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OfflineRevelation88
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Why am I angry
    #26564463 - 03/29/20 02:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

This really has nothing to do with psychedelics. I come to this forum because I understand how psychedelics open the mind and allow people to shift perspective more fluidly.
I've learned that resources are a means of exposure. If I get more money or power or any resource it serves as a means for my intentions to flow. With that being said I see a lot of anger manifesting from me through particular resources. I'm super toxic playing online games for example.
I don't like this aspect ofyself because I feel the more I acquire resources the more this facet of my personality will be exposed. I don't want to be angry. I don't like the decisions that I make from that perspective. 
With that being said I feel like I have a ton to be happy about. I'm in a better place in life than I could ever imagine being. Does anyone else recognise this in themselves? Does anyone have any insight to the root and how to abolish it?


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Re: Why am I angry [Re: Revelation88]
    #26564478 - 03/29/20 03:35 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Revelation88 said:
This really has nothing to do with psychedelics. I come to this forum because I understand how psychedelics open the mind and allow people to shift perspective more fluidly.
I've learned that resources are a means of exposure. If I get more money or power or any resource it serves as a means for my intentions to flow. With that being said I see a lot of anger manifesting from me through particular resources. I'm super toxic playing online games for example.
I don't like this aspect ofyself because I feel the more I acquire resources the more this facet of my personality will be exposed. I don't want to be angry. I don't like the decisions that I make from that perspective. 
With that being said I feel like I have a ton to be happy about. I'm in a better place in life than I could ever imagine being. Does anyone else recognise this in themselves? Does anyone have any insight to the root and how to abolish it?




I think I’ve been angry since birth, nd have been aware for over 20 years, now 53. Even working with the mushrooms, nd integrating the lessons they teach me, I think I’m genetically wired to be angry. My daughter is exactly the same, nd it drives me nuts! I once was sent to a therapist for depression, nd he told me it was my anger that was the cause of my depression. Never got my head around that one.

These days, thanks to support from many places including here, and the mushrooms, i am no longer depressed; but the anger is still there and I have to maintain constant discipline to not let it surface. But it only takes something nd nothing to bring it out; the other week travelling home after a week at work, buzzing with excitement, walked through front door and lost the plot because there was no wine. Woke up next day really depressed. Took mushrooms that night and sorted myself,out.

No it really gets to me that even though I’m aware of my genetics, I sometimes still can’t control it....


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Re: Why am I angry [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26564492 - 03/29/20 04:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That's hard for me to digest. I'm not in love with the thought that i could potentially just have to love with it for the rest of my life but I do appreciate your feedback and hope that you can find a peace in your life that isn't shaken


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Re: Why am I angry [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26564495 - 03/29/20 04:14 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Anger is a tough one sometimes. Just in short, there are many sources for anger and many forms of this emotion ranging from mildly annoyed of others to full on hate and rage-like aggression. Aggression is a primal feeling aimed at defending oneself, but the other feelings that may feel similar physically might have very different reasons for them. For example, jealousy makes people angry towards others, hateful, and that is a tricky one to spot until you realise that jealousness. Sometimes events piss us off because they don't fit into our conception of how things should be. Sometimes we may not like something about ourselves and project it unto others. In case of videogames, I find that I get mad often for the reason that I can't control the other people in the game and I try to do it through expressing my anger or hate of them. I think in those situations I am simultaneously expressing my own frustration, because when you realise that you can only control yourself there is no reason to be mad at the other person.

Anyways, I think you can get the answer you want to if you ask for it.


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Re: Why am I angry [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26564503 - 03/29/20 04:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Your right I do understand the source but how do I control it? I don't want to just stuff it or pretend I don't feel that way as much as I rather build a perspective that doesn't allow that to manifest.


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    #26564505 - 03/29/20 04:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Why am I angry [Re: Bedgus]
    #26564543 - 03/29/20 05:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Interesting responses, thank you. Now that I have become aware of my moods,,and how that affects people around me, I have become much better at managing it. My outbursts are down to a frequency of approximately 3 months, whereas they used to be multiple times a day!

I believe it has taken me returning to mushrooms and just going with the flow of trips, to really understand what makes me tick, and how that impacts the world around me. I reckon up until 6 months ago, I could have been described as a narcissist. And a big part of my frustrations over the years have not been jealousy, but two things: people’s blatant disregard for anything I have to say, and the total injustice in today’s society. What I have learned has allowed me to come off SSRI medication, and treat myself much more effectively with psilocybin.

I have been a regular smoker of cannabis for about 30 years, which does also seemed to have helped with the anger, but not necessarily with the depression....

Mush love
DJ Ed


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Michael Pollan: How To Change Your Mind

“The problem is not to find the answer, it’s to face the answer.”
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Re: Why am I angry [Re: DJ Ed] * 1
    #26565731 - 03/29/20 05:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

One thing I learned in a group therapy setting was that anger is often a reaction to some other emotion, it’s not the emotion your actually experiencing at the time.

It really hit home for me, peel back the “why” and you can better come to grips with your reactions.


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Re: Why am I angry [Re: SynKyd]
    #26566315 - 03/30/20 12:40 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, going one step further, i do believe my negativity comes from the feeling I am not loved, by family, by friends, by work colleagues. So my whole life has been spent trying to impress other people, which then makes me angry, because I feel I’ve let myself down. As I get older, and more experienced with mushrooms, I feel less emotional need to seek justification from other people. Initially I think this increase my anger, but continued discipline, and listening to myself during trips, has really helped me sort out my reptilian brain.....


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“It’s like when you see a mountain lion,” he suggested. “If you run, it will chase you. So you must stand your ground.”
Michael Pollan: How To Change Your Mind

“The problem is not to find the answer, it’s to face the answer.”
Terence McKenna



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Re: Why am I angry [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26566386 - 03/30/20 01:42 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The times in my life where I've been prone to anger are the same times that I've been upset with life in general. I can frustrated quickly, I think that's genetic (my dad is the same). But in knowing myself and becoming a happier person in general, I can wait out the 5-30 seconds of anger and make a decision afterwards.

Counter strike still fuckin pisses me off tho lol, i think online games do that to everyone :smile:


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Re: Why am I angry [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26566413 - 03/30/20 02:20 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I think a lot of anger stems from frustration. A lot of times the anger appears when many smaller frustrations are piling on top of each other and compound with each additional issue.

That's why if you listen real close when people blow up- there's a lot of shit that comes out. Some of the issues are even probably unrelated which makes anger outbursts seem even more outbursty, but really it's just a balloon full of little bullshit all mixed together that needs a bunch of tiny resolutions.

Fix all the little annoying bullshit around you as a starting point. If you've had negative thoughts about the same thing multiple times, fix it. Whatever it is. Address it, all of it.

And stay busy working on something that will take a long time to achieve. Always have a big project going on in the background. Something you build or develop incrementally. It sets up a constant problem/challenge and reward loop that keeps you looking forward to and accomplishing things. It is the void video games tries to fill but doesn't because there are no tangible rewards to video game achievements.

Some people have a family, start a business whatever. Just has to be a big project that takes a long time. Build a sailboat, build a house, write a book, whatever. And keep working on it.

And make sure you don't have any clogged pipes. Meaning you have things to say to people but aren't saying it. That alone can blow a man's head off over time.

I find myself getting less angry as I get older and learn more. Psychedelics definitely helped to get my brain moving but aren't like a medicine or cure for anger. I kinda feel like they're just a key to unlocking more mindfulness in general.

Stay cool bro.


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