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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
    #26563806 - 03/28/20 05:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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US has topped 500 deaths already today. It’s gonna be a bloodbath by this time next week



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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26563809 - 03/28/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Women have a natural tolerance to the Coronavirus?

Very interesting :takingnotes:



Yeah it's scary but interesting here's an article on it https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2020/03/19/coronavirus-kills-more-men-than-women/

With over 200,000 coronavirus cases worldwide and thousands of deaths, a striking pattern is appearing in the hardest-hit countries: more men are dying than women.

Nowhere is this trend more pronounced than in Italy. Men make up nearly 60 percent of people with confirmed cases of the virus and more than 70 percent of those who have died of covid-19, according to the country’s main public health research agency.

The alarming Italy data have caught the attention of the White House. Ambassador Deborah Birx, the White House’s coronavirus response coordinator, warned Friday that “from Italy we’re seeing another concerning trend, that the mortality in males seem to be twice in every age group of females. This should alert all of us to continue our vigilance to protect Americans who are in nursing homes.”


On the other end of the spectrum is South Korea, where about 61 percent of confirmed infections have been in women. Though far fewer patients have died, the majority of fatalities — 54 percent —- were again men.

As the pandemic escalates, epidemiologists and public health authorities are scrambling to understand who is most vulnerable and how to protect them. The data from countries such as Italy and South Korea show that the disease can take wildly different paths.

Exactly what makes a group vulnerable — and how to protect them — has experts “mystified,” said Carlos del Rio, chair of the department of global health at Emory University. “This difference in mortality is creating a lot of anxiety,” he added.

The gender disparity in illness and death is harder to explain. Even before the covid-19 pandemic reached Italy, early reports out of China suggested men were especially at risk. A study of 99 patients at a hospital in Wuhan, where the virus originated, found that men made up two-thirds of patients, and half of all the people who were hospitalized had chronic conditions such as heart disease or diabetes. More recent figures from China’s Center for Disease Control, based on tens of thousands of cases, showed a strong gender breakdown of deaths, which were 64 percent male.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26563811 - 03/28/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods] * 1
    #26563812 - 03/28/20 05:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I thought they had to paralyze your muscles to ventilate



Oh yeah you generally get rocuronium (but definitely some kind of NMB) as well where I'm at. I thought you were talking about the sedation protocol. but I dont think it paralyzes your eyes. And keeping these drugs at optimal levels varies a lot from patient to patient. We are not anesthesiologists but in the ER the doc literally writes a script for a flow rate and gives orders for bolus doses as needed so in effect we end up functioning as low level anesthiologists and were not as good at it. I'm sure they do a better job of keeping people sedated in surgery but dammit we do our best. Gets busy sometimes. Not right now though. All the street fentanyl must have run out cuz nobody seems to be ODing anymore


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26563815 - 03/28/20 05:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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US has topped 500 deaths already today. It’s gonna be a bloodbath by this time next week



Cdc says




The CDC doesn’t even update their numbers on the weekend 🤦‍♂️


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods] * 2
    #26563819 - 03/28/20 05:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods] * 2
    #26563825 - 03/28/20 05:49 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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koods said:
US has topped 500 deaths already today. It’s gonna be a bloodbath by this time next week



Cdc says




The CDC doesn’t even update their numbers on the weekend 🤦‍♂️




Unfortunately I think the CDC is not a reliable resource under the Trump administration. This is true for most science resources under trump. There’s a lot of political influence on data sharing with the public.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #26563831 - 03/28/20 05:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I thought they had to paralyze your muscles to ventilate



Oh yeah you generally get rocuronium (but definitely some kind of NMB) as well where I'm at. I thought you were talking about the sedation protocol. but I dont think it paralyzes your eyes. And keeping these drugs at optimal levels varies a lot from patient to patient. We are not anesthesiologists but in the ER the doc literally writes a script for a flow rate and gives orders for bolus doses as needed so in effect we end up functioning as low level anesthiologists and were not as good at it. I'm sure they do a better job of keeping people sedated in surgery but dammit we do our best. Gets busy sometimes. Not right now though. All the street fentanyl must have run out cuz nobody seems to be ODing anymore




Chloroquine OD is the new Fentanyl OD


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
    #26563845 - 03/28/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I cant believe Italy almost has as much as the US. Very different sized countries. Whoa!


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26563846 - 03/28/20 05:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I cant believe Italy almost has as much as the US. Very different sized countries. Whoa!





That looks very shitty for the US, doesn't it?

You're going to have a whole lot of Italies.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Unreal Numbers [Re: Asante]
    #26563848 - 03/28/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Will the US be like 2x Italy? Or maybe even 10x Italy? :omgz:


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26563851 - 03/28/20 06:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Chloroquine OD is the new Fentanyl OD


no faster way to piss off a nurse right now than to take up a hospital bed in a code black situation by overdosing on the medications being used to treat the disease that is causing the code black


other fun fact: occasionally EMTs have to intubate (they're technically not supposed to according to national standards but... it happens) and they sedate with ketamine


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Unreal Numbers [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 3
    #26563854 - 03/28/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

NYC is already Italy.

This American Life today was really depressing. Story of two healthcare workers the wife was sick the husband had to go to work, when he got home she was dead.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Unreal Numbers [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26563855 - 03/28/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You have 5.5x the residenta and Italy hasnt peaked yet.

It all seemed very academic in Holland too but tomorrow we cross the 10,000 while being 1/4 the size of Italy.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Unreal Numbers [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26563859 - 03/28/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Damn, Holland's getting hit hard too huh?

Just did the math, Italy has an over 10% death-rate. YIKES! Poor Italy.....


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koods]
    #26563863 - 03/28/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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koods said:
US has topped 500 deaths already today. It’s gonna be a bloodbath by this time next week



Cdc says




The CDC doesn’t even update their numbers on the weekend 🤦‍♂️




Unfortunately I think the CDC is not a reliable resource under the Trump administration. This is true for most science resources under trump. There’s a lot of political influence on data sharing with the public.



That is unfortunate. At least they flat out tell you to trust individual state data over theirs :shrug:


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Unreal Numbers [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26563864 - 03/28/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Unreal Numbers [Re: koods] * 1
    #26563868 - 03/28/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Fuckin New York. Just shows how mobile people are on the East Coast. Very Mobile as you can see.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted] * 2
    #26563875 - 03/28/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I woke up on Propofol during my colonoscopy. :eek:


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Unreal Numbers [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26563878 - 03/28/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The U.K. backed off on herd immunity. To beat COVID-19, we’ll ultimately need it.

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Four other coronaviruses already circulate among humans, says Gaunt, and they all cause the common cold, since we don’t stay immune to those viruses for very long. If the novel coronavirus is similar, that means that people would need to be repeatedly vaccinated or infected for herd immunity to be sustained.

Some reports describe reinfections of the novel coronavirus in people who tested positive again after they had already recovered. It’s not clear, though, that these are actually cases of reinfection—it’s more likely that they can be explained by people continuing to shed the virus for a long time, and that the level of virus shedding fluctuates over time.

Rapid reinfection is, for now, “an outside possibility,” Abbate agrees. If people were able to get sick again really quickly, we wouldn’t see the rapid decline in case numbers that is happening in certain parts of the world. And it would go against almost every other virus that we’ve known about, she says.

Even if a successful vaccine is developed, there will always be a small proportion of people who are vaccinated but don’t develop immunity. And if immunity to this new coronavirus is short-lived and needs repeated vaccination, that would present some extra logistical challenges, Grad adds.

In the meantime, the best policy for controlling the spread of the coronavirus is social distancing, which is why many medical professionals were relieved when the U.K. government rapidly changed its strategy.

"We were expecting herd immunity to build,” Azra Ghani, an infectious disease researcher at Imperial College London, said in a press briefing on March 16. “We now realize it’s not possible to cope with that.





Bit of a misleading title given the way the article concludes


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