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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Data Analysis Edition [Re: HamHead] * 9
    #26563539 - 03/28/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Well it took about 12 days before I finally started to feel genuinely better each day. I've still got some symptoms, but each day things are improving now. Worst days were 4-5 and 8-9. It would seem to get better for a while, then it would get way worse again. But finally around day 12, I started to feel really better each day. I'm still pretty exhausted and my lungs still feel a little fucked up. Apparently this thing can cause scar tissue in your lungs though, so maybe that's just permanent.

This thing just takes forever, and it fools you. You feel like you're improving for a few days and then it gets way worse for no reason. I'm still a little worried that it's going to come roaring back with a vengence, because it did that before. I was feeling pretty good on day 6, then got worse each day on days 7-9. Day 9 was just miserable.

Anyway, stay safe out there guys.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Data Analysis Edition [Re: morrowasted]
    #26563542 - 03/28/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Did you guys get your president trumpy bear coronavirus guidelines postcard?


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Data Analysis Edition [Re: koods] * 1
    #26563544 - 03/28/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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And once you understand that it’s easy to see that the northeastern part of the USA is way more fucked than Italy
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I think this is more accurate


sorry guys in the northeast, truly. my girlfriend's whole family lives in NYC and everyone is really scared. apparently 2 relatives have recovered from COVID19 already though which is promising.

yeah I know cases are rising in NO. I have my doubts

Then again about page 10 of this thread I expressed my doubts that this would be a serious problem outside of china soooooo :rofl:


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Data Analysis Edition [Re: nooneman]
    #26563546 - 03/28/20 03:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Well it took about 12 days before I finally started to feel genuinely better each day. I've still got some symptoms, but each day things are improving now. Worst days were 4-5 and 8-9. It would seem to get better for a while, then it would get way worse again. But finally around day 12, I started to feel really better each day. I'm still pretty exhausted and my lungs still feel a little fucked up. Apparently this thing can cause scar tissue in your lungs though, so maybe that's just permanent.

This thing just takes forever, and it fools you. You feel like you're improving for a few days and then it gets way worse for no reason. I'm still a little worried that it's going to come roaring back with a vengence, because it did that before. I was feeling pretty good on day 6, then got worse each day on days 7-9. Day 9 was just miserable.

Anyway, stay safe out there guys.




Pretty much a nothing burger then 😜


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Data Analysis Edition [Re: koods] * 1
    #26563550 - 03/28/20 03:48 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I don’t think I’ve ever been sick for more than a few days. Two weeks would be fatal I’m a pussy


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Data Analysis Edition [Re: morrowasted]
    #26563555 - 03/28/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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A dark conclusion.


I mean it could also be seen from a glass half full perspective :shrug: But yeah it definitely fucking sucks that so many people have lost their loved ones there, even if most of them would have lost those loved ones within the next couple of years anyway.

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I don’t think I’ve ever been sick for more than a few days. Two weeks would be fatal I’m a pussy




I got the flu once when I was 11 and I was sick as fuck for a week straight. Ever since then I've had maybe 3 24 hour colds and 36hr norovirus (stomach "flu").  2 weeks of being sick just seems absolutely awful


nooneman, how did you treat your symptoms? Out of curiosity, do you have any medical/family history of hypertension or diabetes? what's your diet like? do you eat a lot of onions, garlics, and leeks? take meds? TIA


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Data Analysis Edition [Re: morrowasted]
    #26563557 - 03/28/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

https://www.qeios.com/read/article/550

morrowasted, I remember you saying nicotine upregulated ACE2 receptors.

This paper does not support the claim that current smoking is a risk factor for COVID-19 and it shows that it may be protective based on the prevanlence of smoking among patients being surprisingly low based on the prevalence of smoking in China. It suggests downregulation of ACE2 receptors as a possible explination.

It uses China's data so keep that in mind but it doesnt relate to the amount of total cases, just the prevalence of current smoking based on the cases that are known.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Data Analysis Edition [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #26563559 - 03/28/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Smoking seems to only be a weak comorbidity based on the data I’ve seen


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Data Analysis Edition [Re: koods] * 3
    #26563561 - 03/28/20 03:56 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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the US is way more fucked than Italy





This, so much this.  Honestly, it terrifies me how little you guys seem to be doing about it, or how willing people are to put it down to libs/dems/hoax/flu.

Another 9 days at this rate (and current testing) and you'll hit 1 million cases.  9 days after that you'll be at 10 million.  There's a lag of about 14 days between action (lockdown) and visible reduction in numbers, so in 14 days, from current numbers (120k ish) you'll have 4.2 million cases.

I'll assume current measures are having some effect, so let's say  2.5 Million cases in two weeks.

20% will require hospitalisation, so 250k to 500k
20% of those will require critical care, so 50k to 100k.

I think the US has 125k ventilators available.  Even assuming 30%  current utilisation (I'd expect more), it's pretty likely they'll all be in use in 2 weeks time, with a waiting list people are dying to get to the front of.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Data Analysis Edition [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26563562 - 03/28/20 03:56 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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haha, that's funny as fuck. Its like social isolation makes people wanna go outside and enjoy nature :lol:




Same here. It just had to coincide with the first days of spring after this 3 month autumn we call winter


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Data Analysis Edition [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26563564 - 03/28/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

We’ll be seeing 2000 deaths per day by the end of next week unfortunately


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Data Analysis Edition [Re: nooneman]
    #26563565 - 03/28/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Well it took about 12 days before I finally started to feel genuinely better each day. I've still got some symptoms, but each day things are improving now. Worst days were 4-5 and 8-9. It would seem to get better for a while, then it would get way worse again. But finally around day 12, I started to feel really better each day. I'm still pretty exhausted and my lungs still feel a little fucked up. Apparently this thing can cause scar tissue in your lungs though, so maybe that's just permanent.

This thing just takes forever, and it fools you. You feel like you're improving for a few days and then it gets way worse for no reason. I'm still a little worried that it's going to come roaring back with a vengence, because it did that before. I was feeling pretty good on day 6, then got worse each day on days 7-9. Day 9 was just miserable.

Anyway, stay safe out there guys.




It's good to hear you're over the peak. Out of curiosity, have you lost your sense of taste or coughed until you puked? Back in February I had a 2.5 week brutal illness that caused both. I've had a sneaking suspicion that it was the virus (I was in multiple international airports right before getting sick) and I'm curious to hear if it sounds familiar to you.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Data Analysis Edition [Re: koods]
    #26563571 - 03/28/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Trump is considering banning travel in and out of New Jersey, New York and Connecticut. Should have been done a week ago. He’s still being reactive at best, reacting to news from days ago as opposed to considering what the news will be a week or two from now.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Data Analysis Edition [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #26563576 - 03/28/20 04:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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https://www.qeios.com/read/article/550

morrowasted, I remember you saying nicotine upregulated ACE2 receptors.

This paper does not support the claim that current smoking is a risk factor for COVID-19 and it shows that it may be protective based on the prevanlence of smoking among patients being surprisingly low based on the prevalence of smoking in China. It suggests downregulation of ACE2 receptors as a possible explination.

It uses China's data so keep that in mind but it doesnt relate to the amount of total cases, just the prevalence of current smoking based on the cases that are known.



This is good information thank you. I had posted the article that is reference 1 in this paper, "Nicotine and the Renin Angiotension System". I had misread this sentence:

The literature presented in this review strongly suggests that nicotine alters the homeostasis of the RAS by upregulating the detrimental angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE)/angiotensin (ANG)-II/ANG II type 1 receptor axis and downregulating the compensatory ACE2/ANG-(1-7)/Mas receptor axis, contributing to the development of CVPD.

but you are correct

hopefully the effect is exerted by nicotine and not the other constituents of smoke because I vape :lol:


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: sh4d0ws] * 1
    #26563577 - 03/28/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks guys. The odds are very much in her favor, but it's still a scary time. Just one more example that this thing is definitely no joke, even if it doesn't kill you it can be hell and possibly days or even weeks of not being able breathe and not knowing which statistic you'll end up as.

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My cousin that I mentioned earlier is getting admitted. She was seen at Mass General's COVID clinic 2 days ago and they put her on 3 meds (at least one antibiotic) and multiple inhalers. No improvement since then and her test came back positive.

Her symptoms started like the flu, then she got pneumonia. Blood O2 in the mid 80s, cant take any more than the most shallow breaths without coughing, throwing up from coughing. Can barely make it up 3 stairs to get in her house. Shes only 30 and no real health issues previously. She has no idea who she got it from, she wasn't around any visibly sick people. Hopefully MGH can help her, they're supposed to be one of the best in the world but I feel like no one knows wtf to do at this point.





Curious, do you know how long approximately from when she developed first symptoms to when she was admitted?

I think I might be coming down with something. Swollen lymph nodes, had a sore throat last 2 days (its gone today though)

Nothing really respiratory related but I have a runny nose and been coughing a bit. Seems too mild to be covid but I have no idea, it might be allergies I spent a few hours cleaning up my backyard yesterday.

I hope your cousin gets better soon, sorry to hear she needs to be hospitalized

stay safe out there people




I think she had flu symptoms for like a week, fever, GI stuff, runny nose. Respiratory issues started probably 5-7 days in. The first ER she went to refused to test her, and diagnosed her with pneumonia. Not sure the exact days but Im guessing around 8 from first symptoms to the positive COVID test and then hospital. Shes getting blood work and xrays done right now at MGH then it sounds like she'll be getting oxygen


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: feevers]
    #26563597 - 03/28/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I've just been looking at the numbers for the US, and they're pretty consistent across differing areas, and similar to the UK (I checked Nevada, Colorado and Arkansas).  Approximately 29% day by day increase, leading to 10 x the number of cases every 9 days.

I really hope the measures taken have an effect, but the things I hear from Trump make me worry.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: feevers] * 3
    #26563598 - 03/28/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I love how they keep interviewing Larry Brilliant on MSNBC


for those who don't know he is one of us


dude dropped a shitload of acid during medical school (and honestly long after, wouldnt be surprised if he still does). went to india with wavy gravy and all those guys for a spirit quest and went on to become an integral part of smallpox eradication. Don't worry I'm not outing him, he wrote about it all in his autobiography called sometimes brilliant



an hero for us all



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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #26563617 - 03/28/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Shes getting blood work and xrays done right now at MGH then it sounds like she'll be getting oxygen




Huh? If you're satting under 95 (lower than 95% of the hemoglobin in your arterial blood is saturated with oxygen) they're supposed to throw you on 2L o2 via nasal cannula immediately. it's within the nursing scope of practice, all registered nurses are allowed to start patients on 2L of oxygen. In the ER we are actually allowed to give patients a lot more than that without a doctor's order. unless you mean theyre gonna send her home with O2. but based on what you're saying she needs to advocate for admission to the hospital and get an audio recording of why they will not do it if they decide not to.


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 - Number Research [Re: morrowasted] * 2
    #26563629 - 03/28/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

"Wuhan Coronavirus" has the BEST English Gematria matches Ive ever seen. Mind-blowing.

My favorite matches are "Key to the Apocalypse", "President Xi Jinping", "Donald John Trump Sr", "Event Two Zero One", "Simple English Gematria" (what this chart uses), "Coincidental Patterns", "Cannabis Truth Revealed", "Military Intelligence", "Impossible Coincidences", and "Saturn Priesthood" (Spiritual Aliens? A Cult?).



Unrealz :mindblown:

How would someone calculate the probability that these related phrases would match up with Gematria like this? I know theres a way to calculate the probability but I forgot how...

Something like 26! for each letter of a word I think?


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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: morrowasted] * 7
    #26563630 - 03/28/20 04:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Florida sees sharp spike in coronavirus infections as fears grow it could be another hotspot

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FLORIDA GOV. DESANTIS SAYS HE HAS NO PLANS FOR STATEWIDE STAY-AT-HOME ORDER, DESPITE WARNINGS




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