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First time. Need advice. Comparing LSD to mushrooms and other medicines
    #26560552 - 03/27/20 05:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Good afternoon community,


So I was hoping for some advice. SWIM received some red star microdots from a well sourced and trusted source, supposedly at 200 ug / star. He bought these to experiment with microdosing but found the gelatin/ lay process did not dissolve and is not looking more into mushrooms and the Acid for some spiritual top ups. He has experience with Aya (several sessions -10+, San Pedro/peyote - ceremonial and intense personal brew, mushrooms 2.5g tekked, as well as Bufo (5meo), he is nervous about trying the LSD as the tablets are too hard to dissolve, or too small to cut accurately to take a lesser dose. He would like a substantial experience but will be taking it unfortunately (due to restrictions atm) in his room unable to leave and get into nature. (Best for regrounding) He has some music loaded, especially music from his Bufo playlist to guide the medicine. He is comfortable with the visuals under all the medicine but always being with plant medicine, he is curious if it's containable to watch oneself and be able to stay inside his room . It's a comfortable space he knows well so that won't be an issue with comfort but not being able to go outside and ground he wants to know where a 200ug dose would take him. Is it necessary to move around, be outside or is it more like DMT where one can shut his eyes and just be..... Taking in the experience. It will be his first time doing LSD ,even with experience on other medicines will 200 be too much for a first time. He has not had a bad trip and is good at staying with breath and aligning with the medicine. He have tried to grind the tablet up and take half and nothing has been successful, but the same batch has a friend warn they are very strong. Should he try and just take half but cutting, or just take the whole dose. He does not want to be scared off and turned off but the medicine.He works on Monday and will have one day to intigrate . There is so many reports on 200 being a perfect starter dose and others saying too it's too much for first time in acid. Any advice  has anyone seen the red star microdots? Got his in europe. Thank you community. Started off at the peak of the pyramid with DMT and 5meo etc. .  But with so much respect for anything foreign. Speak soon.


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Re: First time. Need advice. Comparing LSD to mushrooms and other medicines [Re: WanderingGypsy]
    #26560599 - 03/27/20 06:41 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

In my experience.

I worked up to 200+ dosing from 100 then 200. But there is no sure answer on how anyone, given any experience level will react to any given dose.

That being said experience does help. There is a noticeable difference between lsd and mushrooms because lsd has affects dopamine and other parts of the brain that mushrooms do not. There is also a noticeable similarity but the difference is pronounced if you dwell on comparing them. They are different molecules so they are different. Lsd can last much longer than mushrooms and the afterglow in my experience last a bit longer than mushrooms does.

I havent tripped in a few years but when i do i plan on taking 100 then a few weeks later going up to 200 but thats all my preference.

I feel confident that you will come to the right conclusion as long as you are reading trip reports and take the only 2 rules there are seriously. Set and setting. Make sure youre mentally good and make sure your environment for the entirety of your trip will be calm positive. Having an experienced sitter to be around if you need grounding is always recommended.

Be safe and always practice safe sesh. Test yo shit.


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Re: First time. Need advice. Comparing LSD to mushrooms and other medicines [Re: Plain]
    #26560611 - 03/27/20 06:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I always want to be doing something on acid. Shrooms are much easier to chill out on for me. Acid, I will need to hike, or have some simple activity.

I bet you would enjoy it more if you could plan it out for a good time. At least be able to walk around your house or yard.

I think 200 is a good dose. It might be intense, but not so much you couldn’t handle it, especially considering your previous experience.


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Re: First time. Need advice. Comparing LSD to mushrooms and other medicines [Re: Shr00mEater] * 1
    #26561443 - 03/27/20 03:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thank you for the advice. Plain thank you for the comparison between the two. I recently did a few sessions with Bufo with a shaman, and it was the most life changing medicine I have come across, I would like to continue exploring that space and continue the work I started that day.

SHROOMEATER thank you for the boost of confidence. I have a sober sitter and a set up playlist ( I am hoping to start with 3/4 of a tab but they are red star microdots so almost possible to dissolve and to cut. ) I have attempted to dissolve two but have had no success so don't want to keep wasting them.
Unfortunately with the apocalypse happening right now pretty forced to stay in my hotel room ( a comfortable space I am used to- due to a long time here) but not able to wander outside the room. I agree with you, being outside is the best! Grounding and appreciating nature


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Re: First time. Need advice. Comparing LSD to mushrooms and other medicines [Re: WanderingGypsy]
    #26562034 - 03/27/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

200 is a good sized dose but with his experience he should be able to handle it just fine. If it were his first psychedelic experience, I'd go lower.

Acid definitely lasts much longer than mushrooms and can be difficult to sleep afterwards for many people so I'd recommend taking it earlier in the day unless he doesn't mind being awake all night.

I've spent hours in a room on acid before on multiple occasions back when I lived in an apartment, as long as you have plenty of music to listen to or weird videos to watch, fun video games or cool shit to play with it's pretty much fine. A pet helps too. I find mushrooms give me the desire to go sit outside far more than acid does but it varies from person to person.

Acid is a lot more heady in my opinion while mushrooms are more body until you get to higher doses. Good L won't have too much of a body load but it can make your body feel funny, it can make your face flush or your fingers cold, it's a mild vasoconstrictor if I recall correctly. I have far more experience with acid than I do mushrooms and I've only ever had a bad time once and that was due to extraneous factors and have guided countless successful trips for others. Mushrooms have been a little more varied in experience for me but honestly mixing the two is definitely a situation where the combination is more than the sum of the parts individually. As my cultivation experience grows I hope to expand my experience with them.

Keep some fruits on hand, I like oranges because they feel nice in my hand and have a good mouth texture and don't repulse people like normal food potentially can. They also smell nice and look really cool when tripping. Try to eat a good meal beforehand because eating while tripping is difficult and you will get hungry after a few hours.

Sorry for the use of "you" it's just how I type but you get what I'm saying :cool:


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