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How to determine if someone is 'native american' * 2
    #26558948 - 03/26/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Well, my great, great grand mother was part of so-and-so tribe, so I'm a native American.

:badtrip:

I would like to call people out on some BS claims but don't want to offend anyone.

Is this OTD type stuff?


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: HamHead] * 5
    #26558968 - 03/26/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Chief Whatzizname of the So-and So Tribe does not approve this thread.



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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: Dilsnique]
    #26559033 - 03/26/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Keep yer injun garbage outta the OTD'S!:crankey:

You aint no native, your great great gma was.
I bet you're as white as the day is long. Go hang out in the rez and tell em all your native. See if you can get some of that sweet sweet casino moneys
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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: Fleabag Friend] * 2
    #26559034 - 03/26/20 11:46 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: Ahab McBathsalts] * 3
    #26559045 - 03/26/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

That was awful


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: Dilsnique] * 6
    #26559062 - 03/26/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I mean I never claim to be native american but I tan red, my hair decided to turn nearly black for no apparent reason, and... I actually know which tribe my great great grandmother came from it makes it pretty obvious that I am at least partly.


I actually know a little bit about my culture and know a little bit about ancestry (quite alot actually, hillbillies don't have alot else to talk about.) About the ancestor in question.


Nah I think it's cool if you know your heritage and want to learn about it and embrace it and understand where you came from and what the different parts of your ancestor is up to these days. (In my case it's mostly being appallingly poor, sick, and no one giving a shit.)


But if you're touting it simply as top 10 facts about yourself... I don't give a shit. If you're saying it because you think it says "look I'm neat" or "look I'm not actually white." I don't know why you give a shit.


Most white people outside of Europe are not actually white. Not entirely. I have a little bit of black in me supposedly too. Though I don't know anything about that supposed black ancestor so I don't much talk about it.

What's there to say? Cookie might be some % black? Hmm... what do you say to that... neat?  :thumbup:



:lol: I dunno. As a conversation piece I think it's pretty cool but I'd suggest you actually learn a bit about the culture first. Most Americans are in some part native american because... that's what the native survivors did. They either interbred or went to go live on reservations that continually moved to shittier locations and got shit on by the government and for generations, to this day, live in 3rd world conditions with the modern hells of that at their disposal.

I'm mostly white, I mostly look white, and bringing up my heritage is always a point of pride and sadness. It shouldn't have been a choice between living in your culture in wretched conditions or assimilating into other cultures.


Same thing is happening to my appalachian ancestry right now. It's why I'm here. Being a typical boring white person in the 21st century in a 21st century city. My grandparents had the choice of staying there and starving, or at least not giving their kids an education and hope for the future, or coming here and working in factories. :ohwell:

Sucks but I'm glad they chose... us not starving. I like not starving.


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26559071 - 03/26/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: Ahab McBathsalts] * 1
    #26559073 - 03/26/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: HamHead]
    #26559106 - 03/26/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The right to be indigenous to somewhere does sound pretty appealing, although of course it comes with a bunch of other baggage. I can't even get "back" into the country my ancestors are from without becoming a more desirable immigrant than I would be currently. And it would be the same shit as here, beholden to bosses and landlords or banks just for a little scrap of land you're allowed to exist on.


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: psi] * 4
    #26559118 - 03/26/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I have native American in my bloodline(cherokee). I am not native American though. I'm a fucking human.


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #26559127 - 03/26/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Itโ€™s bout dat spirit yo! :heart::manofapproval:


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: zZZz] * 4
    #26559149 - 03/26/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm a native, I will not suffer you filthy Dead Rabbits in the 5 points anymore!


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: Ice9]
    #26559166 - 03/26/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Luv that movie! da butcher is my boy yo :heart::manofapproval:


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: zZZz]
    #26559805 - 03/26/20 06:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I get a little annoyed at people making claims of 'being native' and getting offended by things like pipe lines and such when both their parents are white and both grand parents are white, and it's only until they reach greater parents is when native blood ends.

I'm no native and don't even pretend to be, because my dad has blood from England and my mom from Germany. My grandfathers name on my moms side was Adolf before moving to US, having to change it to Arthur.

I work with a person, white AF, claiming 'native', and proud of it and I cringe when there's talk of 'native pride'.


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: HamHead] * 2
    #26559826 - 03/26/20 07:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah fuck that shit. I have human pride.


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: spirit_shadow] * 2
    #26559829 - 03/26/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If you watch Fox News, you are a Naive American


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26559867 - 03/26/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Elizabeth Warren :hehehe:


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: Asante]
    #26559893 - 03/26/20 07:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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If you watch CNN, you are a sheep




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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: Mneeb]
    #26559901 - 03/26/20 07:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If you watch any television at all you're a slave  :thumbsup:


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: Asante]
    #26559907 - 03/26/20 07:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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If you watch any television at all you're a slave  :thumbsup:




Actually, well said. Both sides are full of shit. CNN is the worst though, If you fact check their articles it's all a crock of shit. I can make anyone sound bad with opinionated words and take something entirely out of context to make them look ridiculous. It's annoying as hell to watch the news and listen to what people say, then actually watch what that said person actually said in a full length video.


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: Mneeb] * 4
    #26560081 - 03/26/20 09:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I mean you can get indignant about pipelines without having any native blood. Especially the part about shooting tear gas and water canons at peaceful protesters.

It's disgraceful that we're still treating these people like this.


They kinda became our people and our responsibility thanks to the shitty actions and broken promises of our ancestors. It became our responsibility to see that they're making out as best they can. Not only are we failing miserably at that... we're also continuing to rub salt in the wounds.


Again you can be proud of your heritage, I think that's great, but how you word things does have implications.



I bought a knife from a fellow that was created "the old way" with a deer antler, flint, and artificial sinew as a gift for my brother. I mentioned growing up with our native american culture sprinkled into our life lessons. He said "oh yeah? what tribe?" I said Powhatan, condensed into the Pamunkey tribe now (as that's the land the government was willing to concede for the reservation.) He told me most people tell him they're Cherokee.

...Yeah that's probably the only tribe they can name. :undecided:

Apparently claiming a native American ancestor is a way to cover up a mixed ancestor. I imagine in some circles marrying a native woman would have been viewed in a better light than marrying a black woman.


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: HamHead] * 2
    #26560086 - 03/26/20 09:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You have to see if they know the secret handshake.


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: HamHead]
    #26560132 - 03/26/20 09:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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HamHead said:
Well, my great, great grand mother was part of so-and-so tribe, so I'm a native American.

:badtrip:

I would like to call people out on some BS claims but don't want to offend anyone.

Is this OTD type stuff?





I've noticed this as well.  What's more irritating is that every person I've met who is "part Native American" -- usually white people -- are descendants of "Cherokee royalty."  What's amazing is that I've met dozens of these people in my lifetime, literally dozens, and all these descendants of "Royal Cherokees" live in the same town.  It's egregious to say the least. ๐Ÿ˜‚


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26560143 - 03/26/20 09:56 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
It's disgraceful that we're still treating these people like this.

They kinda became our people and our responsibility thanks to the shitty actions and broken promises of our ancestors. It became our responsibility to see that they're making out as best they can. Not only are we failing miserably at that... we're also continuing to rub salt in the wounds.





Hold up there patna!
I didn't do shit, don't lump me up in this "our/we" business!:crankey:


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: Fleabag Friend]
    #26560147 - 03/26/20 09:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Fine. Our leaders and our media and our social justice warriors and our general culture.


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 2
    #26560151 - 03/26/20 10:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:awedance:

HA! Now I'm alleviated of all responsibility. Back to my life of over-consumption!
Why are gas prices so high? I need to drive my gas guzzling SUV to get more ding dongs from walmart an hour away. Wheres that new pipeline?? :crankey:


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: HamHead] * 3
    #26560155 - 03/26/20 10:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

My father tried to pursue Native heritage in our bloodline
found an old picture of a great grandmother or something who was visibly of First Nations descent, but who could not be found in official records before the marriage
think he only ever really pursued it because he wanted to try to qualify for treaty rights
to claim he had done me a favour in getting coverage for my schooling that he went back on his offer to pay for

it's pretty likely due to tracing back on my father's father's side into early French Canadian settlers
who considered the First Nations "like brothers" and frequently intermarried
while the English (who would ultimately colour what post-colonial treatment meant) had more of a disdain and a view of First Nations as being lesser humans, like people in all the colonized English lands

it's fun to piss on English culture
knowing that my father's mother is from a very anglo-saxon background in service to the Queen (one of her grandfathers only possessions in coming over to Canada was a homemade box he used to transport his stuff--it is stamped with something like the royal stable-hand authorization)
but she performed the cultural taboo of marrying a Frenchman and doing her best to speak to his family in French
:cookiemonster:

kind of want a DNA test or something to put it to rest
also to find out just how Celtic and/or Bretonnian my bloodline actually is
but to mainly know if it would be rewarding to try to more closely engage with Mรฉtis culture (which is big in Manitoba) through role of a participant
or merely a respectful observer



also, Mรฉtis don't have treaty rights
so it is more about the interest in a perpetuation of a traditional culture tied to the land around me
than qualifying for particular forms of governmental treatment


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: Tantrika] * 1
    #26560201 - 03/26/20 10:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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it's pretty likely due to tracing back on my father's father's side into early French Canadian settlers
who considered the First Nations "like brothers" and frequently intermarried





probably most tribal members in ontario and manitoba have european ancestry from the early french canadian fur trappers. reversely i see the remnants of the tribes in most of the "white" people i have met from that region. i see it everywhere. pics of pubbers. a lot of you guys from the toronto area


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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: Tantrika] * 1
    #26560204 - 03/26/20 10:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

also, just for sake of fair is fair
do not think that having Mรฉtis bloodline is necessary to be able to respect the land around me
and already attempt to do so in my witchy way
with the most religiostic practice being an honoring of the named goddess energy Sirona from Celtic traditions in ancient France
as she is the goddess of healing springs
and my home is adjacent to a nature-preserve marshland
fed by an artesian spring -- ie: the healing goddesses domain

but Mรฉtis culture is preserving traditions of people who lived in this area for generations
who rode the rivers as highways and traded in the furs of the animals living in the region
so there is more of an interconnected understanding of the lands of Manitoba that are not so directly available to me
as an "outsider"

this is not to say my disdain is total for Modern Western culture either
am immensely grateful that the government has recognized the importance of the marshlands and made them into a protected area
but it is managed and reconstructed wetlands precisely because a lack of understanding of their importance to the ecosystem facillitated the destruction and conversion into agricultural land in the first place
and the knowledge and understanding of wetlands importance had to be rediscovered through scientific advancements
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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: Tantrika] * 1
    #26560210 - 03/26/20 10:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I used to hangout at a native cemetery everyday.

Laying in the grass watching the water/sunsets.

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    #26560215 - 03/26/20 11:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

There was a pretty big war there.

A lot of dark history.


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it's pretty likely due to tracing back on my father's father's side into early French Canadian settlers
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probably most tribal members in ontario and manitoba have european ancestry from the early french canadian fur trappers including my family. reversely i see the remnants of the tribes in most of the "white" people i have met from that region. i see it everywhere. pics of pubbers. a lot of you guys from the toronto area look a lot like me and my siblings we are mutts. i wish i could go live on the rez but its a swampy shithole. my wifes tribe has better land because white people havnt been there long and they havnt got around to destroying everything yet but theyre working on it




have heard similiar sentiment from people over the years
and there was a fairly innocent point in my life all the way up to about 13-14 that I didn't even think of or recognize anything as being different
would flirt with girls from different tribes in Manitoba who would do their schoolyear in Winnipeg
then fly back up North for the summer and stuff
and it took me a long-ass time to figure out why people would mistreat me for it =/
then got really exposed in high school in Saskatchewan to a lot racism
including being taunted for being Mรฉtis (on account of French last name, and maybe appearance?) along with other kids of French background

it's fucked how there is still this active sentiment of discrimination as well
remember when living in Saskatoon encountering anti-Native graffiti on downtown buildings and carved into park benches and shit

and yeah, do not want to get too much into discussion of it because it is hard to tackle without unjustly painting First Nations as being predisposed to gang violence
but am aware of even further sentiments that living poor and without the government money in violent city settings
is actually preferable to the conditions one would be subject to by commiting to being on the rez
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And I mean this is the nicest way.



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    #26560886 - 03/27/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

For me, you need three things for me to consider someone Native American.

1) You gotta know the exact tribe and area your people came from.

2) You gotta know what side of the family your Native blood comes from (Great Grandpa, Great Grandma, etc)

3) You gotta have a government ID that states you are Native American.

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    #26561205 - 03/27/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

for me they must
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Natives of all continents trembled in fear when my ancestors arrived to steal their riches in these



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    #26561277 - 03/27/20 02:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

no actually most of them came to the shore and showered the ships in spears and arrows everytime they tried to stop for water and damn near killed them all on several occasions. the spanish had to drink salt water and entire ships were on the verge of death. every time they went ashore they got their ass kicked for the first few decades. prevented the spanish accessing the mainland for several years in modern florida, louisanna, mississippi, texas, mexico, etc.

many of the island tribes came out peacefully to trade and the spanish treated them deplorable. disgusting. that makes you smile inside you are sick.

some spaniards actually chose to abandon everything and live in tribal societies in the caribbean, and were exterminated with the natives by later spanish murderers.

not that you care. your attitude is sadistic.
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the ignorance here is astounding. your teachers failed fuck

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+5 ๐Ÿ’–

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    #26561289 - 03/27/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It donโ€™t matter now brother these lands belong to u and ur fam always have God Bless yโ€™all! :heart:


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+5 ๐Ÿ’–

you forgot the part with the mayonaisse on the toast



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    #26561305 - 03/27/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

this is a really good story. exposes the layers of arrogance in this eurocentric world

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Franklin

they died of starvation while killing anything that moved for the fur. the eskimos we're watching them the whole time and came behind them picking up their trash. just found the boat a few years ago finally


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    #26561517 - 03/27/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Who said I was Spanish? Im from the Netherlands

There's two huge Dutch flags on the ship...


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youre right i didnt look at the picture too hard. sorry to offend you


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    #26561534 - 03/27/20 04:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

o look youve got the flag next to your location too. silly me.

dutch cooking is probably the worst in the world next to some of those scandinavian regions

the attitude is totally understandable. if all the women in the land i live in couldnt figure out how to cook thatd probably make me genocidal too


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    #26561675 - 03/27/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

krumkaka is the shit though how the hell do you even make that? my grandma died this year she made that stuff when i was a kid
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    #26561730 - 03/27/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Mmmm krumkaka :homerdrool:


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https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/68293/norwegian-krumkake/
i guess that's not dutch i thought it came from there but it says its based on an old italian recipe

european food must have been atrocious before they enslaved the world. in my opinion. what the hell did they put on their pizza? spaghetti never tasted so good either. have always despised cabbage. kimchi is the shit though lets make some


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    #26562075 - 03/27/20 08:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I got into a big debate about this on nazi forums trying to change minds. They classify "white" as being of purely European descent. Fair enough, but then you go to find that they grant exceptions to those who have some Native American ancestry. (My argument being that if Latinos are a minority in the US and we actively encourage interbreeding, within 5 generations we'll have no Latinos and a white population. Gotta think outside the box to reach people).

All of that being said, I also have Native American ancestry on both sides of my paternal grandparents (and most who come from the mountain south do as well). I am also dirty blonde with blue eyes. Can I claim being Native? To some, yeah, to others, no. At the end of the day, who really cares? American whites here before 1900 and almost all American blacks are fully removed from their mother cultures and are simply Americans. The same can be said for many Native Americans who only speak English and are completely removed from their ancestors' culture. That's how I see it.


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    #26562461 - 03/28/20 03:01 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If you arent officially enrolled in the tribe youre claiming shut the fuck up, no native cares to hear about how your grandma was a cherokee princess or whatever stupid shit it is you have to say.


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    #26562502 - 03/28/20 03:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You're an idiot. Even if you're not officially enrolled in a tribe you can still have history and ancestors interwoven with native tribes worth telling about and listening to.

And a lot of white people in North America are distantly related to the Cherokee people because they cooperated a lot with the Europeans when what is now the eastern US was being colonized.

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    #26562505 - 03/28/20 03:54 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

i read a book about how a lot of cherokees today are probably part black because they had slaves and black wives i cant remember the name of the book see if i can find it.. itd be interesting i think that was written before dna was widely available


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    #26562509 - 03/28/20 04:00 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

maybe it wasnt about the cherokee. damn i cant remember that was awhile ago it must have been some other tribe from the se or maybe one of the smaller tribes that was forced into cherokee society

"In 1819, the Cherokee Nation passed slave codes that regulated slave trade; forbade intermarriage; enumerated punishment for runaway slaves; and prohibited slaves from owning private property. "

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    #26562571 - 03/28/20 05:59 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: How to determine if someone is 'native american' [Re: cannabinated]
    #26564290 - 03/28/20 10:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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โ€œ we are far from the bones of my ancestorsโ€

Lmao, startrek voyager... they accidentally hired a fake Native American to direct the cultural and historical significant parts of their 2nd captain or something,  guy turned out to be a total fraud white medicine man who made it all up :excuseme:


Too bad I liked it for the most part anyway..heh


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Edited by The Blind Ass (03/28/20 10:26 PM)


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