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The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic * 4
    #26558194 - 03/26/20 01:09 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

How many of you have noticed any benefits (or extra benefits) from your mycology hobby since the COVID19 pandemic started?

Because of this hobby I have:

* Well developed sterilisation and sanitation knowledge which helps me minimise my exposure to pathogens;

* A pressure cooker and an autoclave for canning and sterilising;

* Gloves on hand;

* Bleach on hand;

* Isopropyl alcohol on hand;

* The ability to produce my own migraine medication in case there are disruptions to pharmaceutical supplies;

* The ability to produce mushrooms for food (and the ability to turn waste products into mushrooms for food); and

* I can use my spent bulk substrate in the garden to grow more food.


The downside about this pandemic is that it's harder for us to obtain extra gloves and rubbing alcohol at the moment if we're in need.


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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: migraineur] * 1
    #26558230 - 03/26/20 01:47 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Try buying rubbing alcohol in bulk online. I can't imagine that too many people know where to shop for it.

Other benefits:
-microdosing to deal with depression/boredom throughout isolation.
-Discipline and a defined set of daily tasks to keep you busy and focused.
-Should it come to it, it'll always be useful to be able to produce valuable goods for trade if the absolute worst happens.


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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: Ignorantape]
    #26558243 - 03/26/20 02:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I was buying rubbing alcohol in bulk online which was never a problem. I bought some more earlier this month in case there were shortages because of this pandemic and in case people caught on to making their own sanitiser with alcohol. My forethought paid off because now it's in very short supply and it's expensive. Articles started appearing which let people know how they could make their own. People are also re-selling it online and they're price gouging.


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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: migraineur]
    #26558245 - 03/26/20 02:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Damn, that's unfortunate to hear. I've got about for liters of the stuff but it's at my girlfriend's place and she's not talking to me. I've got about half a liter to get my by. I hope it's enough.

Otherwise I guess I can put together a a still, supply myself that way. I guess that's another advantage, we're somewhat more used to making do with what we have on hand.


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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: migraineur] * 1
    #26558253 - 03/26/20 02:27 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Its definitely coming in handy right now!

I have plently of paper towels, Iso alcohol, gloves and disinfectant spray. They only thing i was lacking was hand sanitizer and TP, but no biggie there.

Mushroom Cultivation For Another Win :mushroomgrow: Plus its a great hobby for Shelter-In-Place as well :solidnod:


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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: Ignorantape]
    #26558254 - 03/26/20 02:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I've got about 6 or so litres of the pure stuff which I would dilute to 70%. I also had the same idea of using a still if I were desperate.


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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: migraineur]
    #26558257 - 03/26/20 02:29 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Also, if u run out of food or are in an emergency, u can cook and eat your shroom nutrients like BRF and Wheat or Rye Berries. Mmmmm, tasty :lol:


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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26558304 - 03/26/20 03:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

when everyone is out of a job you can sell mushrooms


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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: viraldrome] * 1
    #26558368 - 03/26/20 05:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm trying to see this time as opportunity for sure.

Quick, while the world is crazy- GROW A BUNCHA SHROOMS!


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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: susurrador] * 1
    #26558369 - 03/26/20 05:09 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm thinking about getting a still to make alcohol. Don't know anything about it though.

Everclear can be used in lieu of iso in a shortage?

I bought 3 fifths of it awhile back to make tincture and never made the tincture.


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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: susurrador]
    #26558390 - 03/26/20 05:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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susurrador said:
I'm thinking about getting a still to make alcohol. Don't know anything about it though.

Everclear can be used in lieu of iso in a shortage?

I bought 3 fifths of it awhile back to make tincture and never made the tincture.




You can easily buy a still online and they're pretty straight forward. Everclear would also work. Dilute it so it's 70% alcohol and you'll give the right ratio for sanitising and you'll get the most bang for your buck.


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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: migraineur]
    #26558392 - 03/26/20 05:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I think it's probably a good investment.

About your handle, do you shroom for migraines?


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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: susurrador] * 1
    #26558462 - 03/26/20 06:27 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I think it's probably a good investment.

About your handle, do you shroom for migraines?




Correct. I started growing shrooms for my chronic migraines when I got my hands on some to try for my migraines and I discovered that they helped me. I owe the Shroomery and Roger Rabbit a huge thanks for all of the information and help. I wonder if he still uses this forum because I thought about sending him a thank you message or creating a public post.

I used to use shrooms exclusively for migraines for years because they were the only thing that worked properly that also didn't put me in hospital with life threatening problems. It wasn't nice having to use them multiple times per week because you're prone to bad trips when you're life is going to shit from chronic pain. However, I was doing the best with what I had at the time and to me it was the choice between growing and using shrooms or suicide. I also wouldn't have finished university at the time if I didn't have shrooms and I probably wouldn't have lasted as long in some jobs I had.

I now use a legal tryptamine (called a triptan) but it took me a while until I found one that worked for me and whose side effects I could handle or, as mentioned, didn't put me in hospital. Two legal psychedelic drugs that I used briefly were egotamine (in the drug Cafergot) and methysergide. Those two drugs aren't so safe though. I still grow my own shrooms  because if my triptan stops working or if there are supply issues then I would be left in an extremely bad situation which I'm not prepared to be in. I've been in such situations before too.

One thing that upsets me is that people in my situation could get into a lot of trouble if we are caught and it's the same for people who suffer from cluster headaches (aka suicide headaches). Doctors wouldn't even help me for years because you are written off as a junkie when you're young, have an invisible illness and you're in pain. There's a lot of discrimination. After some terrible side effects that landed me in hospital multiple times then I was taken seriously and I found some sympathetic doctors. I learnt not to tell them that I was using shrooms though because that gets you written off as some kind of junkie and/or doctor shopper. What's strange is that I ended up being offered strong opioids and other drugs that are addictive and could be abused (and which are also easy to overdose on) but they made my pain and situation worse. The opioids etc. are totally legal too but if I was caught growing and using shrooms (or even cannabis) then I could've faced huge fines, jail, a loss of my assets, job and career as well as social shunning. Oh, and it's also legal to use medical ergotamine, methysergide and ketamine, which can make one high and hallucinate. Docs are also very quick to prescribe anti convulsant meds for pain that can make you depressed and suicidal (look up Topamax for some horror stories) but heaven forbid you use psilocybin for a medical reason.

At least some countries have started to let patients use medical cannabis and there have been trials of psilocybin and MDMA for some conditions, such as PTSD. I'm also lucky not to live in a country with even tougher anti drug laws and which might result in execution (Asia and the Middle East).

Anyway, that's just a tiny overview of my situation. Sorry for the rant and any sidetracked thoughts. I've held a lot of that in for a long time. Feel free to ask any questions should something interest you.


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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: susurrador]
    #26558463 - 03/26/20 06:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I saw a recent thread in mush cult whre a guy made a still using the steam port on his Pressure Cooker. Was pretty damn cool.


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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26558492 - 03/26/20 07:03 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for taking the time to post your story.

I can relate on the migraines. I've had them regularly since I was in 3rd grade. At first it was once a month or so and it progressively got worse as I got older until I was having 2 to 3 a month. Sometimes more.

They start with a dull pressure on either one side of my head or the other. Never both sides. It seems to originate from behind my eyes at times. I've also noticed straining my eyes or getting too much bright sunlight for too long can trigger a migraine. They usually build until I can't even open my eyes and the slightest light or sound is excruciating. I've had to unplug my alarm clock many times before  because the glow from the numbers through my eyelids was too much in the peak of a migraine.

Over the years I've picked up on a lot of what seem to be triggers. The eye straining, being dehydrated, prolonged loud music, stress, booze and busy social scenes or family gatherings have all set me off enough that if any of the above is going on I make sure to have emergency ibuprofen with me.

Out of all the OTC drugs advil or ibuprofen is the only one I get any relief from. Have not seen a doctor about them since my mom has always been familiar with them. 

Worst case scenario if I don't have advil and can't get to sleep, I usually vomit and eventually pass out.

Would not wish them on my worst fucking enemy.

I'm glad to hear you've had success with shrooms to get some relief. I saw a program on tv several years ago about people using them for cluster headaches.

Up until recently I didn't have regular enough access to shrooms to experiment and see if they might help stave the headaches off.

Now that I have shrooms a plenty, I look forward to dosing and keeping a trip and headache journal to see if the application of one shows a reduction in the other. I'd mush rather eat shrooms as a preventative over advil as a treatment of a symptom.

What the hell even causes migraines? Feels like my eyes are overinflated and going to pop sometimes.

Edit. Also meant to ask what kind of regimen you have used with success when you are relying on the shrooms to keep away the headaches.


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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26558497 - 03/26/20 07:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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I saw a recent thread in mush cult whre a guy made a still using the steam port on his Pressure Cooker. Was pretty damn cool.




I was just asking my pops if he thought one could do that.

I'll have to search around unless you have a linkie.


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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: susurrador]
    #26558508 - 03/26/20 07:20 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I get 3 or 4 per week and they can last longer than a day. Triggers for me are booze, sleep deprivation and changes in weather. I think strong smells, such as cigarettes smoke and perfumes trigger them too as I find these smells painful. I occasionally get a migraine with aura and I have no idea what triggers those. It only happens every few years.

I can control my booze and sleep deprivation triggers but I can not control changes in weather or people who wear excessive perfume or who smoke in public. I wish I had access to a large, barometric chamber so that I could experiment.

My pain is often at the front of my head, normally behind an eye. I will become sensitive to light, sound and smells.

Shrooms do not prevent my migraines and they act as an abortive only. I required two size 000 capsules to make sure a migraine was properly aborted. If it wasn't then I have to wait at least 24 hours until I try again.

The people whom I've talked to who take shrooms for cluster headaches can take sub hallucinogenic doses to abort their cluster headaches. For some people the preventative effect might be short but for other it could be long. Experimenting is the only way to find out. One lady on here also had success from LSA. She soaked HBWR seeds in water and then drank the liquid. I believe she induced an episode by drinking alcohol.


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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: susurrador]
    #26558525 - 03/26/20 07:34 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Im having trouble finding it.....im gonna keep looking thou.


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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: susurrador]
    #26558598 - 03/26/20 08:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: The benefits of a mycology hobby during the COVID19 pandemic [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26558878 - 03/26/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

If I were making distilled water then I'd be fine jury rigging something together. However, if I were distilling flammable alcohol then I'd much rather use a professionally made still to avoid setting myself or the house on fire.

I remember reading some posts on a forgotten website from a guy who survived the war in the former Yugoslavia in the 90s. The essence of what he said is that in such times the ability to produce alcohol is very beneficial because it can be used to sanitise things and it can also be used as a currency to trade for other things that one needs.


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