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Mushroomsee
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Problem with my bulk substate, damon5050tek
#26565091 - 03/29/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hello again friends, as many know I am doing my first monotube. And today it was time to pour my spawn bags into bulk.
My spawn bags were 100% colonized and smelled like fresh shrooms.
My bulk consisted of 1 block of 650g coco coir and 2 quarts of verm.
Here comes the problem. I made 2 monotubes. In the first monotube, I poured 4 quarts of water together with coco coir and verm. But when the heat went down and I would fill the monotube, the substate was overly wet, more than field capacity. When I pressed hard with my hands, water ran out. Not just some singel drops. I thought I can't do anything about it so I test using it anyway. So I added my 5 quarts rye spawn bags and was then done. My question is, will this monotube work? Will my 5 quarts rye spawn maybe suck in the water?
In monotube number 2 I lowered to about 3.6 quarts of water instead but even then it was too wet. So I took my hands and squeezed the water out of the entire bulk substrate and then applied it to the monotube at field capacity (I think).
Could it be that I only need 3 quarts of water instead of 4-5 quarts as Damon5050 tek says? Is my coco coir bad?
Also, when I mixed my spawn bags with the bulk substate it looked like it was more spawn than the bulk substate. Or maybe just as much of both. Should it be so? After that I covered with some casing from the bulk substate.
PS, now after only a few hours after my first monotube was set up (the wet), condensation is already starting to take place. Is this a problem? Any tips on saving it?
Thanks alot for your help guys
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Re: Problem with my bulk substate, damon5050tek [Re: Mushroomsee]
#26565180 - 03/29/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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condensation itself isn’t a problem, it really only means there’s a difference in temperature between the inside & outside of the tub. but i’d venture to guess the tub that is too wet isn’t going to perform well, if it performs at all. i find i need less water than the recipe typically calls for too. i usually just squeeze what i’m putting in to field capacity if it feels too wet
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Re: Problem with my bulk substate, damon5050tek [Re: hazyhorse]
#26565244 - 03/29/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Can you post some pictures? With 5 qt of healthy spawn in that tub I would find a way to press some of the water out or something. But maybe it’s not as bad as you think so post some clear pics if you can
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Re: Problem with my bulk substate, damon5050tek [Re: Roger Clemency]
#26565281 - 03/29/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I use 4qts water with my bricks and verm, it squeezes out a little squirt then drips. I've never had a problem with it. The condensation and raining inside the tote is ok and normal. It's also ok if you have a 1:1 ratio mix of spawn and coir I've done it and 1:2 ratios using more coir. Long as your jars were on point it will probably be alright. You're locked in and can't do anything but wait and watch, set it and forget it
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Re: Problem with my bulk substate, damon5050tek [Re: hazyhorse]
#26565332 - 03/29/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Does this tek have lots of known problems like this? I used this tek before, and my tubs never took off. I thought it was something to do with my spawn, yet it smelled like fresh mushrooms and everything. My tub sat there for one week nothing happening. Is this because it was too wet? Does this tek have over hydration and over field capacity issues? Now I'm thinking back to it, and my tub never took off, and I had to end up throwing it out...
Edited by psycho_nauticus (03/29/20 02:19 PM)
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