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Offlinegreenthumbin22
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need help for my loph
    #26563841 - 03/28/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

not really sure how to help my loph out. ive had it in my grow tent and its under an led light. temp around 68 degrees and humidity around 50%. it is winter where im at so just figured it was wrinkled because of that, but now its starting to develop this yellow/brown spot. whats wrong with it and what should i do?? thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: need help for my loph [Re: greenthumbin22]
    #26563989 - 03/28/20 07:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Is that spot soft? Has the soil been kept dry during the dormant season?


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Re: need help for my loph [Re: NagsHead]
    #26564065 - 03/28/20 07:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

the whole cacti is soft and wrinkled, and yea ive kept it dry since its looked like this since back when the fall started. the yellow spot i want to say started to show up in the past couple of weeks.


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Re: need help for my loph [Re: greenthumbin22]
    #26564084 - 03/28/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I am a loph noob, but honestly it looks under watered :shrug:
If it had a fungus/root rot it would have showed up before the period of drought.
Maybe a glare hit that spot?

I suppose an option would be to up root it, inspect the root system(surgery if needed), wait for it to callus over an repot.
or
Water it

Sorry i'm not much help, wait for others to chime in. Good luck. Welcome to the shroomery.


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Re: need help for my loph [Re: bw86]
    #26564132 - 03/28/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

maybe it could be underwatered?? i havent watered it much at all since its winter but then again its my tent so it shouldnt matter?? i was thinking of watering it and maybe putting it in a humidity dome and see if that plumps it up.. i really dont know about that yellow spot tho😔 thanks for youre input tho.


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Re: need help for my loph [Re: greenthumbin22]
    #26564603 - 03/29/20 06:45 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I used to grow these, and I watered mine quite often.

Contrary to what people say, they can handle moderate amounts of water, and even full sun.

I would feed it a light dose of fertilizer, and watch it plump back up :thumbup:

That yellow looks like sunburn or to much light.


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Re: need help for my loph [Re: Allium]
    #26565975 - 03/29/20 07:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

hmmm, interesting. i thought if they get too much sun or get burned they turn red. it really doesnt look like a spot that will rot, it actually almost looks more crispy so maybe it could be that. im also afraid to fertilize it because the last time i did that was when it was grafted and the skin cracked and split all over. if i were to do that how much and of what kind should i give it?? i think ill try to keep watering it when the soil/sand gets dry. if that doesnt work then maybe ill try putting in in a dome to increase humidity and see if that helps. i really do appreciate all the input from everyone and ill keep you guys updated as to what happens.


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Re: need help for my loph [Re: greenthumbin22] * 1
    #26566585 - 03/30/20 05:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, maybe it's not sunburn.

I never had any problems when I grew mine, so I really don't know what it could be, or what to compare it to.

if you do feed it, you can use something like this, but I wouldn't use a dome on it at all.

Cacti like it dry, not humid.



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Re: need help for my loph [Re: Allium]
    #26567574 - 03/30/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If you keep it indoors, with a light, and the temp is high enough to where the cactus isn't going to go dormant.... How is that winter conditions for the plant?  It appears to be etiolating a bit, and super thirsty.

Those yellow spots aren't encouraging looking, but i would be willing to water it once.  If things get worse than there are, you could still address the issue in time.

I am going to guess that this was found on some auction website and was used to getting watered as often as possible.  Assuming thats correct you basically got a beach ball loph that wasn't hardened off, and yea its going to take time to acclimate to lower watering schedules.  In comparison I barely water my plants, and even when i cut a pup off and put it on a shelf to callous, it barely shrivels after MONTHS of not having any roots at all.


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Cacti like it dry, not humid.





Even tropical cacti?


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Re: need help for my loph [Re: POWAtrippin]
    #26567602 - 03/30/20 03:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

During germination, and the seedling stage they love it.

But, I wouldn't grow a mature Lophophora with a humidity dome ever.

Although Loph's grow in a tropical environment temp wise, the air is still dry desert air.


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Re: need help for my loph [Re: Allium]
    #26567682 - 03/30/20 04:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

A desert is defined by a lack of precipitation, not a lack of humidity.


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Re: need help for my loph [Re: POWAtrippin]
    #26567804 - 03/30/20 05:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I have never seen a humid desert though, except for when it rains.

" Deserts cover 20 percent of the earth's surface yet are the driest regions in the world. Their lack of humidity is particularly striking because hot areas can hold so much moisture "

"Deserts are prone to having long periods of little to no rain before receiving short bursts of precipitation, but the amount of humidity that does enter the air is rare. The desert air is so dry that the rate of evaporation regularly exceeds the rainfall rate, and the rainfall may even evaporate before it hits the ground"

"The scant desert humidity that exists in the air is unable to block the sun's rays, so the amount of solar radiation that deserts receive can reach twice the amount of humid regions"

"Desert conditions are also exacerbated by the fact that desert organisms respond to the low humidity by preserving as much water as they can without losing it to evaporation. Many desert plants have evolved a waxy structure called a cuticle that can keep water inside. Small leaves and white hairs that reflect heat may also be strategies for dealing with desert conditions"


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Re: need help for my loph [Re: Allium]
    #26567910 - 03/30/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I am literally looking at winter (dry) period humidity in regions that lophs are found endemically.  I see a lot of 50% rH... I don't really consider that dry, and if thats dry season...

If high humidity was an issue, i severely doubt Kada would have had as much success growing all those cacti in thailand.

Your enemy is prolonged periods of cold and wet conditions on the subterranean root and stem, in my experience.  Humidity won't promote rot unless you take it to a very extreme level.

I wish modern.shaman was here to chime in about his patio grow in florida.


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Re: need help for my loph [Re: POWAtrippin]
    #26568019 - 03/30/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not saying that they can't be grown in high humidity, hehe, heck I've grown them here and it's humid as heck!

I just said a humidity dome would be a waste of time, and that the desert regions are typically arid not humid, that's all :cool:

Really no need to argue, they are adaptable to all kinds of conditions.

If he wants to use a humidity dome, then he can.

I just wouldn't is all I'm saying.


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Re: need help for my loph [Re: Allium]
    #26568106 - 03/30/20 08:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Just looks like a cactus thats dehydrated mostly, tho the parts that are drying and callousing on exposed stem.... wtf

Back to my original point, why would a plant think its winter at 68F?  Are you running like 10-14 light schedules? I would wager that it feels like you pulled a fast one on it, if you insist its winter at that temp..

It very well could have been asking for water the whole time.  The only other thing to even consider is massive root death, without you seeing any sign up top.  Usually rotting plants do more than just shrivel ime.


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Re: need help for my loph [Re: POWAtrippin]
    #26568251 - 03/30/20 10:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It definitely looks like it needs water. It also looks like it maybe got over fertilized a little last season. The yellow spot could be from too much light, but could also just be from lack of water.

If it was mine... I would give it some plain water and see what happens. I would try to keep water off the skin for awhile, I wouldn't put a humidity dome over it.


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Re: need help for my loph [Re: hummingbird]
    #26569848 - 03/31/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

wow, thanks for all the replies from everyone. a little more info here, i grew the loph from seed, after about 6 months i jad grafted it and when i originally grafted it i had encased it in a 2 liter pop bottle to help with the success in grafting. it got so big to the point where i had to degraft it and get it to root and after i had let it callus up i placed it on some sand back in the 2 liter dome and since it rooted ive kept it in it ever since. then when i finally took it out of the dome it would shrivel up and anytime i would put it back in the dome it would perk back up. it got to the point where i didnt want it to depend on all the humidity so ive taken it out and let it just try to do its thing. like i said its naturally winter out so figured it was fine that its looked that way but then its dawned on me that being under the light and in a tent with those temps and humidity it really shouldnt look that way. ive just grown even more concerned about those yellow spots. it wasnt always in a tent under an led, i had it under some t5 fluorescent lights, around the same temps etc. and once i moved it into the tent thinking it would help if i changed its enviroment is around the time the yellow spot showed up. i just assumed since in the dome it would perk back up that that would be a good reason to give it a go. for now maybe ill just keep watering and see what happens. I'd really like to just be able to eventually move it outside when the weather gets better. i have a pup from that loph having the same problem. i also have another loph in with them that seems to be fine.


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Re: need help for my loph [Re: greenthumbin22] * 1
    #26569873 - 03/31/20 07:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

here is a picture of the pup thats struggling too.. lohttp://

here is my other loph, seems to be fine. maybe a lil sun scorched im noticing after taking the picture.
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then finally this is a recent graft i just did inside said 2 liter dome
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thanks again everyone, im pretty new here and still dont have a good feel for how to work this site.


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Re: need help for my loph [Re: greenthumbin22]
    #26570009 - 03/31/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Water them, and do it lightly the first time


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Re: need help for my loph [Re: POWAtrippin]
    #26571023 - 04/01/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

i havee once and i just did again after the soil dried. ill keep this thread posted👍 thanks again everyone.


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