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Wtf how do i do this
    #26559063 - 03/26/20 12:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

No matter what tek what guide i do mist fan and no mist fan...

I get this... 4 or 5 on top


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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: drgreen89] * 1
    #26559105 - 03/26/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thats not a very healthy looking tub. Looks like its not properly filled and leveled. Looks like theres voids around some corners and some hills and valleys on the surface. And doesnt look like it was fully colonized. Whatever tek youre using, follow it exactly. Dont cut corners.


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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: Thrill]
    #26559124 - 03/26/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

What teks are you using? Help us help you mate....more info


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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: Thrill]
    #26559132 - 03/26/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I second Thrill's opinion. Side and bottom pins form because the micro climate in those areas was better than your overall surface conditions. The best way to avoid them is to level out your surface as much as possible and get your moisture/humidity dialed in appropriately. More info on your methods would definitely help.


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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: Morbility]
    #26559215 - 03/26/20 01:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

What's your ratio?


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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: drgreen89]
    #26559221 - 03/26/20 01:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I would recommend using a liner, it could help curb those pins on the bottom :thumbup: more info please on what tek your following?


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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: Happycuzimhuntin]
    #26560140 - 03/26/20 09:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I recommend working on your sterile tek... dirty spawn, dawg.


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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: LotKid] * 1
    #26560189 - 03/26/20 10:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I recommend working on your sterile tek... dirty spawn, dawg.




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Substrate doesn’t look fully colonized with large healthy fruits and a lot of other mycelium growing.
And not the good kind.


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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #26560197 - 03/26/20 10:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Looks like you didnt put much effort into this tub. So leads me to believe you weren't putting in much effort with the earlier stuff either :shrug:


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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: Mooshi97]
    #26560482 - 03/27/20 04:09 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Would be better served putting your tub in the compost.Why not tell us your tek?


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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: Sunny Skies]
    #26560507 - 03/27/20 04:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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TranscendingLife said:
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LotKid said:
I recommend working on your sterile tek... dirty spawn, dawg.




:whathesaid:

Substrate doesn’t look fully colonized with large healthy fruits and a lot of other mycelium growing.
And not the good kind.





Noo. this is defo sterile and clean. Mushrooms

It was all level its at the end of its flushing its fruited 3 weeks
Ive harvested 25grams off 1 and 34 off the othet dry

Its un3ven yes and broken from pulling it out to harvest the bottom mushrooms

This is old and dry now. Everything bruises blue and nothing is green or mouldy no mould what so ever.

I cut no corners i even traveled 44 miles to get dame grain bods shoevox tek.

I only had 3 jars and i split them betwren 2 so if i lost 1 other was fine.
So yeah its not asmuch as most put in but didnt hsve 6 qt jars


I had a bag over the top as it said to. Was small slow shrooms on here roger rabbit said mist them 2 times aday and fan... So i did it helped but then on here was advised to open the top off... And stop misting when i did that everytbing started fruiting underneath instead...
Pic is a bit bright its not that grey colour its white with coco brown
I left it in fruiting like bod said to let it do its thing

What othet mycellium is there? I dont see any and my shrooms are amazing


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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: drgreen89]
    #26560551 - 03/27/20 05:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You dont necessarily have to mist*x amount of times a day, just when it needs it. Figure out how to read your surface conditions and that alone oughta help out quite a bit, even with less than perfect spawn. On the other hand you could have the best spawn ever and if surface conditions arent good enough the flush wont be either

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053
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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: drgreen89]
    #26560758 - 03/27/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Noo. this is defo sterile and clean. Mushrooms



Doesnt look like it to me but hey, you're the one asking for help... :shrug:

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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: LotKid]
    #26560795 - 03/27/20 09:22 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It’s really hard to get an idea of what’s happening with those pictures. The first set of pics do look horrendous 😀 no offense lol. I know you said that’s after several weeks and after lifting the block out I guess to get to the bottom pins but my mush always seemed to appreciate neatness in their habitat.

Are those second 2 pictures from the original pin set? You should try using a liner next time which can help with side and bottom pins. And get some more qt jars going so you can have a good amount of spawn.

Did those pins in the second pics mature to nice mushrooms?


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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: drgreen89]
    #26560844 - 03/27/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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drgreen89 said:
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TranscendingLife said:
Quote:

LotKid said:
I recommend working on your sterile tek... dirty spawn, dawg.




:whathesaid:

Substrate doesn’t look fully colonized with large healthy fruits and a lot of other mycelium growing.
And not the good kind.





Noo. this is defo sterile and clean. Mushrooms

It was all level its at the end of its flushing its fruited 3 weeks
Ive harvested 25grams off 1 and 34 off the othet dry

Its un3ven yes and broken from pulling it out to harvest the bottom mushrooms

This is old and dry now. Everything bruises blue and nothing is green or mouldy no mould what so ever.

I cut no corners i even traveled 44 miles to get dame grain bods shoevox tek.

I only had 3 jars and i split them betwren 2 so if i lost 1 other was fine.
So yeah its not asmuch as most put in but didnt hsve 6 qt jars


I had a bag over the top as it said to. Was small slow shrooms on here roger rabbit said mist them 2 times aday and fan... So i did it helped but then on here was advised to open the top off... And stop misting when i did that everytbing started fruiting underneath instead...
Pic is a bit bright its not that grey colour its white with coco brown
I left it in fruiting like bod said to let it do its thing

What othet mycellium is there? I dont see any and my shrooms are amazing


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How big are the tubs and how much sub did you spawn the 3 jars into? Without knowing how big of a tub that is, 25 grams is a pretty low yield. Properly done, you could have expected 4 to 5 times as much.

So if that first pic is after weeks of fruiting, and it was definitely clean and sterile and everything, then what do you need help with exactly?


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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: Thrill]
    #26560849 - 03/27/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Lol it’s leveled?
Pretty sure you got myc growing on the walls of that one mono, dude.

Just shake it up after spawning, then level with a ruler or a book or smthn.


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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: feldman114]
    #26560899 - 03/27/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Agreed that tub needs leveled. 

Gotta say though, my mycelium always wants to pretend its ivy and go vertical rhizo on any surface, plastic or glass, it doesn't matter.


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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: drgreen89]
    #26560957 - 03/27/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

just start over and follow the tek to a t.

there is clearly something wrong with your spawn or substrate

first thing i noticed was no liner, nothing blocking light from bottom, so youre gonna get bottom/ side fruits

is your tub un modified? if youre misting with no air flow thats a recipe for bacteria, too much water combined with no air flow.

higher rations of clean spawn is key, i prefer to do no less than a 3:1 ratio and no more than 2:1, but thats just me

i usually get decent flushes from ms spawn, a recent tub, and this is just one 60 quart ( some have done more some less) did almost 80 g dry on first flush.

and im not satisfied with that, trying to improve.


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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: Mycobum7] * 1
    #26560968 - 03/27/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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first thing i noticed was no liner,



If you level your sub and have proper surface conditions, you shouldn't need a liner.
They do come in handy when it comes to cleaning the sub out of the tub, though.


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Re: Wtf how do i do this [Re: LotKid]
    #26561115 - 03/27/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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drgreen89 said:
Noo. this is defo sterile and clean. Mushrooms



Doesnt look like it to me but hey, you're the one asking for help... :shrug:

:goodluck:




Can you teach me what makes it bad? From my experience whe. It goes green it was bad or fluffy like polyfil?

These all sremed so healthy to me and ive had nothing but trips off em.

Its bods tek he advisrs bo need to line it as its bot light but the air gap and moisture that side pins come from. And he and oters dont liner it.

The shoebox tek says no holes just flip the lid and put a bag over it to fruit with holes in it.

Nothings growing on the tub.
Ratio is 2 jar spawn 300g coir in a 25x15cm box 28g dry as he does 5 jar to 650g


I follow3d it somuch even to the extent of pcing the coir instead of just pasturising.

Everyrthing was alcahol 70 and h2o2 flame sterile

Jars wash in soap
Jars wash in h2o2 12%
Jars 2hr in pc

Oats wash 3 times over ane scoop out any floaters
Oats cook 2hrs on a rolling boil till a few pop
Oats out til evap steam
Load jars 3/4
Seal jars and pc for 2hr
Leave over night

Into air box
Spray in h2o2 hands in alcahol
Wipe all in alcohol
Flame needle
And push thru an alcahwipe over sealing port

1week later its fully colinated
Id love to do. More jars but after my last lot i lost contams. So i had a 6ml spore left

Now

Coir cooked pc 2hr not needed
Coir to fieldcap squeeze
Into tub after sterilising with h2oro and alcahol and drying thru evap

Coco in.
Spawn in
Mix
Level off pat dow
Lid on and wait.

On pinning flio lid and whe. Shrooms add a food bag over top with holes and wipe alcahol.


Rogerrabbit said i needed 3. Mists and a fan after misting

This increased my top yield
But bottom stil went mad

Advised on here to open the top as they want. More air

So i did and this increase my flushes under again

Then when dryed out i soaked it in water and drained it 20min later

Then i got another big flush

Done same this time and now its off again fruiting massive shrooms
The small ones have stopped after 3 weeks and now im getting giants when its almost spent?


I even had sone shrooms grow out the surface and then down ibto the spawn so i had uoside down mushrooms showing gills on coco level full cap inside sub.....

Good fruuts 4gram i hit hard and amazing.

Soni dont ubderstand how its contam? I dont see anything but magjcs coming up?


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