheat or rye? What purpose does the hull have?
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: One of Us]
#26567726 - 03/30/20 04:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you go without hulls, you'll end up with a sticky mess. Myc doesn't like sticky mess.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: One of Us]
#26567727 - 03/30/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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One works and the other you'd have to make up your own new tek for.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: poisoned]
#26567782 - 03/30/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you go without hulls, you'll end up with a sticky mess. Myc doesn't like sticky mess.
Good to know, thank you. So do they not have as strong of a "coating" on them as wheat or rye? Is that why you can't just cook them until hydrated, then dry the outsides, load, and then pc?
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: One of Us]
#26567849 - 03/30/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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You shouldnβt use any of those hulled, AFAIK.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: poisoned]
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Triple washed whole race horse oats will be cleanest. I get a 50# bag for 12$.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: eatyualive]
#26568109 - 03/30/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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^^ Yeah that's what I got too. I still fill up with water, put in a drop of detergent and stir vigorously before rinsing. Makes a huge difference when they are squeaky clean.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: poisoned]
#26568143 - 03/30/20 09:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you prep your grains right they shouldn't be a sticky mess. Quote:
bodhisatta said: One works and the other you'd have to make up your own new tek for.
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Plenty of the grains used as spawn have no hull.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: gizmo1]
#26568404 - 03/31/20 03:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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gizmo1 said: If you prep your grains right they shouldn't be a sticky mess.
Agreed, because they will still be in hulls. I'd love to be proven wrong, so show me a successful hulled oats grow.
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gizmo1 said: Plenty of the grains used as spawn have no hull.
I'm always seeing people using whole grains. But I don't have much experience with other grains, so I might be wrong.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: poisoned] 1
#26568572 - 03/31/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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You can certainly use hulled oats. You simply have to buy a bag of oat hulls and insert each hulled oat into a new hull.
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Like refried beans or twice baked potato, it is twice hulled oats.
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You guys are really making me want to try hulled oats myself, I don't understand why they won't work.
I do understand that nobody uses them, but I think that's because they are more expensive than whole oats, and the use of whole oats is better documented. I feel like you are all just parroting this because that's what it says in bod's tek... well the tek was written specifically for whole oats so that makes sense. And OP wasn't asking if they would work in bods tek.
bod even says Here that using a tek to do grains is like using an operating manual to drive a car rather than just using your senses; it is unnecessary.
I will try this out if I can find some. I wanna do this to save OP, and others in situations like his, from paying a premium for their whole oats, when in their weird case, hulled oats are much cheaper and may work just as well.
A google search for cooked whole groats yields this image which looks fine to me (for myco purposes)
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: One of Us]
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We are not parroting anything. Its because its obvious. Cooking a pot of hulled oats is like cooking a pot of jasmine rice. What do you get once the water is absorbed? a mass of shit stuck together. With hulls in place the sticky inner meat is contained within the hull. Not sure how to make that easier to grasp.
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Thank you this is the type of answer I was looking for... and I am sorry this wasn't obvious to me because I have never cooked groats before. I had no idea that it is like jasmine rice. Since you have tried them before did you try rinsing them before hand or not cooking as long? Is it that the bran doesn't hold back the starches well enough by itself? And needs the hull to reinforce it? Or is it that the bran itself is sticky when cooked, and it isn't a problem of the inner starch itself?
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: One of Us] 1
#26568724 - 03/31/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Even intact whole grains can stick together if over prepped. A grain that is processed in any way is going to compound that enormously, especially fully hulled grain. Mycelium will struggle to colonize it, you will struggle to shake said "grains" and the will likely be contamination magnets. Basically, just use whole grains. There are plenty of pieces to innovate in the hobby but reinventing the wheel that the pieces ride on is not wise IMO.
There are such things as uncle bens tek but nobody around here talks about that stuff. I personally find it a cringy concept as well.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: poisoned]
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gizmo1 said: If you prep your grains right they shouldn't be a sticky mess.
Agreed, because they will still be in hulls. I'd love to be proven wrong, so show me a successful hulled oats grow.
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gizmo1 said: Plenty of the grains used as spawn have no hull.
I'm always seeing people using whole grains. But I don't have much experience with other grains, so I might be wrong.
Do you're own research. People have been using wbs for years there are plenty of grains in wbs with no hull. For some reason you are making the assumption that a hull will keep grains from being sticky. If you prep the grain wrong it can become sticky hull or no hull. You agree with me. Then say prove you wrong as of I had made two different statements in the first part of that reply. Grains shouldn't be sticky if prepared correctly. One statement. Not specific to oats. Why would I have to prove something you agree with do you need me to link you a wbs grow?
I've used wheat with no hull. I've used rye with no hull. Millet no hull. Milo no hull. Lmao nevermind I'm done here you sir are acting.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: gizmo1]
#26568747 - 03/31/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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https://www.123rf.com/photo_98976831_stock-vector-grain-anatomical-layers-vector-illustration-diagram-with-bran-endosperm-germ-and-hull-biology-scienc.html
If the grain has the endosperm exposed, you have a mess. Processed grain like steel cut oats (as originally asked, he said nothing about WBS or BRF teks) have the endosperm completely exposed.
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Smartattack said: We are not parroting anything. Its because its obvious. Cooking a pot of hulled oats is like cooking a pot of jasmine rice. What do you get once the water is absorbed? a mass of shit stuck together. With hulls in place the sticky inner meat is contained within the hull. Not sure how to make that easier to grasp.
Have you ever prepped hulled oats? Sounds like you are speaking from first hand knowledge. I haven't. Don't have access to them. I almost guarantee if you send me some I can prep them so they aren't sticky. Then again I don't need a crutch like a hull to prep grains. The hull is also what makes oats a shitty grain. Makes it hard to identify contamination and also hull intact grains will harbor more bacteria.
I removed the stuff about brf but you did bring up rice. It's is used as as spawn and has no hull even if it makes shit spawn.
It's obvious oatmeal doesn't work. Oats intact lacking a hull in theory should work just fine if you know how to prep grain.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: gizmo1]
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Smartattack said: We are not parroting anything. Its because its obvious. Cooking a pot of hulled oats is like cooking a pot of jasmine rice. What do you get once the water is absorbed? a mass of shit stuck together. With hulls in place the sticky inner meat is contained within the hull. Not sure how to make that easier to grasp.
Have you ever prepped hulled oats? Sounds like you are speaking from first hand knowledge. I haven't. Don't have access to them. I almost guarantee if you send me some I can prep them so they aren't sticky. Then again I don't need a crutch like a hull to prep grains. The hull is also what makes oats a shitty grain. Makes it hard to identify contamination and also hull intact grains will harbor more bacteria.
I removed the stuff about brf but you did bring up rice. It's is used as as spawn and has no hull even if it makes shit spawn.
It's obvious oatmeal doesn't work. Oats intact lacking a hull in theory should work just fine if you know how to prep grain.
I have not, but given that avoiding burst grain is one of the objectives in grain prep to avoid a mess i see no reason to make it more likely. Also if you are going to flex about being good at prepping grain, then you should say nothing about oats being shitty or more likely to contaminate. Many of us use them and even prefer them and don't have issues that are grain related.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: gizmo1]
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gizmo1 said: Have you ever prepped hulled oats? Sounds like you are speaking from first hand knowledge. I haven't. Don't have access to them. I almost guarantee if you send me some I can prep them so they aren't sticky.
I think the burden of proof is on you here. I am again gladly inviting you to show me just 1 successful grow with hulled oats. There's successful grows with whole oats posted on here all the time.
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gizmo1 said: Then again I don't need a crutch like a hull to prep grains. The hull is also what makes oats a shitty grain. Makes it hard to identify contamination and also hull intact grains will harbor more bacteria.
So, do you know how to prep grains or not? Because if you do, your grains will harbour zero bacteria or spores. Don't blame the grain for your shitty techniques.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: poisoned]
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gizmo1 said: Have you ever prepped hulled oats? Sounds like you are speaking from first hand knowledge. I haven't. Don't have access to them. I almost guarantee if you send me some I can prep them so they aren't sticky.
I think the burden of proof is on you here. I am again gladly inviting you to show me just 1 successful grow with hulled oats. There's successful grows with whole oats posted on here all the time.
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gizmo1 said: Then again I don't need a crutch like a hull to prep grains. The hull is also what makes oats a shitty grain. Makes it hard to identify contamination and also hull intact grains will harbor more bacteria.
So, do you know how to prep grains or not? Because if you do, your grains will harbour zero bacteria or spores. Don't blame the grain for your shitty techniques.
I was avoiding saying it quite like that but my thoughts are echoed in there.
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Smartattack said: We are not parroting anything. Its because its obvious. Cooking a pot of hulled oats is like cooking a pot of jasmine rice. What do you get once the water is absorbed? a mass of shit stuck together. With hulls in place the sticky inner meat is contained within the hull. Not sure how to make that easier to grasp.
Have you ever prepped hulled oats? Sounds like you are speaking from first hand knowledge. I haven't. Don't have access to them. I almost guarantee if you send me some I can prep them so they aren't sticky. Then again I don't need a crutch like a hull to prep grains. The hull is also what makes oats a shitty grain. Makes it hard to identify contamination and also hull intact grains will harbor more bacteria.
I removed the stuff about brf but you did bring up rice. It's is used as as spawn and has no hull even if it makes shit spawn.
It's obvious oatmeal doesn't work. Oats intact lacking a hull in theory should work just fine if you know how to prep grain.
I have not, but given that avoiding burst grain is one of the objectives in grain prep to avoid a mess i see no reason to make it more likely. Also if you are going to flex about being good at prepping grain, then you should say nothing about oats being shitty or more likely to contaminate. Many of us use them and even prefer them and don't have issues that are grain related.
Just stating facts not trying to flex on anyone here but also who are you to tell me what I should or shouldn't be saying? I'll avoid the fact that you falsely accused me of claiming that they are more likely to contaminate. You must have been confused by when I said they are harder to identify contamination on.
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"hull intact grains will harbor more bacteria."
You literally said that....
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: gizmo1]
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You said it here:
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: poisoned]
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gizmo1 said: Have you ever prepped hulled oats? Sounds like you are speaking from first hand knowledge. I haven't. Don't have access to them. I almost guarantee if you send me some I can prep them so they aren't sticky.
I think the burden of proof is on you here. I am again gladly inviting you to show me just 1 successful grow with hulled oats. There's successful grows with whole oats posted on here all the time.
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gizmo1 said: Then again I don't need a crutch like a hull to prep grains. The hull is also what makes oats a shitty grain. Makes it hard to identify contamination and also hull intact grains will harbor more bacteria.
So, do you know how to prep grains or not? Because if you do, your grains will harbour zero bacteria or spores. Don't blame the grain for your shitty techniques.
Grain prep and sterilization are two separate things sorry if you are confused about that also you are assuming once again that I was defending hulled oats when I never did I am talking about grains in general I can still link you a successful wbs grow though no problem. I have no burden to prove or disprove any assumption you make. Did I say " you are wrong hulled oats 100% will work" no I said if you prep grains right they shouldn't be sticky. Yet here you are asking me for proof of a successful grow with oat groats. I hate that I really had to explain that though. Seems common sense is not so common at all. Also so rather I can or can not prep grains makes a difference in endospore load of grains? Wow that's a whole lot of stupidity.
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You literally said that....
They do. Pretty big jump to me staying that they are more prone to contamination. I nevet said that. They have a higher endospore load than grains without hulls. That's is all. Since what we do is not true sterilization it makes it one of those why even bother with them situations. That indeed has nothing to do with prep though. If either of you would like to discuss this further please feel free to pm me and I can clarify.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: gizmo1]
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gizmo1 said: Did I say " you are wrong hulled oats 100% will work" no I said if you prep grains right they shouldn't be sticky. Yet here you are asking me for proof of a successful grow with oat groats.
Did you check the title of this thread? We're clearly talking about oats. And WBS that they sell here doesn't have any hulled grain, not sure what's sold as WBS elsewhere.
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gizmo1 said: They have a higher endospore load than grains without hulls. That's is all. Since what we do is not true sterilization it makes it one of those why even bother with them situations. That indeed has nothing to do with prep though. If either of you would like to discuss this further please feel free to pm me and I can clarify.
Sorry, but for me prep is the whole way from grain to jars ready for inoculation. Anyways, I definitely do sterilise my grain. I've had some unmodified jars standing on the shelf for months and they were good as new.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: gizmo1]
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Oh c'mon man! for christ's sake. Dont pull that garb, we all use the word prep when talking about all aspects of grain work prior to inoculation.
And why are you even bringing up the endospore load if you don't mean to suggest more likely contamination? Was that just rhetoric then? If so why? You're saying on one hand it's a thing, then saying that said thing doesn't matter? I'm confused.
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So I have used rolled oats. It's just harder to work with some types of grains that others. I'm doing Safflower seed, it has the hull intact. No problems there.
I'm actually not even sure what the argument is above me, but OP: use what ever you want. Some oats are easier to use than others. Whole oats are the easiest. There are no grains that won't work given the right condition.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: gizmo1]
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Well this thread escalated quickly. Since the people saying hulled oats won't work haven't actually tried to prep them, I see no reason to discuss this further. I will just have to find out by myself.
Bod did indicate early in this thread that hulled oats would work, just not with his tek.... and smart said that over processed will make them sticky, so I got that to work off of when I do my own hulled oats to prove it to you guys (whether it works or not). I will post my results here in this thread.
I wasn't trying to reinvent the wheel. I love my whole race oats. I just wanted to help OP and anyone like him (if he truly can get hulled oats cheaper and wasn't mistaken. I understand price anomalies happen sometimes in certain areas. Here in the midwest, premium gas is cheaper than regular unleaded because of all the corn grown for ethanol around here.).
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Agreed. My apologies for my part in escalating OP's thread into a "grainwreck"
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: poisoned]
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And why are you even bringing up the endospore load if you don't mean to suggest more likely contamination? Was that just rhetoric then? If so why? You're saying on one hand it's a thing, then saying that said thing doesn't matter? I'm confused.
Did I ever say it didn't matter so said it's one of those why bother situations. If you could read correctly instead of saying thinks to try and.make the discussion go in your favor maybe you would know what so said.
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natedawgnow said: Not necessarily true at all. We sterilize to ~99.99% since sterilization is technically defined by a limit, meaning you never truly reach 100% sterile. If you have 10,000,000 spores and .01% live you still have 100,000 spores that could possibly germ.
The more spores your grain starts with, the more spores that survive sterilization.
Now that doesn't mean they are guaranteed to germ, and in fact may have been damaged enough not to germ, but why take the chance when there are grains that are just as cheap and work better without a finicky prep?
Also when I say they are two different things I say that in order to show which part of the process I am talking about. Even though I have never considered them the same process. I call prep prep and sterilization sterilization. If you consider them the same then we can discuss it from that point of view but I am talking about the first part of "prep" in this case. It makes no difference to my argument it just makes your point trying to discredit my argument invalid.
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natedawgnow said: Not necessarily true at all. We sterilize to ~99.99% since sterilization is technically defined by a limit, meaning you never truly reach 100% sterile. If you have 10,000,000 spores and .01% live you still have 100,000 spores that could possibly germ.
The more spores your grain starts with, the more spores that survive sterilization.
Now that doesn't mean they are guaranteed to germ, and in fact may have been damaged enough not to germ, but why take the chance when there are grains that are just as cheap and work better without a finicky prep?
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gizmo1 said: Did I say " you are wrong hulled oats 100% will work" no I said if you prep grains right they shouldn't be sticky. Yet here you are asking me for proof of a successful grow with oat groats.
Did you check the title of this thread? We're clearly talking about oats. And WBS that they sell here doesn't have any hulled grain, not sure what's sold as WBS elsewhere.
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gizmo1 said: They have a higher endospore load than grains without hulls. That's is all. Since what we do is not true sterilization it makes it one of those why even bother with them situations. That indeed has nothing to do with prep though. If either of you would like to discuss this further please feel free to pm me and I can clarify.
Sorry, but for me prep is the whole way from grain to jars ready for inoculation. Anyways, I definitely do sterilise my grain. I've had some unmodified jars standing on the shelf for months and they were good as new.
Yes indeed. It is a thread about hulled oats and our discussion at least from my view was about grains that have no hull. This does also got into the thread discussion it doesn't mean I have to be defending oat groats. Besides if I say I'm not talking about them shouldn't that override what you think I'm talking about? I've stated it twice already and explained it once if you would like to discuss it further please feel free to PM me.
Wbs isn't hulled grains. That would infer that they had a hull to begin with. This is why I said grains with no hull. Not hulled grains. I can't generalize all wbs because wbs refers to a mixture of grains for wild birds. There are different mixes. Most have main ingredients of Milo and millet. Looking at these 2 grains I see no hull. Just a hard shelled seed. I like how you used careful wording to make it look like I'm wrong though. Almost smart of you.
Long story short. Use whatever grain you want. Just don't assume that a grain with no hull or even hulled grains won't work. I've used hulled barley plenty of times as well as barley with the hull intact they both work rather or not the hull is there makes no difference. I'm sure it doesn't with oats either. If either of you wants to send me oats grows I can prep them and we can see if they work or not. I'd go out and buy some of they were available here.
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One of Us said: Well this thread escalated quickly. Since the people saying hulled oats won't work haven't actually tried to prep them, I see no reason to discuss this further. I will just have to find out by myself.
Bod did indicate early in this thread that hulled oats would work, just not with his tek.... and smart said that over processed will make them sticky, so I got that to work off of when I do my own hulled oats to prove it to you guys (whether it works or not). I will post my results here in this thread.
I wasn't trying to reinvent the wheel. I love my whole race oats. I just wanted to help OP and anyone like him (if he truly can get hulled oats cheaper and wasn't mistaken. I understand price anomalies happen sometimes in certain areas. Here in the midwest, premium gas is cheaper than regular unleaded because of all the corn grown for ethanol around here.).
Lmao. Yup.
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Smartattack said: Agreed. My apologies for my part in escalating OP's thread into a "grainwreck"
At least we stayed mostly on the topic of grains lmao. I've seen threads get pretty far off track. I usually post mainly in vult gen discussion so I'm used to being on topic as long as it's somehow related to cult. I must have forgotten where I was.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: gizmo1]
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Whether or not we have the virus, I'm sure most of us have some form of sickness from corona as well. And at the end of the day we can reflect on the fact that we passionately argued about the shit that covers the center of a seed.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: gizmo1]
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So there's your answer. Whole oats - universal agreement that this works. Hulled oats - not so much. You can experiment or go with a proven solution that is not any harder.
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Smartattack said: Whether or not we have the virus, I'm sure most of us have some form of sickness from corona as well. And at the end of the day we can reflect on the fact that we passionately argued about the shit that covers the center of a seed.
Lmao.
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Now were getting to the bottom of things. Lol
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Had to come back to say one last thing sorry for bumping this thread again bit poisoned sorry I tried insulted your intelligence that was completely uncalled for I'm a fucking dick. Was just thinking about it and that was a asshole move.
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: gizmo1]
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All good man, it was a nice pissing contest
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Re: What kind of whole oats [Re: poisoned]
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Dont wanna make a new thread but I will prepare hulled oats today.
Ill post the results here afterwards.
Id probably dump it in boiling water for 10mins.
Rinse it out too if its still sticky.
Steam evaporate. And then load in jars.
I ALWAYS GO FOR WHOLE OATS but today, I cant find whole oats in 3 shops I went to. I shouldve probably go for mixed birdseeds but decided to go for hulled oats.
It would probably work.
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So did it turn out fine?
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