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can i spawn my BRF Cake to bulk with Vermiculite
    #26558435 - 03/26/20 06:12 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

so i don't have access to coir right now and i have a brf cake almost ready (and it's pinning inside)
my question is can i spawn it in a plastic tray with vermiculite as substrate only? is it possible?


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Re: can i spawn my BRF Cake to bulk with Vermiculite [Re: rezasmith] * 1
    #26558440 - 03/26/20 06:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Vermiculite has no nutritional value therefore no you cannot. It's only used for water retention to make sure your substrate stays good n moist and fluffy.


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Re: can i spawn my BRF Cake to bulk with Vermiculite [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26558450 - 03/26/20 06:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yup, as Ovois said vermiculite is for holding water, it is not spawn.

If u had two cakes then you could crumble and mix 1:1 with vermiculite into a small tray. But since u only got one cake, u should just fruit that one cake.


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Re: can i spawn my BRF Cake to bulk with Vermiculite [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26558806 - 03/26/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Wait didn’t people used to do that all the time?

Sub is supposed to just hold water and not be nutritious right? That’s all coir does I thought it was just easier for the myc to run through and held more water than verm.

The brf should supply nutrients and the verm supplies water.


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Re: can i spawn my BRF Cake to bulk with Vermiculite [Re: A.k.a]
    #26558912 - 03/26/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Wait didn’t people used to do that all the time?

Sub is supposed to just hold water and not be nutritious right? That’s all coir does I thought it was just easier for the myc to run through and held more water than verm.

The brf should supply nutrients and the verm supplies water.



at this point im more confused
people say nutrient = more chance of contam but at the same time "verm is not good"
i heard alot that coir do not have nutrient but idk


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Re: can i spawn my BRF Cake to bulk with Vermiculite [Re: A.k.a]
    #26558935 - 03/26/20 10:54 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah the cakes are basically just little contained bulk grows already. Brf for the nutrients and verm for water retention. People used to crumble cakes into a flat tray just because they thought more stuff would grow I guess when they were really just stressing the myc since it had to repair itself with no real benefit. Mixing with extra verm would give more water but there are easier ways to do that with a cake


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Re: can i spawn my BRF Cake to bulk with Vermiculite [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26558967 - 03/26/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yes cakes can be spawned to non nutritious substrates such as coir but it's usually done with at least a handful of cakes, there's only around 30g of BRF per 1/2 pint cake. You can have decent results spawning cakes but you'll get faster and more reliable results by fruiting them as cakes. Mushroomnate has spawned enough cskes with good results to prove that it works. But Nate knows how to grow and I don't expect noobs to mimic his results. A bit like the SGFC, you'll have desirable results using it when you know how to grow mushrooms.


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Re: can i spawn my BRF Cake to bulk with Vermiculite [Re: Mateja] * 1
    #26558994 - 03/26/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

cakes are already 2/3's verm just grow your cake out and clone


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