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pur3bind
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Game change 1
#26556832 - 03/25/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Man, this whole Covid-19 is an eye opener for the world, eh?
Ive been thinking about it all.
You know people easily target the Chinese market system and customs as the prime source for the outbreak, but I think we've really missed the bull by a longshot on that one. The other major factor is something governments have been doing for awhile, but haven't followed suit to changing, and that is the mass allowing of immigrants.
Also, Ive done me a number in mental health when as of yesterday I've decided to change my last name to Sean Tighten. It feels so at ease that name. Very tranquil.
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VP123
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Re: Game change [Re: pur3bind] 3
#26556935 - 03/25/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Some people don't waste an opportunity to manifest xenophobia. The numbers indicate tourism, not immigration.
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TheStallionMang
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Re: Game change [Re: VP123]
#26556943 - 03/25/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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exactly...
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Re: Game change [Re: VP123]
#26556949 - 03/25/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Where you resist mass immigration, there tends to still be contact with those attempting to immigrate. Likewise, already immigrated people tend to be in the community and are less likely to be vectors for new disease than people who trade and transport goods across borders, or people who travel and connect at airports.
In an international market, any member of that market is at risk. Any sea, land and airport or open market is going to be the primary hub for disease trading.
One could easily point to the consumption of meat being the cause of pandemic diseases as well, as nearly every pandemic is caused by animals who have historically resisted the viruses and which eventually cross over to humans as a result of captivity or co-location. Domestication of animals comes at a cost. When Europeans came to the Americas they wiped out the native population by and large through smallpox. But smallpox originally came from domesticated cattle, which the natives never had themselves (hence the main reason why novel diseases didn't cross back over to the Europeans, a mix of luck for the Europeans and circumstance from the way each group raised livestock).
I'm neither a vegetarian nor am I necessarily for completely open borders, but there is no boogeyman in all this. International economy and communication is the cause, and it's not going anywhere. Having interconnected networks of billions of people where you're only removed from physical contact by a magnitude of 1 to 3 people tends to have this effect.
It's easier today to catch a disease from someone all the way in China in less than a month's time, than it was for the plague to travel between bordering nations separated by terrain in the 1300's with significantly smaller populations. But why this doesn't change things is this: The benefits of international trade and communication outweigh the benefits of isolation by every metric.
Humans couldn't have practically eradicated smallpox worldwide without international support. It would have flared up over and over again throughout history without international connectivity and the cumulative toll on populations worldwide would have been greater over the course of history. So while international communication and contact is good at spreading disease, you also have to keep in mind that it's good at ending it too.
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pur3bind
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I'd like to say, even though I think you all are mature enough to understand, please stay the fuck home. For everyones sake and your own. I really don't know what medium conditioned and raised my family I'm staying with to think they are higher up than to put their fun hobbies and activities on hold, but it's very selfish and not compassionate to only think of yourself even if you think you won't be much affected if you get Covid as an adolescent. The fact remains we should only be going out to stock on our bare nessesities. If your require any substances or medical coverages then of course you should attend to those needs. Just as best you can stay safe out there friends. I wish you lots of love. And lets remind ourselves lets keep the attitude that we will win against Covid, and we should expect our worst but hope for the best. If we don't have the open heart now to be maturely loving and considerate to all in this time, then if/when catastrophe finds itself closer to what we call our home, we will be ill prepared, and I believe we are better than that. Love
-------------------- "There are times— and this would be a great study for somebody to do—there have been periods in English when there were emotions that don't exist anymore, because the words have been lost. There are colors that don't exist anymore because the words have been lost." — Terence McKenna (The Archaic Revival: 1991)
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Re: Game change [Re: pur3bind] 1
#26598130 - 04/13/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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pur3bind said: I'd like to say, even though I think you all are mature enough to understand, please stay the fuck home. For everyones sake and your own. I really don't know what medium conditioned and raised my family I'm staying with to think they are higher up than to put their fun hobbies and activities on hold, but it's very selfish and not compassionate to only think of yourself even if you think you won't be much affected if you get Covid as an adolescent. The fact remains we should only be going out to stock on our bare nessesities. If your require any substances or medical coverages then of course you should attend to those needs. Just as best you can stay safe out there friends. I wish you lots of love. And lets remind ourselves lets keep the attitude that we will win against Covid, and we should expect our worst but hope for the best. If we don't have the open heart now to be maturely loving and considerate to all in this time, then if/when catastrophe finds itself closer to what we call our home, we will be ill prepared, and I believe we are better than that. Love
pur3bind!!!!!!!
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Hi, can we bump the Mind Vomit thread and have poetry love mind vomit wars of gentle seduction and trippy bliss?
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Edited by The Blind Ass (04/13/20 02:03 PM)
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pur3bind
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Yes, TBA! Oh how I missed you...
Seductive and blissful mind vomit/poetry here if ya'll really want.
Let's make it beautiful, thoughtful,
Ethereal even!
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The Blind Ass
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There can be no other my love.
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Re: Game change [Re: VP123]
#26599348 - 04/14/20 12:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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VP123 said: Some people don't waste an opportunity to manifest xenophobia. The numbers indicate tourism, not immigration.
The Virus is xenophobic
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52245690
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OP IS RACIST!!!
Just kidding I agree 100%. Well put.
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