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LeningradCowboy
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante] 2
#26560601 - 03/27/20 06:42 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yep. Trying to not smoke cigarettes and cutting my weed smoking all so.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante]
#26560634 - 03/27/20 07:07 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It is kind of important to know that China caused a global pandemic.
Completely unfair to say that. The Spanish Flu started in Kansas, did the US "cause a global pandemic"?
In the world a crisis arose, and it arose in the most populous country.
Stop blaming China and clean up your mess.
China messed up in the beginning but then got its shit together. They quarantined 700 million people trying to stop this. Trump hasnt even wiped his butt.
Where will be the instant crisis hospitals for Americans?
My mess? What mess did I make? Trump is only interested in profiting off of this in any way he can, that isn't news. There likely won't be instant crisis hospitals for Americans because the government really doesn't care about the populous.
I'm sure saying angry things on the Internet will change that though. Not enough hatred towards America yet on this thread.
Maybe when this is cleared up the US can set up organ harvesting camps and wet markets.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Colours]
#26560684 - 03/27/20 07:59 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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http://publichealth.harriscountytx.gov/Resources/2019-Novel-Coronavirus/Harris-County-COVID-19-Confirmed-Cases
Tracker for cases in my county. Still just the one mortality. Cases are increasing but at a relatively linear rate.
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Asante
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante] 1
#26560688 - 03/27/20 08:03 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Meanwhile in Holland 
Tuesday 382 (March 10, 2020) Wednesday: 503 (+121) Thursday: 614 (+111) Friday: 804 (+190) Saturday: 959 (+155) Sunday: 1135 (+176) Monday: 1413 (+287)(March 16) Tuesday: 1708 (+295) Wednesday: 2051 (+343) Thursday 2460 (+409) Friday 2994 (+534) Saturday 3631 (+637) Sunday 4202 (+571) Monday 4749 (+547)(March 23) Tuesday 5560 (+811) Wednesday 6412 (+852) Thursday 7431 (+1019) Friday 8603 (+1172)
Its good to see the curve flattening is working
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante] 1
#26560697 - 03/27/20 08:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Its good to see the curve flattening is working 
1: you know perfectly well what an exponential curve looks like and that in this one, the exponent is pretty small. A far cry from a pure, unadulterated CoViD19 exponential curve as we've seen in some other more unfortunate places - and alas, as we'll see in many countries to come. 2: you also know perfectly well that 'cases' barely tell the story here.
Sure, more could always be done in theory, but you have to consider how much more we can realistically sacrifice.
I find your facepalm very disrespectful to all the Dutch people who are putting their shoulders under this. Very disrespectful indeed.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koraks] 2
#26560704 - 03/27/20 08:27 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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koraks said: Sure, more could always be done in theory, but you have to consider how much more we can realistically sacrifice
When the knowledge and the means are there but total action isn't taken, human life is realistically what's being sacrificed. Hard to think of other more important things.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koraks] 1
#26560708 - 03/27/20 08:29 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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You can make it about that if you want to.
I'm doing a lockdown, for weeks now, and watch people en masse violating even the flimsy rules the government imposes.
Covid parties, really?
If people cant stay at home for each other, how are we going to meet our climate goals?
I'm cranky.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: feevers]
#26560715 - 03/27/20 08:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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feevers said:
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koraks said: Sure, more could always be done in theory, but you have to consider how much more we can realistically sacrifice
When the knowledge and the means are there but total action isn't taken, human life is realistically what's being sacrificed. Hard to think of other more important things.
The question very quickly becomes not so much IF you sacrifice lives, but WHICH ones. This is already happening. Sometimes explicitly, sometimes subtly. That's what I mean by 'realistically': how much collateral damage in terms of resources, social value as well as lives are you willing to incur in saving CoViD19 patients?
It's too easy to say that not enough is being done without accounting for the 'costs' of what is being done. Those costs are not just economic.
Also good that you included the bit about 'knowledge and means'. We (1) don't have the knowledge on any effective treatment and (2) we don't have the means to expand hospital capacity. It's also doubtful if we have the means to enforce a total lockdown (regardless of the damage in other areas of such an approach; again, not just economic damage).
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante] 1
#26560718 - 03/27/20 08:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Asante said: I'm doing a lockdown, for weeks now, and watch people en masse violating even the flimsy rules the government imposes.
1. The rules aren't "flimsy". They're unprecedented, period. 2. The vast majority of the people adhere to the rules. The fact that there's always a small % of retards is included into scenario calculations. Of course that % should be minimized, but don't make it seem like it's a big %. It's not.
And seriously, at this point, fuck off with your climate goals.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante] 1
#26560724 - 03/27/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is viral interference a resistance or increased risk? I found a study/article that claims interference of coronaviruses from flu vaccines but there's some discrepancy in how the article and other sources explain what viral interference is.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31607599/
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Purpose: Receiving influenza vaccination may increase the risk of other respiratory viruses, a phenomenon known as virus interference..
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Conclusions: ..."Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus.."
Apologies if this is an old discussion or I'm just being dumb here
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: koraks] 3
#26560732 - 03/27/20 08:47 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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And seriously, at this point, fuck off with your climate goals.
I guess I'm not the only one who has the COVID stress
Deal with it
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante] 9
#26560737 - 03/27/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seems like a drastic reduction in fossil fuel use may have been a side effect of this anyway.
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LeningradCowboy
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Asante] 5
#26560740 - 03/27/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Guys please!
WE ARE ON SAME SIDE ON THIS ONE!
Everybody is getting stressed, but please deal with it. We all have to do it one way or another.
Peace&Love
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: psi] 3
#26560742 - 03/27/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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psi said: Seems like a drastic reduction in fossil fuel use may have been a side effect of this anyway.
Now let's do it a few times per year to have the effect stick
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Seriously_trippin] 6
#26560766 - 03/27/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: China is responsible for this outbreak and they're lying through their teeth. There is just hacking took place with the Chinese government's official members on death and they found it the death rates were underreported by a factor of 30x.
God I am getting so fucking tired of hearing this. 'It's China's fault'. 'China should be punished'. 'China needs to be eliminated'. Etc, etc.
I'm in frequent contact with people all around the world, yet I hear only Americans saying this.
Can somebody please explain to me why this is the case?
My misanthropy is growing.
Again.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 3
#26560773 - 03/27/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is it really even worth listening or giving the time of day to people that ignorant they resort to xenophobia
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#26560782 - 03/27/20 09:16 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Äll ways easier to blame others than look in mirror.
Reason for example why Hitler was so popular. One of his main themes was to give people someone else to blaim for things aka jews.
In murica it is now chinese people that are getting targeted. Hate is all ways easier than reflecting and facing your own shit.
People are afraid now, can understand that and fear leads to darkside as we all know.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Tantrika]
#26560788 - 03/27/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I do get the stress and have also witnessed it around here for quite sometime, even with my own close hard headed bloodlines. Apparently some are still asleep despite the wakeup calls that one thing leads to anothet, but are still too stuck to what we have been used to.
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Asante
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 4
#26560792 - 03/27/20 09:20 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said:
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Seriously_trippin said: China is responsible for this outbreak and they're lying through their teeth. There is just hacking took place with the Chinese government's official members on death and they found it the death rates were underreported by a factor of 30x.
God I am getting so fucking tired of hearing this. 'It's China's fault'. 'China should be punished'. 'China needs to be eliminated'. Etc, etc.
I'm in frequent contact with people all around the world, yet I hear only Americans saying this.
Can somebody please explain to me why this is the case?
My misanthropy is growing.
Again.
Since its all "china's fault" and "china must pay" one might as well pay reparations to the African Americans and give the land back to the Native Americans, no?
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LeningradCowboy
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 aka Wuhan Coronavirus aka COVID-19 [Re: LeningradCowboy] 1
#26560797 - 03/27/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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If we dont stop this bullshit of fighting each others we are going to give this place back to animals and viruses etc.
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